MA Additions

[Tsuyose 3285]

Hello denizens of LoTC,

 

Recently I have inducted three new members to the MAT, more specifically, Legocrazy, Mephistophelian, and _Elad_ each well versed in their own section. Saying this, Birdwhisperer unfortunately departed from the team.  

 

With the recent influx of students and the like the MAT has found it appropriate to limit the amount of students a single teacher takes in at any one time, and that is five primarily because, we want to ensure the students are being taught well. The possibility of a singular teacher attaining five is minimalistic although, we, as a team, find that restricting the magical roleplayers of the community to be in poor taste.

 

Self-teaching magic will be reinstated under the premises that certain magic's will not be self-teachable. Self-teaching is only plausible when the character learns the ins and outs of the magical subtype, as well as overarching principles of the archetype.This includes the following:

 

Magic's that can not be self-taught:

 

Paladinism

Druidism

Muun'trivazja

Clerical

Shamanism

Arcanism

Voidal Shifting

Mental Magic

Runesmithing

Golemancy

Shade

Necromancy

Frost Witch

Fi’hiran’tanya

Soul Puppetry

Mysticism.

Blood Magic

 

 

Magic that can be self-taught:

 

Transfiguration.

Telekinesis.

Voidal Translocation.

Elemental Evocations (All)

Conjuration.

Sensory Illusion.

Cognitism.

 

 

Despite this, the user must send weekly screenshots of the user practising their magic until said MAT member finds that the player/character has sufficient knowledge/practice in said subtype. This ensures that specific magic's can be re-opened instead of sitting there, stagnant, and provides ample opportunity for other players to experience the magical side of LoTC.

 

In the upcoming month I, and the rest of the team will be revising the current set of rules (prior to the recently established.) Anyone who has a concern, complaint, or otherwise suggestion to the current set of rules is welcome to post below.

[_mkkk_ 194]

Where does mental magic fall on there. . . I dont see it.

[WuHanXianShi14 0]

Despite this, the user must send weekly screenshots of the user practising their magic until said MAT member finds that the player/character has sufficient knowledge/practice in said subtype.

 

I thought we were assured that the MAT would be a simpler organization than the old MAT, purely existing for documentation purposes, and when necessary, blacklisting. Where did all this rigourous moderation and weekly screenshot come from? Seems like we're getting closer and closer to the old days of super control, which is something we were told would not happen.

[GodEmperorFlam 3447]

I don't understand why Transfiguration is allowed to be self-taught, it it one of the most complex voidal magics since it encompasses wards, abjurations, enchantments, and alteration.

[Tsuyose 3285]

To ensure the player is doing the magic correctly. It isn't much to ask, to be fair. I wouldn't want to see players who've self-taught their magic to run around doing it incorrectly, it would only give a poor image to self-teaching.

[1 1393]

Couldn't someone trying to self teach shifting end up getting lost in the void..?

 

EDIT: Well I guess that was changed rather quickly...

 

[WuHanXianShi14 0]

1 minute ago, Tsuyose said:

To ensure the player is doing the magic correctly. It isn't much to ask, to be fair. I wouldn't want to see players who've self-taught their magic to run around doing it incorrectly, it would only give a poor image to self-teaching.

You are enforcing a rule which effects the whole, on the theoretical actions of a select few.

The blacklist system exists to deal with powergamers should they appear. Making all self taught students go through this OOC process before they can RP out their magic is over-reaching in my eyes.

[Gone 869]

Personally I'm hoping to see the occasional death/mutilation from trying to self teach some of these. 
Particularly shifting. 

[Dohvi 622]

Last time people could self-teach illusion, the reputation of the entire magic got trashed by people who didn't know how to RP it. 

 

And last time, the MAT recognised that Transfiguration was too complicated to be self-taught.

[Delmodan 855]

With the rule on the screenshots, I really do not think it is that much to ask to simply screenshot an emote and send it in. As well it states until the MAT member deems the person fine. Which I assume wouldn't be that long. If it is truly difficult to type out more than one or two accurate emotes for a magic, it is probably best that person not learn the art. I really only see this as ensuring one knows the magic instead of them getting a SA, not be seen for awhile then suddenly do something that is deemed powergaming and blacklisted for it. This way, the MAT member can help them along the way of being a better RPer and knowing the magic fully. 

 I would re-look at some of the magics that are allowed self-teaching like others said and maybe discuss it some on whether or not it would be suited there or in the non self-teaching section.

[Aelu / Rel (Combustionary) 1540]

I'm not a fan of illusion and transfiguration being self-teachable. Both of them quite wide in scope and I think they'd raise issue being self-taught.

 

That said, I like this.

[AGP 3169]

I agree with several of my friendos above. Illusion is one of the hardest magics to understand and RP properly from an OOC perspective, and transfiguration is one of the hardest magics to understand properly from an IC perspective. I would like to see both of these magics moved to the no fly zone for self teaching. I would also like to see the weekly screenshot requirement to be lifted. This accomplishes nothing. People who already understand how to Rp magic will already know how to Rp magic, and having them send in screenshots for proof will be a waste of the MAT and the magic user's time. People who don't understand how to Rp magic will not understand how to Rp magic, and therefore unless the MAT teaches them how to Rp magic (which I doubt), then they might as well just get their self teaching app denied until they know what to do. I think it would be much smarter to require proof of how to RP the magic type on the self-taught application itself in a set format, such as what are the red lines, what you can/can't do, what a good t4 emote looks like, what the magic actually DOES, etc. Up to the MAT to come up with the specific application format. I am fine with a limit on the amount of people you can teach at once, though I think it is unnecessary as I doubt anyone is teaching 5 people at once. I would like to see a removal of the 5 magics per person limit, as well as the funky 'one tier 5, two tier 4' etc. limitations. Those overstep the boundaries of the MAT's pvrpose, in my opinion.

[_mkkk_ 194]

As others have said, having illusion up there is an extremely big issue. Illusion is very easy to powergame if not properly instructed by a teacher how to use things like phantasms and the characteristics of figments and glamours. 

[Rassidic 470]

Personally, I'd deem the only subtype that can be /initally/ self-taught is an Elemental Evocation. Once the person has been self-taught with that magical type, it could be assumed that with enough practise, the rest could be learnt that are currently on there.
 

This idea would mean that instead of the very complex magic types being overfilled with self-taught, the elemental magics with possible the most teachers and students are filled, leading to the idea that these magics are perhaps the easiest to grasp onto. After all, the elements are all around the world- you'll rarely find someone using Transfiguration so openly.

[E__V__O 2000]

I think you're all missing the big point here... Having these self - taught things means weekly screenshots or screenshots of each time they use the magic (Probally until T3). If they powergame or don't RP it correctly they will be revoked or taught how to do it correctly. It's that simple. Easy to understand.

 

I like these changes. +1 to the MAT