WHAT ARE WE DOING???

[NotEvilAtAll 10906]

5 minutes ago, Crevel said:

 

What you think is wrong and you have already lost. Multiracial communities exist because those communities themselves cannot form a consistent culture that attracts people so the selling point becomes "anyone can come here, you are welcome :)" in RP and they are often advertised as OOC safe spaces like in Elysium (we know how that turned out). It's more enticing to see a roleplay community driven by the roleplay world that gains momentum with the narrative and culture around it rather than it being a place to exist for, as you have put it in nicer terms, but I'll say more bluntly: a city of rejects where everyone is welcomed. I would be more jealous of a thriving community that is prosperous by its own merits rather than by the antithesis all-welcoming slop port city.

If you don't want there to be communities of rejects then stop rejecting people :P.

 

Where there is demand, supply will follow.

[xo31 3979]

6 minutes ago, Crevel said:

What you think is wrong and you have already lost. Multiracial communities exist because those communities themselves cannot form a consistent culture that attracts people so the selling point becomes "anyone can come here, you are welcome :)" in RP and they are often advertised as OOC safe spaces like in Elysium (we know how that turned out). It's more enticing to see a roleplay community driven by the roleplay world that gains momentum with the narrative and culture around it rather than it being a place to exist for, as you have put it in nicer terms, but I'll say more bluntly: a city of rejects where everyone is welcomed. I would be more jealous of a thriving community that is prosperous by its own merits rather than by the antithesis all-welcoming slop port city.

As a side note, I think that something Sutica-like should exist, though not in it's form. I conversed in this in ooc the other day.

A multiracial community who has a sort of 'thieves guild' culture of outcasts, and instead of a 'anyone is welcome' it's 'everyone is equally welcome,' - like a gotham city or some shit.

[Crevel 7557]

2 minutes ago, NotEvilAtAll said:

If you don't want there to be communities of rejects then stop rejecting people :P.

 

Where there is demand, supply will follow.

 

I want there to be communities of rejects. I just think that your idea that people who dislike them are jealous is a very stupid idea. The rejects need to have their own places to go so they don't pollute the good places to roleplay. I don't want to preach an RP sermon in a church only to find that there's a barechested wood elf sitting next to a ghost listening in at the pews talking together. 

[lemonke 6014]

What is this about communities of rejects and not wanting them? Wtf, is this still minecraft?

[Crevel 7557]

3 minutes ago, lemonke said:

What is this about communities of rejects and not wanting them? Wtf, is this still minecraft?

 

We live in a society and there is a hierarchy. Netherite on top and dirt at the bottom.

[DISCOLIQUID 2701]

Fighting people in the main-square in the activity capitol of the world is not very pataphysical. Do villain RP behind closed doors, bribe & plot a way to violence. It's true that some Alban guards suffer from main-character energy, but the majority I've interacted with do have somewhat developed characters, a functioning brainstem, and an understanding of narrative. 

 

As always, I dislike when players who have committed to evil are wholly unallowed to just visit a city at all - it's plausible that guards might avoid conflict with a known do-badder simply because they care more for the peace as a whole, and starting a one-sided murderous fight is rather bland from either side. I think a cold war style of "as soon as you start something, you're dead" is better than "die now, ask questions never". There are many RP outlets to handling an evil-doer in your city besides just CRPing them, like arresting them, mocking them, maybe even trying to sprinkle holy water on them. 

[LoTC's Next Top Model 1626]

the other day i saw some guys ask for pvp and the guards refused and then complained in looc for like fifteen minutes while the others guys just kept emoting walking away until they were gone lmao.

 

[Rig 17580]

2 hours ago, Werew0lf said:

I'll give you a more serious response.

 

You're crying about no longer being excited to roleplay in a nation that was created a few days before or after the announcement of a map end. Unfortunately, the Empire was created with a lack of main city, so Alba had to host and centralise most of it -- the placement of vassals is wonky, and peoples general motivation to do anything has been lowered because they simply want to sit and wait for next map, which is valid. The issue here being that the administration has announced their map end six months earlier than they should have. The Empire was also created in a rush period, people wanted a new buzz, and so we made the new buzz, and because we had no place, Alba became that buzz--even through roleplay, our council, government, laws, guard, knights, it was made in a hurry, and now it's slowly being refined.

 

Onto your complaint; the do-badders being 2-emote pvp'd. Why? That's because the do-badders suck. 

 

Their roleplay is slop, their emote quality is dry--when they initially started to come and do villainy, they were given justifiable means to start a story, and when they were killed, it was CRP. However, when the same do-badders return everyday to do the same villainy, you water down your RP significantly. Sounds like a bad thing to say as an ST, but I'd rather just PvP them to death instead of reliving the same roleplay villainy from the same roleplay villain I just did four times over in Alba five to six days ago.

 

The reason this is not centralised RP is because Alba is not the heart of the Empire. There's a lot of vassals who do not want to interact with Alba, but they want to interact with the imperial family. This is all fixed next map when we have a capital city. We've been trying to get our capital city pasted this map but [admin] has kept stalling it.

 

If you aren't enjoying the RP, just move on bro. Don't RP in Alba. Go RP in Numendil or somewhere else and continue on with your day. Even though Alba is currently very active, there's always RP elsewhere. You don't have to be there.

