THE UNOFFICIAL BRING BACK NEXUS POOL

[zaezae 1098]

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Competent factions will become absolutely autonomous while normal players won't stand a chance because they'll have a smaller array of people to chose from.

That's the point. If you want a real economy and not just a special pvp buffs that is. 

 

No-life having folk will game any economic system. If people are willing to buy alts for an advantage, they're also willing to grind them out. Which ironically, grinding rewards no-life having play styles. 

 

I mean you keep going on this about "renown". What renown? Oh you mean doing the same thing over and over again to pump those numbers higher and higher. Those numbers that make people not want to PK, which from what I understand, you would like to see more of. Those numbers that put new players at a forever disadvantage. Those numbers that aren't even fun to inflate. Grinding is fundamentally unfun. That's what made nexus unfun. That's what got nexus removed in part. 

 

Besides, the only reason why the 'economy' of nexus even existed was that even though the production values of players was sky high, grinding is such a stupid resource black hole that it could effectively create an illusion of an economy. However, an economy covers all player activity while Nexus only gave value to things that were in service of PVP. A true economy would have every meaningful resource have intrinsic value simply because it was limited. 

 

The part that I think I forgot to mention is that the energy limits on players would have to be pretty severe. If you want real intrinsic value in supplies then you have to make it scarce. Wood shouldn't only have value because some dude wants to make over a thousand shovels that he intends on only throwing into a fire just so he can push some OOC numbers up and say that he's a master woodworker because just look at how big my numbers are! Wood should be valuable because there's only so much of it. Iron should be valuable because there isn't that much of it and finding more is difficult. Armor should be valuable because ye-olde blacksmith man can only hammer out one per day. And what happens when a map starts to get old? What we're just going to have half of the characters super elite blacksmiths? The system is unsustainable unless you start arbitrarily start either taking away people's xp or suddenly raise the grind cealing further just to kick-start the grind competition off again. 

 

Grinding is a bad system, doesn't make RP sense in the slightest, it's boring to take part in, and the only thing that it really leads to is creating a small class of elite crafters. 

 

I mean, is the only form of competition you want is to be who can grind the hardest? Do you actually find that fun to take part in?

 

Also, that server, which was chronicles of something-or-another, peaked at 40-50 players at a time. Mostly adults who were strong roleplayers, better than I was at the very least. Still managed to have 3 or 4 companies with a handful of actual employees. 

 

Also, even if what I am suggesting won't create the economy that you want, or something that we all think isn't gud, it'll still be better than any system that is based off of grinding numbers. No-nexus is better than nexus with grinding. Period. 

 

and I'm sorry if I sound salty but I just have no sympathy for people's desires to be the mechanical best on a god damn rp server. I've played on RPG type servers that try to also have RP. They all suck ****. 

[GodEmperorFlam 3447]

nexus isn't coming back lmao - official admin response

[Man of Respect 5471]

2 minutes ago, FlamboyantRage said:

nexus isn't coming back lmao - official admin response

 

 

I want to make it known that three people do not care about the opinion of around fifty percent out of a hundred people. Please... formulate a proper response.

[Eurielle 1189]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_democracy

[GodEmperorFlam 3447]

1 minute ago, Man of Respect said:

 

 

I want to make it known that three people do not care about the opinion of around fifty percent out of a hundred people. Please... formulate a proper response.

 

And nearly 40% of people do not want it, based on this forum poll. Not to mention the devs have stated multiple times that it is not coming back and I wouldn't force them to bring it. It's not coming back, nice try though. Things that were part of nexus are being worked on, such as food stuff and brewing, they are just being updated for 1.13 as far as I know. That's about as close as we'll get to nexus, as far as I know. 

