[Alchemy Addition] Solomon's Salts

[Borin 7645]

11 minutes ago, Celestial_Bleh said:

A potential issue is the redline in blisterthorn that says “items made using blisterthorn do not require an ST signature.”

 

If players want to use 30 blisterthorn for 1 dust, would they just be dumping the 30 blisterthorn in the st chest? 

 

Taking mortal hearts also runs the risk of going the sigismund candle route where something that is supposed to be “taboo” and a deterrent doesn't generate much roleplay around it at all. The time limit put to the harvesting method may help, though. 

 

In general…. I /am/ curious to the reasoning of needing this at all. The corc FA barely has any benefits that cant be better achieved through other means. And then a whole slew of downsides. While this seems fun flavor/theory-wise, it might be too soon mechanics and roleplay-wise when we haven’t had the chance to see the effect of the new salt testing amendment. 

Taking peoples hearts isnt taboo if they are the hearts of non-humans, non-humans dont matter

[Celestial_Bleh 224]

11 minutes ago, Borin said:

Taking peoples hearts isnt taboo if they are the hearts of non-humans, non-humans dont matter

Case in point then xD 

 

Taking the heart of a mortal isnt as much if a deterrent as its supposed to be

[Karina 1881]

6 hours ago, PrimnyaQuorum said:

this and corc cure pot are just deep examples of the dichotomy of man [whom both rejects and pleads for alchemy bloat].

 

it just got amended out and we're adding it back in but worse and w/ legal metagaming protections.  we could all save time and lore resources if we spammed hateful forum messages to corc players

imagine how many hearts we could turn into potions, i love turning people into alchemy products

[Chimeraof1999 1187]

Wow. Okay yeah, MORE OF THIS ISLAMADON! I WANNA SEE MORE OF THIS!!

[GMRO 6186]

make it a human heart 

[Arianthe22 242]

The vampire in me wants this to be rare knowledge.

 

The alchemist in me rejoices.

 

The cost is fairly high and if its common knowledge people cannot claim they "don't know what it's made of". 

[tasty_cheesecake 2298]

all this because i walked around and pushed for passports a year ago

 

lowkey think that corcs shoulda just been taking their lumps and accept getting filtered (you are evil!!!) but im 99% sure mordus write initially said that a fed corc doesnt bloodboil anyway so idk?

[christman 3529]

34 minutes ago, tasty_cheesecake said:

but im 99% sure mordus write initially said that a fed corc doesnt bloodboil anyway so idk?

 

This was the original intention for corcitură in the Vampirism write but there was consistent pushback from the Team to keep testing mechanics as is. Only yesterday the amendment which allowed for a quenched / fed corcitură to no longer be subject to salt testing was passed with the understanding from most apprehensive voters that there would be an alchemy locked middle ground submitted for review, as Islamadon said. 

[FoogThe2stnd 323]

20 hours ago, PrimnyaQuorum said:

the dichotomy of man [whom both rejects and pleads for alchemy bloat].

Alchemy is meant to be the pure man's weapon against darkspawn and MA's that have a billion abilities and mechanics that make them unstoppable and almost impossible to root out. It is not worse, alchemy is a pain to gather materials, this is the change all the corc wanted, and complained about "player signed salt". Also bro, "the dichotomy of man", it is NEVER that serious 💀.

[Jaslaw 602]

Well at least its better than the last free testing, but getting human hearts isn't as much of an issue as you may think IMO

There is plenty of corpses around the map or just random dead, adding on that the heart needs to be taken from a PLAYER character would make it actually rare than John the Templar being able to go around the map, find some random corpses and get hearts that way

Coriticura remains are the harder one to get because its SPECIFIC- But with the possibility of just using blisternthorn it doesn't seem all that hard as well in truth, I have a friend that genuinely enjoys herb hunting and trust me getting INSANE amounts of herbs isn't that hard when you try enough

Generally I am also against testing as a whole but still, at least making it a tad bit harder than being able to cheese it would be at least better

[Benleft 2578]

22 hours ago, Islamadon said:

◈ Mortal Hearts may not be harvested from event NPCs, and only from fellow players. This may be affirmed via a player signed item, or confirmed via RP screenshots. These Hearts must be used within 2 OOC Days lest they be considered Inert.

 

23 minutes ago, Jaslaw said:

There is plenty of corpses around the map or just random dead, adding on that the heart needs to be taken from a PLAYER

It already says that and more.  

[Jaslaw 602]

3 minutes ago, Benleft said:

 

It already says that and more.  

Gud, at least that bit harder to get than missed that

[Venomous_Pup 2978]

On 4/30/2026 at 9:20 AM, Islamadon said:

 

◈ The use of a Mortal Heart must be done all at once, though may provide enough alchemical base for [3] Hunter’s Salt items, consuming all of the alchemist’s daily batch slots. An alchemist may choose to forgo up to ⅔ of these potential items in order to preserve their slots for other recipes, though the remaining Mortal Heart would be wasted.

 

 

I think this red line regarding having one heart functionally accounting for three to make salts undermines the purpose of having the heart in the first place somewhat considering how untaboo it is to butcher people in this world (as someone mentioned), Argentum was meant to be taboo to a degree because you required a living sacrifice and needed to perform a death blood magic ritual to even forge it, yet its in the hands of countless people because you can just sacrifice one random dude. With these salts, it is even more so, considering that if you kill a non-klone Corc, you can get seven Vampire Dust and the heart from them. If there is meant to be weight behind killing other players to secure a means to identify Corcs, I think it is fair to ask that it is one heart for one, however, I think it is fair that the hearts last longer than 2 days, upwards to a week if this change is made.