 

Tiring wokeism of LoTC--the incessant boring complaints, cry-babying. Just make it better for yourself if you don't like it lol.

 

I'm going to choose to make an addendum to this to clarify some things as I am the one responsible for the Inquisitors project in the Empire. I always go out of my way to allow people I am CRPing with to message me and if they asked me something feasible as a favor, I would give it to them gladly because my intent is not to make people uncomfortable. That being said, I have often had my kindness with regards to these things abused. If you're referring to the mass execution that took place the other day under my own purview, the emotes were not rushed on my end -- there was a huge crowd present and I believe we were about 1-2 hours into the roleplay where we arrested about four people who were responsible for camping one of our tiles and attempting to assassinate a noble player. The players then proceeded to report me to Moderation without speaking to me about ways in which I could slow down the RP. Nothing came of this report since I didn't break any rules. For instance, if they asked, I could have asked the crowd to emote in W or Q, and made things much more substantive than 2-3 sentence long emotes from our end. I did feel like I was taking my time already with the situation, but I am not above trying to tweak my RP to help make other people feel more comfortable. 

It is fine if you disagree with individual aspects of how combat is conducted, however in terms of actual server rules, we do our best not to violate them. One of the players (who will not be named unless they deliberately post since I don't know if they want to be mentioned) had asked Coronate to leave early so that we could just "kill an NPC of [their] character without them present". Coronate denied this request for obvious reasons, it is power-gaming and unscrupulous to kill somebody's persona without them present. 

 

Combat is more or less intended to move quickly under these rule sets to avoid stalling and to not keep players pigeon-holed in the same combat scenarios. Something I will point out to you XO31 is the following:

 

- Many roleplayers who I regularly attack or arrest are responsible for ganking Pinktags at 2 am. 

- Many of them do not even attempt to negotiate or deescalate IRP, they act entitled to being freed on the basis of OOC goodwill alone, without making a genuine attempt to substantiate their own innocence. 

- They come often in the late hours of the night to do sh*t villainy to people who do not have CA's or ST loot so that they can farm soul shards or do gore p*rn with people who cannot fight back. This to me is the most egregious part right next to ganking pinktags for no good reason. 

 

So, again, we're not really acting out spite (in terms of the Inquisitors). I can't speak for other situations involving the Imperial Guard or other organizations since those are not whatsoever under my control. We're happy to do longer forms of RP and be accommodating to people we RP with! It just so happens that many of these people do not wish to communicate with us and just want an easy out. I am not even referring specifically to the people from that particular RP, I am speaking very generally, and this criticism is not intended to reflect on the personal integrity of people outside of the game.

 

Dealing with these people ends up sometimes being long and frustrating affairs that end up litigated by Moderation. Even in the case where both sides are innocent of wrongdoing, it can take hours to resolve a combat scenario. Even if you display patience with people and try to work with them, you can still end up reported for minute reasoning, just because they feel something which isn't even in the rule book. Given the server is 150-180 people online at a given time, it is impossible to make everybody happy.

 

I hope that offers you some kind of in-depth answer. 

[Seuss 1056]

I see some of your emotes @xo31and it feels like you'd be better off roleplaying elsewhere, brother. Perhaps Lurin.

[kuebiko 684]

3 hours ago, xo31 said:

As a side note, I think that something Sutica-like should exist, though not in it's form. I conversed in this in ooc the other day.

A multiracial community who has a sort of 'thieves guild' culture of outcasts, and instead of a 'anyone is welcome' it's 'everyone is equally welcome,' - like a gotham city or some shit.

 

so I have news for you

 

the community of cultural rejects does exist just not in the open

 

Tbh I'd love to see a secret society of rejects

[Gaja 1311]

sutica was an ugly build 

[xo31 3979]

14 minutes ago, Seuss said:

I see some of your emotes @xo31and it feels like you'd be better off roleplaying elsewhere, brother. Perhaps Lurin.

Seuss you are the one of the worst roleplayers I've seen in my life. Although I understand why you'd feel targetted, considering I spoke of 'Copy and pasted' emotes.

 

36 minutes ago, rigorous said:

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I also appreciate you actually giving a real answer. This isn't just for me, and I hope other people who shared my sentiment to some degree read the things from both you and werewolf.

[Seuss 1056]

8 minutes ago, xo31 said:

Seuss you are the one of the worst roleplayers I've seen in my life. Although I understand why you'd feel targetted, considering I spoke of 'Copy and pasted' emotes.

Don't get too upset. I wouldn't want a run in with the same character and their multiple personalities.

[HandsomeFloppa 722]

3 hours ago, Crevel said:

The rejects need to have their own places to go so they don't pollute the good places to roleplay.

That's a wild thing to say

[Rig 17580]

12 minutes ago, xo31 said:

Seuss you are the one of the worst roleplayers I've seen in my life. Although I understand why you'd feel targetted, considering I spoke of 'Copy and pasted' emotes.

 

I also appreciate you actually giving a real answer. This isn't just for me, and I hope other people who shared my sentiment to some degree read the things from both you and werewolf.

 

No worries. At the end of the day we're all playing to have fun.