Mankaar 166 Share Posted May 22, 2014 Sir I never called you Stupid. I said that most peaceful rp takes some time and thought that pvp does not. I am to be called an elitist that wishes to have peace, Then so be it. The community is not Okay. As this server stands now it is a pvp Factions server. with Thankfully a few safe zones. Elitists are not what needs to be cleared out. They try their best and take rp seriously which allows it to move to another very interesting level of role play with people like me are amazed by. People like ZeedusFrostblood getting yelled at for his epic level emotes is not a bad thing. The level of detail some people try to put into this server to make it a better place is amazing. If this is what you wish removed for the common player you need to be removed. We need to set the bar higher and reach for greatness not lower so more people can slide in. This is a Minecraft roleplay server consisting of a variety of roleplay types and forms. Some come for the epic pvp battles, others come for the peaceful roleplay, and some want to experience both. No matter what level of roleplay skill a person has they should not be judged or pestered about why they're here. In one way or another we are all here to have fun. "Not lower so more people can slide in," are you kidding me? what kind of attitude is that? anyone who's decent enough to care should be able to roleplay on this server not be judged by someone being snobby behind a pc. That exact sort of attitude is what turned me off from the server in Asulon-early Anthos and why we were losing so many players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitten 367 Author Share Posted May 22, 2014 I'm gonna be honest, your ignorance makes me want to slap you. RP is not about getting your fantasies off, its about having fun and creating an awesome story. Idgaf about Redstone Mage Smith Man's emotes because the length of your e-peen is not measured by how much word you can make type of in a few minutes. People can put as much detail they want into the server, everyone roleplays at different paces and everyone is different. No one will conform to your idealistic RP Restriction Emote 15 lines **** because its silly and boring. The bar of roleplay does not need to be higher and we don't need to be so ******* elitist. You are a prime example of the exclusive shits who think that because you can type a few lines of text you are ******* Optimus Prime. *drops mic* And this is what I mean, wither or not you mean to, you're actually offending people. We need to back off from this standpoint and actually be more positive towards each other. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primrose 59 Share Posted May 22, 2014 This is a Minecraft roleplay server consisting of a variety of roleplay types and forms. Some come for the epic pvp battles, others come for the peaceful roleplay, and some want to experience both. No matter what level of roleplay skill a person has they should not be judged or pestered about why they're here. In one way or another we are all here to have fun. I agree with you on this point There are many different types of people, and as I stated in my first post they all wish to come here to have fun. Should one party be allowed to attack another party whether "elitist" or not for trying to help better and open the minds of the players to different forms of role play other than smacking each other with pixie swords? I do not try to bring hate here I try to bring understanding and try to teach and help other's learn and grow and become wonderful role players with the mind set of think first attack second. It may be said that some people wish to sit back with their friends and play lotc. Lark I would like to inform you that to the outside world we are all elitists because we took the time and made an app to try out for this server. A game without a challenge is boring and not worth playing to me personally, sure you go on it to have fun and hang with your friends but is the all lotc has to offer to you. Is it really just a minecraft server where you can hang with friends and do stuff, I would think that Lotc has much more to offer the player bace as a role play server and not a pvp factions server with crazy good emoting pulgins. Now that is not to say I do not see where pvp has it's uses, I will say that pvp is the only real way to have a great war, but it doesn't need to be in smaller things, and it 100%ly should not be forced onto people. Lotc I believe where we can have both. the crazy 100 man oren murder force rushing Fenn's gates. BUT I also believe that we would be able to have a place for people who Wish to learn and try role playing someone more peaceful and slow and not be called elitist Scum and attacked all the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crayfishchris 751 Share Posted May 22, 2014 I've been called naïve by many people, considering I just believe that most folks are just kind to start out with. I'm in complete agreement with Teerz. So long as we have fun and just simply talk calmly, and respectfully, everything will be alright. Of course, this is not an ideal community in the least. (You will never find that on the internet, heh.) It's everyone's job to self-regulate, and, when things get tough, a GM like myself must pull out a special kind of hammer . (Luckily, I haven't had to use it too much). What we all need is some optimism, happiness, and some music. