[✗] Blisterbark Ammendment

[femurlord 3751]

 

OLD

 

APPLICATIONS [REFINED]

 

Stripped Blisterbark bears a unique interaction with fresh blood. Much like its Blisterthorn relative, the material will sprout myriad barbs when thrust into flesh as if tiny fangs were clenching onto a wound.  Attempting to remove the Blisterbark from a wound without first soaking it in saltwater will, no doubt, tear away chunks of flesh and incur greater hemorrhaging.  This said, the inherent brittleness of the wood necessitates that the Blisterbark be fashioned into munition tips or sharpened stakes rather than standard melee weapon,s given the high amounts of force required to pierce into flesh.

 
Upon Vampires of any type, however, the barbs would incur a few secondary effects. First, the Vampire would begin to feel great amounts of non-debilitating unease as if they were being stalked by a looming presence. Secondly, their sense of smell would begin to become overwhelmed by the musk of something foul. Thirdly, the Vampire would find themselves drained of [2] units of Genus, potentially lowering them multiple tiers of Hunger as blood is sapped away from their reserves. Lastly, if staked through the heart of a Moroi, an immolation-like effect would occur whereby the Moroi would erupt violently across a [2x2x2] space in a spray of gore, necessitating that they be restored by the Rite of Revival due to Blisterbark's nefarious origin.

 

REDLINES [REFINED]

 

1. Stripped Blisterbark possesses the endurance of brittle plywood and will shatter following physical impact. This is to say that it can only be used to strike once before degrading, and any attempts to block with the material will fail as its form suffers critical failure.

2. Stripped Blisterbark stakes can only be shot from hand-crossbows, given that the full force of a crank-crossbow would cause a stake to explode. Alternatively, a Blisterbark stake may be manually aligned and struck with a hammer.

3. Stripped Blisterbark, if sharpened in any way, cannot be used by Oscillits. However, if the Blisterbark is dull, it cannot render a combative advantage lest inserted into an already open wound.

4. Stripped Blisterbark retains a weight comparable to that of standard wood.

5. Though an open material, Blisterbark’s effects on vampires cannot be “inferred” and must be adequately discovered through roleplay. While it may be reasonable to assume a blood-leeching wood might harm Vampires, it is a leap of logic to then say “if I stake a Moroi through the heart it will Soft-PK them”. Further, blisterbark ARROWS or BOLTS rather than STAKES will not render this effect due to their reduced surface area.

6. Stripped Blisterbark does NOT require an ST Signature.

 

NEW

APPLICATIONS [REFINED]

 

Stripped Blisterbark bears a unique interaction with fresh blood. Much like its Blisterthorn relative, the material will sprout myriad barbs when thrust into flesh as if tiny fangs were clenching onto a wound.  Attempting to remove the Blisterbark from a wound without first soaking it in saltwater will, no doubt, tear away chunks of flesh and incur greater hemorrhaging.  This said, the inherent brittleness of the wood necessitates that the Blisterbark be fashioned into munition tips or sharpened stakes rather than standard melee weapons, given the high amounts of force required to pierce into flesh.

 

Upon Vampires of any type, however, the barbs would incur a few secondary effects. First, the Vampire would begin to feel great amounts of non-debilitating unease as if they were being stalked by a looming presence. Secondly, their sense of smell would begin to become overwhelmed by the musk of something foul. Thirdly, the Vampire would find themselves drained of [2] units of Genus, lowering them a single tier of hunger, as blood is sapped away from their reserves. Lastly, if staked through the heart of a Greater Vampire, an immolation-like effect would occur whereby the Greater Vampire would erupt violently across a [2x2x2] space in a spray of gore, necessitating that they be restored by the Rite of Revival due to Blisterbark's nefarious origin.

 

REDLINES [REFINED]

 

1. Stripped Blisterbark possesses the endurance of brittle plywood and will shatter following physical impact. This is to say that it can only be used to strike once before degrading, and any attempts to block with the material will fail as its form suffers critical failure.

