The State of LOTC

[Sarven 2619]

Hello, here for my obligated comment for rep farm, please and thank you :)

 

(Also ST mafia destroying nations is a crazy conspiracy theory lmao)

[Priceflash 832]

>tfw you want to role play in a tavern like this is schoolrp and not engage in a dynamic diverse fantasy environment with a budding economy, war, and cross nation interaction

 

If we let the server be as you want it to be it will die, because quite frankly schoolrp and other servers do that niche better. There is no point in a sprawling map or any economic features if we are gonna cater to tavern rp exclusively might as well have a 500x500 map and remove crafting from the game. If thats what people want by all means

[LoxyTheReindeer 356]

13 minutes ago, NightOfTheWind said:

that's rough to hear. it sounds like you're having a lot of trouble trying to make a place/community to get the rp that ur character wants or something you as the player find more fun. someone will obviously correct me if im wrong but what you're complaining about is kind of a thing that can just sorta happen and has happened to plenty of other peoples communities.
a lot of the stuff that happens is within server rules and the only reason you can really hold against your community being instantly wiped off the face of the earth with a giant canonist death beam is if the reason for conflict is OOCly motivated. i think being a lot more clear on this point would help with communication since your initial post imo made it seem more like you're just upset by the fact that a large majority of human players are able to control the tides of the server more than your own community is able to

If i were to give you any advice i think the best thing to say is that sometimes these things just happen and to try and explore different avenues of rp maybe on other characters to try and find something else you find fun and maybe try again at a later point in time or just not play the server in general if you dont find it fun (you'd be surprised how many players still play the server despite the fact they dont have fun) 

I think that's another part of the problem- people assume that just because they haven't experienced whatever it is I'm talking about, that it doesn't happen or I'm exaggerating, etc. And the other part of the problem is that the threats I've heard about have all been OOC- rply, I haven't even had contact with the people who supposedly want to war us. Truth be told, I don't even know if they actually do. It could all be rumors and speculation that's meant to intimidate and cause fear- until it exists in roleplay, I have no clue. 

I also think it's telling that around 20-30 people can come forth and say "I've felt the exact way" and still be told that they're wrong. And that's not counting all the people who either haven't come forth, only come forth behind closed doors, or have already quit.

[PrimnyaQuorum 4009]

2 minutes ago, Priceflash said:

>tfw you want to role play in a tavern like this is schoolrp and not engage in a dynamic diverse fantasy environment with a budding economy, war, and cross nation interaction

 

If we let the server be as you want it to be it will die, because quite frankly schoolrp and other servers do that niche better. There is no point in a sprawling map or any economic features if we are gonna cater to tavern rp exclusively might as well have a 500x500 map and remove crafting from the game. If thats what people want by all means

"fantasy" and its the same dirt road cobblestone village built

lol get real

[Priceflash 832]

4 minutes ago, PrimnyaQuorum said:

"fantasy" and its the same dirt road cobblestone village built

lol get real

What's the relevance here? I have yet to walk into a nation without good build quality -- haelunor or whatever it is called has looked like a copy paste of the same build for the past 10 years ive played the game.

[Rig 17591]

I want to have empathy, but honestly one of my first experiences on the server was being skinned alive and I shrugged it off. LoTC is not for everybody; it requires unshakeable confidence and thick skin to play in an environment where essentially everybody thinks they're the main character. 

 

You have two choices: 

 

(Demijinn Pill Lore, credit Werewolf)

 

- Grow acclimated to dynamic-ism and be prepared to deal with these historical events that are transpiring around you. Have a good attitude when you win or lose and detach your ego from the server. Don't let anybody else inflict damage on your self-esteem, much less in a game environment that you're not totally adjusted to yet. Many people have played here for years and to some extent there is generational knowledge which is passed down between players over the years.

- Crash out and blame everybody else for your own problems. I promise you this leads to nothing good. It leads to a lack of accountability which precedes either quitting or getting a bad attitude. You'll just become some LOLcow and people will farm you for reactions all the time and further push you into a cycle of self-inflicted generational abuse until you go mad and end up in a psych ward because you decided the opinions and actions of people on Minecraft are how you determine your own freedom and self-respect.

 

UNPLUG FOR YOUR OWN SANITY. RIP THE ETHERNET CABLE OUT NOW!