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primrose 59 Share Posted May 22, 2014 I'm gonna be honest, your ignorance makes me want to slap you. RP is not about getting your fantasies off, its about having fun and creating an awesome story. Idgaf about Redstone Mage Smith Man's emotes because the length of your e-peen is not measured by how much word you can make type of in a few minutes. People can put as much detail they want into the server, everyone roleplays at different paces and everyone is different. No one will conform to your idealistic RP Restriction Emote 15 lines **** because its silly and boring. The bar of roleplay does not need to be higher and we don't need to be so ******* elitist. You are a prime example of the exclusive shits who think that because you can type a few lines of text you are ******* Optimus Prime. *drops mic* Goes your Story involve half line very miss spelled emotes? The words are what make a story Fellow player. In reference I was simply taking some time to use him as an example to some of the best this server has to offer. As for silly and boring. It is clear my fellow player that you do not like to read a fictional book of how the man before you is going to cut off your head as if told by an epic story teller. We emote our actions to live out the dream "awesome" Stories we can normally only read about in books. With lotc you are really there, right in the action reading as the unedited unfinished story of your character unfolds before you in the words on your screen. I think that is what lotc is all about. Those epic moments in movies when get dissed and then some guy goes "DAMN" That's what I personally feel when I see the quality rp that the best of the server can put out, I try to teach and learn myself wherever my character's story takes her. I really wish you would take a moment and try out the wonderfulness that is peaceful rp. That is the type of rp that Is relaxed and hanging with your friends having fun. Playing a game of chess together. Pick a flower, make some soup for your sick friend and sit with them watching the sun set on the home you built together sipping your ale on a mid summer's night. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aetosion 2062 Share Posted May 22, 2014 The community is no worse than it was last year or the year before. In fact, it's improved. The only change in mentality I've seen is an increase in over-sensitivity. Obviously, there are still trolls and assholes. But they've always been here and always will be. Old ones leave and new ones come in. This. The community has always had its belligerents and its whiners, and they circulate in and out every few months. LotC is an extremely sizable community, and unless staff filtered every applicant based upon their own subjective biases on personality preferences, there will always be conflict. It is natural and a constant both within LotC and out in the real world. It's easy enough to change that. Oren's IC attitude is what Oren chooses it to be, it's not set in stone. Oren's IC attitude is based upon IC reasoning and years of roleplay building up to it, and will not be changed on a whim because someone got their feelings hurt OOCly because their character got killed. That being said, while the new imperial regime is more aggressive, it's also more committed to upholding RP standards in their own actions and those of their subjects. The Emperor holds court and his authorities entertain the questions of nobles in the capital and peasants in the streets. The return to RP focus is, in my opinion, a far more valuable progress than nonviolence or failed attempts at diplomacy. I can not believe you just said that pvp and military rp are the only fun things on the server. Those are the only no fun things about this server. I know I can speak for many people when I say there are /many/ other fun creative rps that you can do other than killing each other. Ok I will admit most of them take people with intelligence to do them but personally I found illusion magic rp along with clerical healing magic rp and you know even Parenting rp to be very fun and rewarding for me oocly and icly. My character adopts and Rises kids so that players that are not the best at rp can learn and work together to become productive and peaceful members of the towns they live in. PVP Is not rp and It should not be on the server. If you want to fight someone by smacking them over the head there is the duel option. If you want to steal something be sneaky about it. Rpply find someone to make you an 'edgy' skin. scout out the target you want to hit. Interact with the locals to see when they are normally online but not home. Then hit them when they are not home. Pay off the local guard to even maybe help you into the home. Who knows. What is enjoyable is purely subjective and will vary greatly from person to person (although many of the same interests will often flock to the same nation or playerbase). I find great fun in politics and policy, while many would eschew such interests as heartless or boring. Reading through your post, I died a little on the inside imaging how deep into depression and self-harm I would likely spiral if I were forced to parent RP kids to be wholesome citizens or perform rudimentary surgeries all day while wearing a hood and speaking in tongues. You have to take into consideration that a large proportion of the server does take pleasure from military rp and pvp, and that makes them and their pursuits no better or worse than yours. