The State of LOTC

[Werew0lf 24180]

Just now, the craft of the lord said:

the lore for canonism is okay and does enough to deviate it from regular catholicism. the implementation onto the server itself and how it is roleplayed is a poor imitation of catholicism tbh. there should be room for other religions and heresies to grow and thrive, but it seems that the status quo is "canonism is correct and the true faith" and this is shovelled down your throats by many human roleplayers.

 

@Werew0lfyour character doesn't help this by being a literal Aengul and I would like to see him binned

 

so we're still agreeing im a real aengul right?

[the GOAT of the craft 606]

Just now, Werew0lf said:

 

so we're still agreeing im a real aengul right?

 

yeah man and it's a fat L

[Yeetboy0206 1574]

2 minutes ago, Werew0lf said:

 

so we're still agreeing im a real aengul right?

Gonna be real...OOCly not really, and IRPly some people have been doubting it since before the Robertine Crusade, I've honestly just agreed with another opinion I learned IRPly that Raguel's just a demi-djinn playing at being Aengul, but his behavior has not really matched that of the norm. Not sure if this is a joke or not, so take it with a grain of salt and don't just say I have an L-mindset please. Thank you.

Edited April 9, 2025 by Ryfin Chany
Clarification

[Xein000 264]

 Maybe we need an aengul to defend the people?

[Pancho 4197]

4 minutes ago, Werew0lf said:

 

so we're still agreeing im a real aengul right?

Your djinn will never be more of an aengul like xan will be of order

[Yeetboy0206 1574]

Just now, Xein000 said:

 Maybe we need an aengul to defend the people?

Honestly, yeah. Raguel can work, but he needs a foil so that he doesn't just get his way all the time. Think about it, when has Raguel ever seemed like anything more than an unstoppable force of nature that no one can compete against?

[Werew0lf 24180]

2 minutes ago, Ryfin Chany said:

Gonna be real...OOCly not really, and IRPly some people have been doubting it since before the Robertine Crusade, I've honestly just agreed with another opinion I learned IRPly that Raguel's just a demi-djinn playing at being Aengul, but his behavior has not really matched that of the norm. Not sure if this is a joke or not, so take it with a grain of salt and don't just say I have an L-mindset please. Thank you.

 

What is a Djinn? 

 

Sorry Yeetboy, it will not happen again. You do not have an L-mindset, I do. 🙏

[argonian 14254]

17 minutes ago, TysCreations said:

Unlike loxy I don't have the best of ability to put my feelings into words or express what I mean expecially through text but when a good part of the community is constantly battered and bullied out of the map its NOT fun, especially for newer players, ik that politics are politics but when a whole community of people CRY OUT because of it something HAS to be done.

 

servers like this are supposed to be as fun as possible for EVERYONE not just a very specific group of people. Many of the places we put effort and time and love in are gone and yes as loxy said places rise and fall but 8 nations gone in just over a year is not sustainable,  not for how much starting a nation costs and even if we are able to start up a nation, with how one sided the server has become they will be squashed if they don't align with that nations ideals. Isn't making a nation because of different options the whole point?

 

Yes, it's realistic as loxy said but no, it's NOT FUN. The east, the Midlands and the heartlands have been steamrolled, that's not realistic nor fun. Especially when these wars are spured on by the same two groups over and over and over again, vikela, dunwen, lurin, vortice, aaun, cnor, hyspia, haenese, rinemar and now soon to be balian too, gone in just over 1 year by the same 2 major groups and seemingly more are to go. This server was once so diverse but now its one congealed mess.

 

Please, something has to be done. The sentiment 'rp is rp' will kill this server eventually if nothing is done. Please. 

Hyspia and Reinmar didn't go anywhere. They just became vassals. Haense was offered vassalisation and refused, but most of their vassals are keeping their titles AFAIK. Also Haense has started plenty of wars itself - it's not like one of these magic towns who just wanted to sit in splendid isolation from the world, which is the kind of place I assume you mean when you talk about Human Canonist countries destroying hubs for unique RP (Haense being a Human Canonist nation btw, same with Hyspia, Reinmar and Aaun).