 

 

 

[Cheese 8899]

I dont have anything to say other than 28 upvotes to 100+ comments is actually ludicrous 

[LoxyTheReindeer 356]

8 minutes ago, Dr Random K. said:

I think it's independent btw

bro I autofilled it and didn't notice lmfao

-insert that one "miner spelling mistake" meme here-

[Coronate 5528]

56 minutes ago, Sarven said:

Hello, here for my obligated comment for rep farm, please and thank you :)

 

(Also ST mafia destroying nations is a crazy conspiracy theory lmao)

its not a conspiracy lol

 

                                    -slayer of 6 nations

[xo31 4027]

I'm a bit late but can I get some rep too I hate werewolf and I love uh werewolf and stuff idk the best decision I ever made on lotc was suddenly taking a step back and realizing the people who are making my experience worse probably get no bitches and stack no paper and now I don't take it seriously and just try and improve others fun 

[MysticalWeasel 916]

Spoiler

@Werew0lf Thanks for the $25.00 on Paypal

I know Raguel is actually an Ent lord I've seem his tree

[NightOfTheWind 3226]

1 hour ago, LoxyTheReindeer said:

I also think it's telling that around 20-30 people can come forth and say "I've felt the exact way" and still be told that they're wrong. And that's not counting all the people who either haven't come forth, only come forth behind closed doors, or have already quit.

Well I don't believe in majority rules esp in LOTC. I've seen plenty of instances where large player groups have come out saying the same thing and just being factually wrong. This doesn't invalidate their feelings of course and yours shouldnt be invalidated either. I do think your main issue is just the fact you want to have your own community but you're afraid of getting insta-warred by the United Nations without much of a good reason. Lol I don't blame you for thinking its kinda annoying if you just wanna chill out and suddenly you get like three player groups constantly bothering your character.

If I were to give you advice as a player thats been playing for multiple years, as messed up as it might sound, to just give up and integrate the community you're trying to create into a pre-existing nation. Honestly I think the server would do well if we had a handful of nations like we did 5-6 years ago but that's just me. You'd be surprised how many smaller player groups I've seen genuinely improve the rp and activity of a nation after joining them. And hey, if you still want to do your own thing, just give it time. Maybe after you build yourself up your character can try to make their own place with the community they have. I think something like that happened with haelunor? like it split into two--celianor and haelunor. Or like father circle leaving the wood elves in amathine to become the vale of nevaehlen. I think yong ping also did that after living in vortice(?) for a while, and they became like one of the most active nations at the time. 

Memes aside I would try to let go of the fact that you need to make your own place to have fun. you might still disagree with me and thats fine but i think you should get whatever community you have and try to integrate yourselves in a community on the server that will accept you, and in turn accept any dynamic avenues you might find in that nation (becoming a knight in a human place, becoming a smith in a dwarven place) rather than trying to build yourself up from scratch
 

[Treshure 5818]

2 hours ago, LoxyTheReindeer said:

A lot of people have commented something along the lines of "just detach from it personally and go enjoy the new rp being made" and that misses part of the point I was trying to make. Because I can't do that- and this was an issue way back in the war on the East. Attempting to start over, make something new, move on, etc, is being met with attempts to force people into one nation or niche or style that benefits the current winning party. I currently am trying to make my own nation, directly as a result of this war, and I'm already being told that multiple nations want to war us the moment we get nation status. I'm not naming names- I don't want to start a witchhunt- but understand that the sentiment "just move on" isn't exactly helpful when a lot of people won't let us. When the rp we want and are trying to pursue is nearly impossible to find underneath all the conquest driven rp, if not actively dying due to it.

And the "consequences of roleplay"? Some of these nations didn't become ruins or history lessons in rp- they simply ceased to exist. Re-pasted over as if they were never built. Dunwen and Silasia off the top of my head.

And for everyone mentioning ooc toxicity- that is a problem and a valid point, but not the one I was trying to make. The point I was trying to make is that regardless of who is right or wrong, of who wins or loses, when people start leaving because they feel like it's impossible to enjoy the server anymore, there is a serious problem. And it's not a small demographic- it's more and more people every day. Yes, maybe we are the minority. Or maybe we've all just left already. At this point, it's impossible to say.

 

Yes, nations cease to exist. Yes, people quit because they're dissatisfied with the results. And unfortunately, yes, this has been weighed over ten years of role-play and the current rules are a reflection of that. What you don't really see are the nations that stagnate and sink into decay. You don't see flagrantly hostile role-play with no release for tension, nor the tone of the server taking a casual and melancholy approach when all consequence has been removed.

 

In a system where people can lose, people will lose, and that ******* sucks. But the alternative is a timeline where we make everyone happy, and by that effort nobody is. 

[Mamimiux 217]

But... Humans in the lore are the most POTENT of all the Descendant races. So it makes the most sense that humans would be a majority of Aevos' (and all future Maps henceforth)... 

[moosehunter123 1081]

All I got to say is bring back nexus bros. Thanks also no tea party roleplay is lame.