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouse 324 Share Posted May 23, 2014 This thread is beginning to sway into a debate about which RP is the way to go. Do that somewhere else. This is a post about bullying. I know it does happen everywhere, and sometimes the best way to deal with it is to just take a break, let it go. Unless the bullying is happening directly to you, I think it's hard to say what someone else should do, when their experience is different. Thats the only fault in this thread. However, if you take a moment to read it over, and then all the replies; it's clear that people do have a good understanding that bullying happens and it is wrong. However, it also looks like people aren't really willing to make a change, or think that nothing can be done. It's the internet..sure..there's a lot of mean people on the internet- but we're also a community. A community with rules, and people who's job is to enforce those rules. There will always be bullies, and those who break rules-- but shouldn't that mean we only crack down harder on them when they do? I don't think the community has improved really. It's constantly changing, and the only thing we can be absolutely sure about is the servers growth. New players take after the server stereotype, and I have seen the server in a much nicer state than it is now. All it takes is the slightest of efforts to make someones day, instead of ruining it. Many of you will hold grudges, righteously or not they do exist. The battles will only continue if you speak them allowed. There would be no need to walk away from being insulted, if the rate of insults thrown between two parties was decreased. Dont you all think that would be nicer? Less ban reports, less arguments, and less fighting between us all? If you don't have something nice to say, don't say it. It's really as simple as that. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhikarta 4064 Share Posted May 23, 2014 This thread is beginning to sway into a debate about which RP is the way to go. Do that somewhere else. This is a post about bullying. I know it does happen everywhere, and sometimes the best way to deal with it is to just take a break, let it go. Unless the bullying is happening directly to you, I think it's hard to say what someone else should do, when their experience is different. Thats the only fault in this thread. However, if you take a moment to read it over, and then all the replies; it's clear that people do have a good understanding that bullying happens and it is wrong. However, it also looks like people aren't really willing to make a change, or think that nothing can be done. It's the internet..sure..there's a lot of mean people on the internet- but we're also a community. A community with rules, and people who's job is to enforce those rules. There will always be bullies, and those who break rules-- but shouldn't that mean we only crack down harder on them when they do? I don't think the community has improved really. It's constantly changing, and the only thing we can be absolutely sure about is the servers growth. New players take after the server stereotype, and I have seen the server in a much nicer state than it is now. All it takes is the slightest of efforts to make someones day, instead of ruining it. Many of you will hold grudges, righteously or not they do exist. The battles will only continue if you speak them allowed. There would be no need to walk away from being insulted, if the rate of insults thrown between two parties was decreased. Dont you all think that would be nicer? Less ban reports, less arguments, and less fighting between us all? If you don't have something nice to say, don't say it. It's really as simple as that. I agree with Sasha here, however, it may sound easy to just leave eachother be and insult everyone less, but it's not that easy at all. I've seen some real pricks on lotc and they are just not willing to stop insulting you untill you feel guilty yourself, untill you feel like it's your fault they are mad at you, this is the problem here. These bullies and assholes on lotc want to make people feel guilty, they want to feel like they are in charge, like they have the power to break someone mentally. These people won't stop untill some serious actions are taken. I hate it when my friends on lotc get harrased/bullied, and I've had those issues aswell. These people feel like they are in charge of us, wich they are not. Some serious actions HAVE to be taken against all of these bullies on lotc, and with serious I mean punishments. I've been harrased here before, even though it was skype, I would call it severe, and nothing happened. I think these cases should be taken way more serious by the staff. But these fights never seem to stop, a person insults you, you insult that person, and it just keeps on going for a looooong time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
