E__V__O 2000 Share Posted May 23, 2014 If it is alright with everyone that I express my opinions here? I hope that my words don't come under a flame or to be considered trolley or anything at the sorts. Though I might be a bit miss-informed!, please forgive me!. --- With the Elven sub-forums on how it was spoken before I will list my expressions. --- The Elven nation as a whole consists of- The High Elves, Wood Elves and Dark Elves. They are consist though the leading nation is the high elves currently. They express themselves throughout each-other and protect the following nations that are below them. The Wood and Dark elves need to follow the correct laws and rules set out for them to stay within the high elven nation grounds set for protection and peace. As a whole they have a collective large player base though have a set no nation leader that follows- if they did it would be someone within the high elves. Meaning that the Wood Elves and Dark Elves are not independent in themselves or should be considered to have a sub-forum of their own. I would think they would rather have a sub-forum in the high elven forums even than the dark elves and wood elves living in almost the same district it almost doesn't need a sub forum at all or even a main forum for these two sub-races as they can be linked to headteacher and be under the high elven main forum considered to be "Elven Districts". --- Now to list for the last lot of elves, the snow elves. The snow elves are independent on their own far from the elven nation consisting of those listed above. Though the princedom of Fenn or Snow Elves have own cultures running through it and traditions unlike the other elven groups stated above. Having a own city, leader and independence throughout the time on the server whilst they might not have a collective player base of the high elves with the two groups under them, they are still consisting of a player base of twenty players. I would consider them either getting a nation sub-forum for them own as the high elves are getting, as they are not apart of them but still have a player base. - Though saying that the Princedom of Fenn doesn't have a large player-base to get a forum, I can list back in the days of the Orcs consisting of less than 10 orcs. Running a dry spree yet kept forum page to themselves and posted- gathered members and became what they are not consisting of a larger player-base, wouldn't it be recommended if the Princedom of Fenn(Snow Elves) get the own forum is well if this is the case all around? - Though it brings reason to why the elven nation leader did not list the snow elves being under the elven government, since they are not. The Snow Elves are independent and have the own nation as they claim up and running and working perfectly fine as with gathering new players. If you spoken to all nation leaders, please consider the princedom of Fenn a nation for themselves is well. If you claim that they cannot proclaim themselves as a nation, look at Alras- when it began it was small and grew and rose with the correct choices in factor. Now it is as big as it is now yet still a proclaimed nation. The Princedom of Fenn has done this, and even the high elves when they first separated from the elven nation classifying as Malinor. -- I hope you have read through my comments and feel that I was not bias through this but explaining things that have happened and my personal thoughts, thank you for reading. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supremacy 3361 Share Posted May 23, 2014 Don't hate on Rittsy for the changes. If you want to hate on someone for the elven forums, pick me. As for the largest player base of elves being snow elves? The survey results showed the largest settlement of elves is Tahn'siol, by a large margin. High elves were deliberately told not to post on the survey because I knew at the time they were the most populous (they likely still are). While the snow elves were active, they were not significantly more active than any individual subrace to warrant them being favoured over a recognised Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
E__V__O 2000 Share Posted May 23, 2014 Kalenz or Supre(man) from my post I don't think it had hate in it (if you are referring towards it) though in my post I suggested things of all the elven holds in complete area- What would you consider it being by? (- Though I said that the Fenn had a population it does not compare to the population of elves as a whole that live under the high elven territory -) I did (or hope) I listed constructive things and didn't point fingers to anyone though... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frigated 66 Share Posted May 23, 2014 It is needed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickando 3967 Share Posted May 23, 2014 I should think there's no reason to force an independent entity away from the rest of the Elves to post in the common Elf forum while all that would happen is an attraction of trolly posts and clogging of that forum with government actions. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanrahan 2983 Share Posted May 23, 2014 I'm so happy to be un-affilated right now.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