 

Anyway that's all besides the point. A year is actually a very long amount of time - people shouldn't grow old waiting for things to actually happen on this server. A few nations/settlements dying per year is fine. What isn't fine, and I agree with you here, is how hard it is to make a new nation/settlement. The current set of rules was made at a time when we had a load of little groups and very little impactful warfare. People were complaining about an unending bloat of nations - that time has clearly passed so the rules should be loosened.

 

8 minutes ago, PrimnyaQuorum said:

I was told recently that if you, a RO/PRO OOCly grant a dark faction permissions to be on your land - not IRPly, but OOCly - to promote conflict and a narrative with them, you will be held directly responsible both IRPly and OOCly for this entirely OOC choice [let's not pretend the region system is a IRP thing] and can thus be WC'd freely. I feel like this is just a good example of how OOC mindset stuff goes, and how certain rules and systems suffocate RP. 

If this is true then that should pretty clearly fall under metagaming and be reported. That said, granting OOC permission for people to be on your land is one thing - but it becomes RP when you become RPly aware of their presence and not only do nothing about it, but prevent other people from doing something about it.

[Yeetboy0206 1574]

Just now, Pancho said:

Your djinn will never be more of an aengul like xan will be of order

Xan's death was truly the end of an era lol

[Werew0lf 24180]

Just now, Ryfin Chany said:

Honestly, yeah. Raguel can work, but he needs a foil so that he doesn't just get his way all the time. Think about it, when has Raguel ever seemed like anything more than an unstoppable force of nature that no one can compete against?

 

I got hit by 6 crossbow bolts by Azdrazi and was defeated quite easily last I remember...

 

Oh er... fake news. I am unstoppable. 

[Unwillingly 18096]

I don't have any strong opinions on the subject (I do) but why do you believe that the amount of nations that have been culled is "unsustainable," even though past maps, if not for most of LOTC's existence, have consistently survived on 9-10 nations at a time? aevos having 23 nations at its peak isn't the norm you're under the impression it is, it's the outlier, so to suggest that it's unsustainable or otherwise detrimental to the server isn't accurate

[Werew0lf 24180]

Just now, NotEvilAtAll said:

People see the green tag and just go along with it in a way they wouldn't if the same RP were done by someone without a green name tag.

 

I apologise for roleplaying as an ST.

 

That is my bad.

[Yeetboy0206 1574]

3 minutes ago, Werew0lf said:

 

I got hit by 6 crossbow bolts by Azdrazi and was defeated quite easily last I remember...

 

Oh er... fake news. I am unstoppable. 

When the heck did this happen? Also, did those Azdrazi survive?

[wowj 9747]

7 minutes ago, Ryfin Chany said:

I learned IRPly that Raguel's just a demi-djinn playing at being Aengul

Don't metagame the Story-Team CA.

Count your days.

[Frisket 4538]

as much as the ooc has been happening.

 

i’ve been enjoying the story my small community has been making on its own, the consequences seem inevitable in rp, and my character is now faced to make a hard choice. 
 

I understand how persecution, racism, and fantatism maybe unnecessary and unwanted. But you have to remember people aren’t always self inserting. Sometimes the best leaders do what they can with what they got, and adapt the best way possible. I recently learnt that is most of the case with pixel politics, and how miserable it is. So consequences like so above happen!

 

fantasy stories always tell groups, cults, nations persecuting their enemy to no ends and committing atrocities against them to justify a evil political story. And such tales create very cool characters that ascend above the ground to revolutionize the world around them. 
 

my point it, no one is persecuting you Oocly for rp reasons, sometimes to have a better fantasy, you have to accept reality as logic.

 

if I do X then realistically ABC happens unless EFG happens.

 

this is just my own two cents