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  1. 1. Do you think staff logs pertaining to rule changes, new map decisions and of major server changes should be made available to the public?

    • Yes
      55
    • No
      15
    • Other (comment)
      1
  2. 2. Do you think staff logs pertaining to major roleplay outcomes such as coupe rulings, warclaim acceptances/declination and others should be made available to the public?

    • Yes
      49
    • No
      21
    • Other (comment)
      1
  3. 3. Do you think staff logs pertaining to bans should be made available to the public?

    • Yes
      45
    • No
      23
    • Other (comment)
      3
  4. 4. Do you think staff logs pertaining to the distribution of artefacts and magics should be made available to the public?

    • Yes
      37
    • No
      30
    • Other (comment)
      4
  5. 5. Overall, would you say you approve of this idea?

    • Yes
      42
    • Yes, but it needs to be developed further or changes made
      10
    • No, but I would if it were developed further or changes were made
      5
    • No
      14


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8 minutes ago, ski_king3 said:

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There have been and are currently a ton of players banned for harassment. There seems to be an air of mistrust between some staff members and the rest of the community; your statement only proves that needs to be amended somehow. This could be a positive step forward in that direction. It's better to allow people to state their opinions before sufficient changes are made to the server. I'm speaking mostly in regards to the first two questions of the poll.

 

9 minutes ago, ski_king3 said:

The playerbase isn't ignored to begin with

Certainly no one can be ignored if they don't get to voice their opinion in the first place.

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You state your personal opinions against other teams then make a poll to try and validate your claims along with an idea of transparency when you haven't  consulted the teams to which you claim show bias and non-transparency against?  Interesting. 

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While nice in theory, won't work. I would still like to see significantly more staff justification and accountability for their decisions in future though, it's sorely lacking.

 

Edit: There is also a sort of inequality currently in how staff can act (punitively, making changes, etc.) without publishing anything, while then the players need to compose public responses to appeal. This needs to be addressed. If players are required to be transparent, the same should apply to the staff.

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6 hours ago, Shalashask said:

anyone who takes a staff position should be accountable for their actions, and if they are not prepared to defend their actions to the public then they should not be staff.

This.

 

I wholeheartedly agree with staff transparency, and I believe it could do plenty of good if used correctly. An important question, would this effect bans in which the accused is refused access to the evidence banning them? I believe it is absolute ridiculous for that to occur, and that anyone and everyone deserves the right to understand why they are being banned. I've never been a personal victim of this, but I do know of at least one other person that this happened to, and possibly another though I'm not sure what the outcome of that ban was.

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1 hour ago, Delmodan said:

You state your personal opinions against other teams

Would you mind quoting me where I've done this? And I apologise for not consulting the LMs before hand, I was a bit confused about the scope of projects and thought that a public thread where anyone can voice their opinion would be best to start one off.


From seeing past GMs comments about harassment while making ban verdicts I agree that it probably is best to keep it anonymous in most cases. I've been quit naive about how bad the harassment has been in the past. I've also taken on board what staff have been saying about this forcing them to tip-toe and change their wording if this was implemented. I'm gonna keep this poll up and see how it ends up looking in a weeks time. As I said in the first paragraph this was just an idea, from just my hand, and the concerns brought forward have shown that it will need to be heavily changed if it were to be implemented. My end goal was just to increase the transparency between staff and players, not make staff feel unsafe about being them self. 

 

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I'll speak from an FM perspective on this.

 

This is complicated, and I will say that I believe that staff let's say the FM team in particular don't need to be transparent because that's the wrong word. With actions such as forum rule changes and forum appeal format changes we need to explain our actions. For example when we lock a topic that's causing arguments we generally comment on the topic saying something along the lines of; This topic has now been locked due to instigating and it's devolved into pointless bickering.

 

What angers people is that they see situations as we're the parents who always get our way with the excuse, "Because I said so." Now obviously we don't do our jobs completely as individuals. We discuss, we re-read, we evaluate each other's work. Our actions will be justified in one way or another but sometimes not everyone will see it the same way. Sometimes we just need to be open to discussing rather than stomping our foot.

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That moment when a Your View gets put up by a Trial GM without consulting any of the GM Management on something that is highly controversial hmm hmm

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If theres no bias to there decisions then theres no reason we shouldn't see it..

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4 hours ago, Chorale_ said:

I think that non-staff players have absolutely no business snooping their noses around in staff affairs. Period. That's all that i'm saying on the matter, don't try and counter it just to argue with me, please and thank you.

 

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lol

3 hours ago, Delmodan said:

You state your personal opinions against other teams then make a poll to try and validate your claims along with an idea of transparency when you haven't  consulted the teams to which you claim show bias and non-transparency against?  Interesting. 

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come on mate everyone knows magic/lore team are biased, lazy and less effective than the wiki team

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