[Man of Respect 5471]

2 minutes ago, FlamboyantRage said:

 

And nearly 40% of people do not want it, based on this forum poll. Not to mention the devs have stated multiple times that it is not coming back and I wouldn't force them to bring it. It's not coming back, nice try though. Things that were part of nexus are being worked on, such as food stuff and brewing, they are just being updated for 1.13 as far as I know. That's about as close as we'll get to nexus, as far as I know. 

 

Alright, what the plans and ideas for creating an immersive economy in order that it does not becomes an absolute disaster then? The economy team was a huge failure.

[Eurielle 1189]

2 minutes ago, Man of Respect said:

Alright, what the plans and ideas for creating an immersive economy in order that it does not becomes an absolute disaster then? The economy team was a huge failure.

Resource nodes soon tm

[zaezae 1098]

3 minutes ago, Dunstan said:

Resource nodes soon tm

So basically resource island except not on an island?

[Eurielle 1189]

3 minutes ago, zaezae said:

So basically resource island except not on an island?

No!

 

[Kaiser 2347]

Nexus gave me such a headache. Not even against it being gone completely, but it needs a rework. I don't play LoTC like an MMO or some other large RPG where I have to put in stupid amounts of work to get simple tasks done. I'd go play another game for that experience. But Nexus fails due to three reasons, at least for what I know: Grind, Blobbing, Rewards.

 

Grind: It's the issue most people kind of think of originally. Half the ways you leveled up on Nexus was grinding stupidly menial tasks.Turn buckets into butter, craft 300k chainmail boots, automine for 9 days, etc. It wasn't fun, or challenging, or varied, it was just blatant time sinks. This is also why I call bs on the 'player retention'. Candy crush has stupidly high player retention, but that doesn't mean we should emmulate it's game style.

Blobbing: Bigger groups do better, period. That's fine, it encourages people to join groups - But the underside is that groups are blobbing just to be able to build, or survive around Nexus, and they're not joining to actually RP, or because they have specific interesting ideas. It's why PVP goons and big nations want Nexus, they don't have to worry about anything because they have everything (and enough people) needed to not worry about it. I wouldn't care, but that specifically hurts new folks. This is basically the age old 'Clan vs solo' argument, and I'd argue we shouldn't give major power like crafting items efficiently to mega-clans.

Rewards: What rewards did you get from nexus? Nothing of actual use. PVP items, har har, goes into my 'blobbing' point, and just allowed bigger mega-groups to dominate smaller groups -- Which again flips the table from regular RP of larger nations fighting smaller ones into 'Big nation bullies newbies with +9 attack swords'. Potions? Meh, why can't we have an alchemy/food plugin without nexus? What was so unique to nexus's crafting that can't be replicated elsewhere?

All and all it's crap, and I've never been happier than the day it was removed and I could craft a shovel with 1 cobble and  sticks instead of waiting 25 minutes to gather the materials.

[Jakraes 51]

I just want the custom food items back ?

[HardstyleRaver2 56]

Nexus was cancer and should never be back. Since it wasn't vanilla, it scared away new players because they didn't understand it.

[winterblessing 1800]

3 hours ago, NotEvilAtAll said:

Jesus Christ how many people did you ping in order to get them to rep your post

Not a single one. I just got off of work.

[Sky 0]

I just want something to do on the server during off-peak hours.

[_Elrith_ 4525]

50 minutes ago, Lumiin said:

4 hours ago, NotEvilAtAll said:

Jesus Christ how many people did you ping in order to get them to rep your post

Not a single one. I just got off of work.

I can 100% confirm that Lumiin did not ping me. As a player who had the highest experience in Alchemy(2million), I can say that I definitely loved Nexus Alchemy. Nexus Alchemy basically created my RP, being an alchemist RPer who actually read the forums and understood how alchemy worked, I applied it Nexus, because Nexus wasn't an entirely accurate representation of alchemy but it was good enough. I loved being able to craft potions and give them to people. The only problem was that people sometimes did not properly know how to RP the potions, but that can easily be remedied by having accurate descriptions for potions and/or forum links in them.