firespirit44 1323 Share Posted May 23, 2014 I'm quite disappointed at how people at how people are mud slinging each other. Drop it NatetheGreat237 and Origin_Lark. You two have derailed this thread enough. NatetheGreat237, be more welcoming of other people's form of rp as Aetosian has so calmly pointed out. And you shouldn't be so aggressive, Origin_Lark. That being said, I have a very low tolerance for 1) Cyber bullying 2) Trolls. I dont want people saying "I wont name names." I say name the names, and allow us to enforce the rules as you all so desire. If your friends are banned because of this, know that the staff will always maintain our position as a neutral party, and there was cause for this. I dislike repeating myself. From this point on, anyone who has a complaint about "I have been harassed" and does not name any names, or does not bring it to the attention of GMs will be promptly ignored. We are not omnipresent or the NSA, and text is difficult to decipher at times. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski_king3 0 Share Posted May 23, 2014 I'm quite disappointed at how people at how people are mud slinging each other. Drop it NatetheGreat237 and Origin_Lark. You two have derailed this thread enough. NatetheGreat237, be more welcoming of other people's form of rp as Aetosian has so calmly pointed out. And you shouldn't be so aggressive, Origin_Lark. That being said, I have a very low tolerance for 1) Cyber bullying 2) Trolls. I dont want people saying "I wont name names." I say name the names, and allow us to enforce the rules as you all so desire. If your friends are banned because of this, know that the staff will always maintain our position as a neutral party, and there was cause for this. I dislike repeating myself. From this point on, anyone who has a complaint about "I have been harassed" and does not name any names, or does not bring it to the attention of GMs will be promptly ignored. We are not omnipresent or the NSA, and text is difficult to decipher at times. You tell em Kai! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lark 2227 Share Posted May 23, 2014 I'm quite disappointed at how people at how people are mud slinging each other. Drop it NatetheGreat237 and Origin_Lark. You two have derailed this thread enough. NatetheGreat237, be more welcoming of other people's form of rp as Aetosian has so calmly pointed out. And you shouldn't be so aggressive, Origin_Lark. That being said, I have a very low tolerance for 1) Cyber bullying 2) Trolls. I dont want people saying "I wont name names." I say name the names, and allow us to enforce the rules as you all so desire. If your friends are banned because of this, know that the staff will always maintain our position as a neutral party, and there was cause for this. I dislike repeating myself. From this point on, anyone who has a complaint about "I have been harassed" and does not name any names, or does not bring it to the attention of GMs will be promptly ignored. We are not omnipresent or the NSA, and text is difficult to decipher at times. My apologies to people on thread, Nate, and Kai for being aggressive. reading over, I went overboard and got off topic... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zezimus 1523 Share Posted May 23, 2014 I don't believe cyber bullying is really a thing that can be used to describe insults towards people on LotC, essentially for the same reasons that Aislin stated. However, I have noticed the surge of a sort of passive aggressive type of attitude as of late. Different groups of players seem to find trouble relating to and therefore communicating with one another at times. I think this could simply be solved if people stopped taking LotC as seriously as they do. It's a game after all and each and every one of us is supposed to be here to enjoy it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WuHanXianShi14 0 Share Posted May 23, 2014 There are plenty of non pvp related activities on lotc that can be fun...it just takes this thing called creativity and imagination Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aryon 679 Share Posted May 24, 2014 danny touched me here and here But seriously guys, at the end of the day this Server is here for your enjoyment. As hard as it may seem, you can generally just ignore people and if worst comes to worst block them (if the server still has that feature?) I know that's what you have heard from teachers your whole life, but if there is no reaction then people generally get bored. Or if worst comes to worst, take a swing. But pretty much these threads do nothing (and my post won't either) so its generally better to just chill through the game and party hard. Remember, pop a molly, drink some orange, get higher. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helbolt 129 Share Posted May 24, 2014 I am sorry to anyone I have offended ooc. Me no like available smiley, so you get this smiley.... >=D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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