2. Stripped Blisterbark stakes can only be shot from hand-crossbows, given that the full force of a crank-crossbow would cause a stake to explode. Alternatively, a Blisterbark stake may be manually aligned and struck with a hammer.

3. Stripped Blisterbark, if sharpened in any way, cannot be used by Oscillits. However, if the Blisterbark is dull, it cannot render a combative advantage lest inserted into an already open wound.

4. Stripped Blisterbark retains a weight comparable to that of standard wood.

5. Though an open material, Blisterbark’s effects on vampires cannot be “inferred” and must be adequately discovered through roleplay. While it may be reasonable to assume a blood-leeching wood might harm Vampires, it is a leap of logic to then say “if I stake a Moroi through the heart it will Soft-PK them”. Further, blisterbark ARROWS or BOLTS rather than STAKES will not render this effect due to their reduced surface area.

6. Stripped Blisterbark’s abilities may not stack, meaning no more than [2] Genus may ever be taken and only reduces them a single tier of hunger for any given Vampire in a single roleplay encounter. For example, a Corcitură who is Quenched and has [3] Genus would be reduced to Thirsting and have [1] Genus remaining. While a Moroi who is Thirsting and has [3] Genus would be reduced to Withered and be left with [1] Genus.

7. Greater Vampires constitute as any Vampire which is no longer mortal, i.e. Moraice, Siliti, and Strigae or anything in-between that an ET deems as such.

8. Stripped Blisterbark does NOT require ST signature.

 

 

[spaazmatism 1023]

+1

death to vague lore!!

[Tentoa 3160]

-1
I fundamentally disagree with the first half of the added redline, given the strength of the moroi CA taking three bolts of this stuff to put you down is more than fair. Honestly, the cap for how much can be lost to blisterbark should be removed entirely. 

If three projectiles made of this stuff hit you, rough going, but you're put in a situation where three projectiles hit you. I'm fully in the camp that a genus-draining material that only effects vampires is a niche weakness - no one is going to carry these around unless they're specifically looking to do harm to vampires. Taking the bite out of the effectiveness of a vampire-hunter weapon is the opposite approach to clarifying this redline.


EDIT: After conferring with Femur privately, I am inclined to say that a fair compromise to this, as Blisterbark should be a niche tool, is to meet in the middle and keep the redline change, but add the ability for Blisterbark to be made into crank crossbow ammunition that can pierce armor but still can't be recovered. If it's changed to this, I flip my opinion to +1

[M1919 2299]

-1

 

There's no reason to penalize the character(s) who put in the effort to prepare properly and use the material intelligently against eldritch beasts of the night. The Moroi are already significantly empowered—as they should be—and this material exists precisely to give an informed, well-equipped huntsman a fighting chance.
 

Given that, it's reasonable to suggest that a single impact lowers hunger by one tier, with subsequent impacts stacking, which could be something that helps clarify the current vagueness complained about by all parties regarding the lore. And as Tentoa said above, if a vampire ends up taking three separate wounds from three distinct weapons or pieces of blisterbark ammunition, that's precisely the kind of scenario where they should suffer the full consequences of their opponent's preparation.

That said, nothing stops most of them from simply cutting their losses and attempting to flee into the sunset after the first hit.

[femurlord 3751]

39 minutes ago, M1919 said:

-1

 

There's no reason to penalize the character(s) who put in the effort to prepare properly and use the material intelligently against eldritch beasts of the night. The Moroi are already significantly empowered—as they should be—and this material exists precisely to give an informed, well-equipped huntsman a fighting chance.
 

Given that, it's reasonable to suggest that a single impact lowers hunger by one tier, with subsequent impacts stacking, which could be something that helps clarify the current vagueness complained about by all parties regarding the lore. And as Tentoa said above, if a vampire ends up taking three separate wounds from three distinct weapons or pieces of blisterbark ammunition, that's precisely the kind of scenario where they should suffer the full consequences of their opponent's preparation.

