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Are all humans dumb?

Yes, all non-halflings.

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Orcs generally tend to put their focus into war related things. Building sturdy and defensible architecture, battlefield tactics that shame those of other nations, and Engineering masterful siege weapons (mostly just goblins doing that) are better indicators of their intellect than math or reading and writing. Alexander the Great was a brilliant man, but I guarantee you I could shame him in an algebra competition, or Psychology test, or an anatomy test. Yet I would never claim to be anywhere near as smart as him.

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I talk normal for a goblin :3

But i can talk orchish. But i'm horrible at it :P

As for the dumb orcs. Many new people actually just learn Orcish ((Orcs)) and stick to it. They are not stupid unless they write "Did u tocuh meh huamie" Then that is just a bit of a fail, Even for orcs :P Since it doesn't use the right grammar for orcish. (Actually thinking of writing an Orcish Dictionary))

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Dammit someone bet me to it a long time ago >_<. Maybe someone could publish an IG book that could be distributed to people that are not orc.

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But then humans would be able to understand the Orcs, which defeats the entire purpose of having a different language. :P

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((I like to think Orcs are like Klingons from Star Trek. Quite intelligent and wise but when it's a matter of honor or tradition they may seem foolish or stupid to outside races. One example would be the obvious fighting when the odds are highly against the orc but another less obvious example would be an orc rubbing raw meat on body to clean or setting self on fire to get dry. :P))

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Technically the Blah that Blawharag and Gragarn speak, while still being a purer form than what most Orcs speak, is still a bastardized mix between Oomie (the common tongue) and the true Blah (which is what Krug speaks). It contains mostly words unique to Orcish but a few words which are bastardized words from Oomie. "Ash" is unique to Orcish "Dat, Uz, Dem" are bastardized words. The Oomie words are bastardized to reflect the guttural throaty sort of speech which flows more naturally from Orcs. Their tongues and throat muscles tend to be thicker and are used from birth in order to speak the words unique to the blah. As a result, they do not suffer from atrophy like a human's throat muscles would because they never have need to make many sounds and grunts that the Orcs do. This presence of muscle and accustomed method of speaking using all of these muscles is what gives way to the "Orcish Accent".

There for What many humans perceive as "Dumb" because of the mispronunciation used by Orcs is in reality just a different biological/cultural make up.

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No Orcs are actually normal, some are smart some are dumb. mostly they are smart.

Its up to the situation. tell us some examples were you saw them as dumb in your eyes. but it would be explained differently by us.

name one orc besides mira or any other half orc that has done something incredibly smart.

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name one orc besides mira or any other half orc that has done something incredibly smart.

Me. At the retaking of Kramaroe in the first Human-Orc war, Blawharag and his men successfully repelled a Human counter attack. When he learned the Humans were reforming at Al'kazar to launch a second counter attack he knew his force would be at a disadvantage trying to defend Kramaroe a second time. Instead he ordered an assault and besieged Al'kazar. Shortly thereafter, he received reinforcments from the Dwarves, used information on weaknesses in the Al'kazar defenses to breach the wall and stormed the keep where he put the king under military arrest.

The strategy was proved highly effective. The Orcs were able to recapture and secure Kramaroe despite having a significantly smaller host than Al'kazar. Later Kramaroe's value was proven when it was traded for the Whispering Isles in the peace treaty to end the war. The retaking of Kramaroe was one of the most crucial battles in the war and is what ensured the Orcs bargaining chips for the peace treaty as well as offering much morale to the troops.

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I think Orcs judge intelligence differently from humans. While humans judge intelligence in complexity of thought, Orcs judge intelligence in how useful the thoughts actually are. That is why there are very few Orc philosophers, it is why Orc strategists and inventors are so highly prized. When combined with the "if you lose and die you deserved to die" mentality of the Orcs, it even explains why Orcs (unlike humans) will put their most ingenious minds on the battlefield: because (as they reason), if they're not smart and strong enough to win, they're not smart and strong enough to deserve to live. I think of the Orcs as an incredibly honorable society filled with people who only feel their lives are worth something so long as they are the greatest. That semi-delusional, self-confident attitude is what humans view as "stupidity" among Orcs: they can't all be the best, but most believe they are (while maintaining subservience to the Warlord).

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EDIT: Also, what is OCC? :lol:

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Intelligence varies with culture.

Orcs do not perceive intelligence in the same way as other races. A man can engineer complex mechanisms and recite ancient philosophies and brew intricate elixirs, but if he can't hold a sword in battle, he's a damned fool. Orcs revere intelligence that has a direct, practical application to their everyday life. Give a man a fish, feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, feed him for a lifetime. Tell a man that if he does not give you his fish you will gut him like one, this is the orcish way.

I also found this quote from Wikipedia interesting and somewhat orcish:

What is considered intelligent varies with culture. For example, when asked to sort, the Kpelle people take a functional approach. A Kpelle participant stated "the knife goes with the orange because it cuts it." When asked how a fool would sort, they sorted linguistically, putting the knife with other implements and the orange with other foods, which is the style considered intelligent in other cultures.
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Lokria.is smart, so is Krug. Mogroka, yer pretty smart. Lex is a dwarf, but I consider him orc and he is smart.

Yaghy is smart in his own way. Same with Thral mar. Vukgrak was smart too. I find Ned incredibly intelligent in a utilitarian manner.

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