E__V__O 2000 Share Posted May 23, 2014 I should think there's no reason to force an independent entity away from the rest of the Elves to post in the common Elf forum while all that would happen is an attraction of trolly posts and clogging of that forum with government actions. The thing being as I stated in my previous comment, is that the elves are, high elves, dark elves and wood elves all in one territory as a nation. Whilst the Snow Elves are with themselves with a decent player-base having different things from the other classified elves. Just my thing I would say- The High elves get a fourm and than the Wood and Dark elves have a sub-forum in the high elves forum. As with the Princedom of Fenn having the own forum in the elven role play section as the others. Whilst this I wouldn't see why the collective of wood and dark elves need the own forum as they are atight together in a district so one sub-forum for them together unless they separate. Only making logical sense here- though again I stated it better in my previous post if you would be kind to read it. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smithers 388 Share Posted May 23, 2014 The decision for the Elven forums was made based upon official sub-racial entities. Regardless of whether or not you play your snow elven culture as an actual sub race (what with the whole 'icy touch' thing), the snow elves are not a sub-racial entity and are only an Elven culture. The sub-forum is out of place. There were other self-proclaimed Elven nations and there are even more Elven cultures, but they didn't receive a sub-forum for a reason. Permitting a nation sub-forum to exist does not fit into the scheme of how the Elven sub-forums are set up and, thus, the 'Princedom of Fenn' sub-forum should not exist. Post in the main Elven forum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
E__V__O 2000 Share Posted May 23, 2014 Smithers, what I was suggesting as the princedom of fenn is not apart of the elves. So they should not be considered under that forum. If you read I validated the points in my previous posts. - Besides, this they might been seen as a culture, if you think of it. All the other elven sub-races are is well. Or they would be considered equal and whole. The Snow Elves have different culture and everything so in turn they can be considered a sub-race through this measures. As with them proclaiming themselves as a independent nation- it should be considered to speak to them as they are not apart of the elven government anymore. Besides them having over twenty active members it is more than some sub-races or races currently. Only difference is, the fenn are separated and the others are grouped. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jistuma 1996 Share Posted May 23, 2014 Why is there Applications under Kharajyr? Then don't have them anymore. Why not make "Other races" instead of Karajyr and halfling? And also place Adunians in it? Like Other races Halflings Karajyr Adunians Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archbishop 1784 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Cause jistuma, there is no such race as a "Karajyr." We are a race just as you are, we deserve our own forum come 4.0 and now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lasacow 75 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Don't remove Laws and Legislation of Oren. Just... Just don't... It pretty much keeps everything organised and is an extremely useful sub-forum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski_king3 0 Share Posted May 27, 2014 The thing being as I stated in my previous comment, is that the elves are, high elves, dark elves and wood elves all in one territory as a nation. Whilst the Snow Elves are with themselves with a decent player-base having different things from the other classified elves. Just my thing I would say- The High elves get a fourm and than the Wood and Dark elves have a sub-forum in the high elves forum. As with the Princedom of Fenn having the own forum in the elven role play section as the others. Whilst this I wouldn't see why the collective of wood and dark elves need the own forum as they are atight together in a district so one sub-forum for them together unless they separate. Only making logical sense here- though again I stated it better in my previous post if you would be kind to read it. This was pretty much my thought. Even though they're not an official sub-race, the sub-forums are typically needed for ease of organization. It makes a lot more sense in terms of organization for the snow elves to have their own sub-forum and the high/dark/wood elven nation to have its own sub-forum, rather than the three official sub-races having their own sub-forum. Otherwise, snow elves will likely end up wanting several of their more important posts pinned to the elven sub-forum so as not to be lost in the posting of general elven threads, leading to more clutter in the main elven sub-forum. Hopefully I'm being clear, but basically I feel like this attempt to remove clutter will create more clutter, and will lead to people getting upset. I don't think there's a lot of reason to change how the sub-forums are set up now. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
E__V__O 2000 Share Posted May 28, 2014 This was pretty much my thought. Even though they're not an official sub-race, the sub-forums are typically needed for ease of organization. It makes a lot more sense in terms of organization for the snow elves to have their own sub-forum and the high/dark/wood elven nation to have its own sub-forum, rather than the three official sub-races having their own sub-forum. Otherwise, snow elves will likely end up wanting several of their more important posts pinned to the elven sub-forum so as not to be lost in the posting of general elven threads, leading to more clutter in the main elven sub-forum. Hopefully I'm being clear, but basically I feel like this attempt to remove clutter will create more clutter, and will lead to people getting upset. I don't think there's a lot of reason to change how the sub-forums are set up now. Indeed, I agree with you on everything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrakeHaze. 2524 Share Posted May 29, 2014 I am the Rex of the Orcs, whatchu mean Orcs don't have a leader? o.o Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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