That said, nothing stops most of them from simply cutting their losses and attempting to flee into the sunset after the first hit.

I do not think it is reasonable to allow stacking for what is an open material where there are many others available, as listed in Moroi lore. The material has been given the option, as BOLTS or ARROWS to pierce armor, which still allows its Genus-sapping ability and Hunger reduction. Which still is rather useful, a Quenched Moroi made Thirsting cannot use Engorge. Furthermore a Thirsting Moroi would become Withered, making them as weak as a Voidal Mage.

This is a non ST-signed item which seems to have better use than any ST weakness Moroi were WRITTEN to have and is still useful, you just cannot stack it anymore. As totally bottoming out someone's Genus would instantly kill them, hard-limiting both Moroi AND CORCITURA (FA!!!!) players, where the normal player, without any lore, takes 5 million arrows and still survives to see a Clinic.

[King_Kunuk 3022]

Same vibes honestly as pure aurum against undead. Open material with minimal drawback in use (since people always ignore how heavy gold is and most likely would bend and become useless after 1 hit) so +1 change. IF it was ST signed material I would see this change being something to deny.

[winterblood 11181]

delivering my peace offering of a blisterbark horse to vampiric lairs

[ScreamingDingo 20568]

st signing this effectively kills its use because it’ll never be handed out. Stacking weakness is completely fair to adjust, as the theorycraft of being able to instantly kill a Moroi with three good archers is brutal.
 

I just wanted my bodkins I don’t even want to kill vampires :’(

[FoogThe2stnd 323]

I will ask cause I am curious, while I have my issues with this amendment that last amendment is the one I think is the most problematic. If blisterbark would now require st-signage does that imply that stripped blisterbark become something that is only obtainable in events? If it is just a personal rp what is the limit on st signed blisterbark?  

[PrimnyaQuorum 4003]

9 minutes ago, FoogThe2stnd said:

I will ask cause I am curious, while I have my issues with this amendment that last amendment is the one I think is the most problematic. If blisterbark would now require st-signage does that imply that stripped blisterbark become something that is only obtainable in events? If it is just a personal rp what is the limit on st signed blisterbark?  

Would it not just require you to submit a blisterbark herb item per X #of arrows? I think this is abit overkill of a reaction 

[FoogThe2stnd 323]

14 minutes ago, PrimnyaQuorum said:

Would it not just require you to submit a blisterbark herb item per X #of arrows? I think this is abit overkill of a reaction 

@PrimnyaQuorumI am just asking for clarification, how is that overkill? I thought we were against 'vague lore'? It is a reasonable thing to ask while the post is fresh, perhaps a change or clarification to be made. 

How would I know if it would just require the herb item, you cannot get blisterbark as an herb even, only 'blisterthorn'. They are different items.

And if you go down the route, that means that it gets even harder to obtain. 1x Blisterthorn traded for 1x Blisterbark item? Basically killing the piece from ever being used, the amendment while generous with some additions reads as if the last and sixth were made as the focus, because someone got ganked by their material weakness 🥀.

Edited February 8 by FoogThe2stnd

[spaazmatism 1023]

43 minutes ago, FoogThe2stnd said:

I will ask cause I am curious, while I have my issues with this amendment that last amendment is the one I think is the most problematic. If blisterbark would now require st-signage does that imply that stripped blisterbark become something that is only obtainable in events? If it is just a personal rp what is the limit on st signed blisterbark?  

where on earth does it say that it requires st signage? i must be missing it?

[FoogThe2stnd 323]

19 minutes ago, spaazmatism said:

where on earth does it say that it requires st signage? i must be missing it?

O_O

Ah. . . I am not sure, I could've sworn it said such when I first saw this a few hours ago. Though Dingo also mentioned st signage, I think femur changed it but idk, could have just had a moment.

Edited February 8 by FoogThe2stnd

[souleater007 858]

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[Ardory 2978]

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