A Grave Insult

[Bircalin 332]

ready, willing, and eager

( That's what I like to hear...*cough cough*)

[Aerinyes 402]

You are only one orc, Warmistress. The affection and caring you have for your family is not shared by your entire Warnation. That is the issue that is being discussed here.

As I have stated before, I have the most respect for you, and for other orcs as well whom have shown they can act in a civil manner within Malinor. But these are all individuals, not the entire Warnation.

I would like to make it clear that our people are not shouting for hostilities or war. If the pact were to end by the will of both our people's, then I would hope for it to be done peacefully.

As it stands right now, many do not wish to aid those that they believe do not respect them or their freedoms. It would be very different if the orcs would just respect our ways and our culture when they visit Malinor. We have done the same when visiting Krugmar. We learn your ways, your language, so we can visit as guests. But the same is not done in return. I know you and the Warlord have, and do. But your kin do not. And our hands are tied when it comes to correcting these individuals. That is why our people are speaking out. It has nothing to do with a child, though the child sparked a catalyst that has led to these events.

[ΚΨΙΞ 710]

You are only one orc, Warmistress. The affection and caring you have for your family is not shared by your entire Warnation. That is the issue that is being discussed here.

As I have stated before, I have the most respect for you, and for other orcs as well whom have shown they can act in a civil manner within Malinor. But these are all individuals, not the entire Warnation.

I would like to make it clear that our people are not shouting for hostilities or war. If the pact were to end by the will of both our people's, then I would hope for it to be done peacefully.

As it stands right now, many do not wish to aid those that they believe do not respect them or their freedoms. It would be very different if the orcs would just respect our ways and our culture when they visit Malinor. We have done the same when visiting Krugmar. We learn your ways, your language, so we can visit as guests. But the same is not done in return. I know you and the Warlord have, and do. But your kin do not. And our hands are tied when it comes to correcting these individuals. That is why our people are speaking out. It has nothing to do with a child, though the child sparked a catalyst that has led to these events.

You might as well just tell them you want War, the way your going at it. Stop acting like they done something wrong we broke their customs if anything they should be angry at us.

[Aerinyes 402]

You might as well just tell them you want War, the way your going at it. Stop acting like they done something wrong we broke their customs if anything they should be angry at us.

Can you show me where in our pact that they are allowed to pillage our cities and hurt our people?

[VonEbs 1224]

I was there at the creation of the pact, and it was merely in several words, without any specifications at all. I had already suggested calling a council meeting to put our alliances in words, but I was met with mixed responses. Now, we are galvanized into action, and a council meeting must be help. This one might have to be public, as this is up to them, not necessarily us.

[Aerinyes 402]

I would recommend that everyone on the council speak to the people of Malinor and see what their views on this are. We should be making decisions based on the will of our people, not the personal interests of ourselves. I made that vow before I was selected to be on the council.

[VonEbs 1224]

I would recommend that everyone on the council speak to the people of Malinor and see what their views on this are. We should be making decisions based on the will of our people, not the personal interests of ourselves. I made that vow before I was selected to be on the council.

Indeed. I am currently in the wilds, but when I return, I will attempt to talk to the people.

[Blawharag 277]

Skah latz pact, agh skah latz Albai. The Wardens are the only ones among you who have shown any interest in the Orcs. The rest of you would sooner have us die than have to deal with us. I can't believe I have been as tolerant of you all as I have been. The next toll I set up, I will exempt the Shara from, not the Albai. At least the Shara had the sense to give power to a leader worth a damn.

[VonEbs 1224]

Skah latz pact, agh skah latz Albai. The Wardens are the only ones among you who have shown any interest in the Orcs. The rest of you would sooner have us die than have to deal with us. I can't believe I have been as tolerant of you all as I have been. The next toll I set up, I will exempt the Shara from, not the Albai. At least the Shara had the sense to give power to a leader worth a damn.

You are tolerant? Also, I have spent much time in Krugmar, speaking with orcs, and occasionally getting into battles. But, all you are doing is insulting the competence of our race, and I am running out of patience. You have no respect for our laws, customs, leaders, or what we need. You are greedy, insolent, and so clouded by bloodlust you cannot tell your friends from your enemies. When I say you, I mean you in particular Blawharaq, not the orcs in general. Though, regarding the orcs in general, they express no want for a treaty, they just want to klomp us.

[KarmaDelta 969]

Krymrau sighs, still hearing this conversation

Hey, elf with the green hat. Mind your tone. As long as I can see we are still in an alliance. An alliance that will stay together until something is decided upon.

I dont care much for my own kind except my own kin [darkelves] but it seems you are spouting useless junk that is feeding this rage with one another. So i would reccomend staying quiet and let the kin speak. She seems to be the only one here who seems to be intelligent enough to say anything. Along with the Warmistress and the Warlord.

So sit in the back while the smart people talk. Same goes for the other orcs. Im tired of hearing your voices echo.

Krymrau holds his head and leaves

[VonEbs 1224]

((Deltaro, do you just make up characters on a whim?))

[Blawharag 277]

Ha me? I have been more tolerant than you can imagine, duguurz buub. I have stood and watched as your people put prisoners into a pit and shot them from safety. I have stood and watched as your people insulted our customs. I have stood and watched as your people grew trees on our desert, converting our sacred land into forest. I stood and watched as your people berated us for our laws being "barbaric". When two elves stopped me on the road, threw accusations at me for something some other Orc did, I stood and I accepted their accusations and fought them both, at the same time, and complained not a word for their honor's sake. I have stood, I have watched, and I have tolerated. For far too long I have tolerated. And now you continue to insult my honor. Were you an Orc, I would challenge you to a duel. But Im sure you are far too above our "barbaric" laws to accept such an honorable challenge. It's more than you deserve anyways, buub.

[Bawg 494]

(Wishes he can speak in charecter)

(Everything my charecter has done to elves had a reason behind it. He did not out of the blue and start raging at elves. I would tell you Bog's reasons, but that would ruin roleplay. I love you elfies, that's why I bug you everyday :P)

[KarmaDelta 969]

((Deltaro, do you just make up characters on a whim?))

[ this is my second character -_- and no i dont. There is a reason why i have a new character. Now stop ooc'ing and make more of this a debate ]

[VonEbs 1224]

I have run out of patience. This matter will be discussed by the council. As for me not being smart, you are delusional to think I cannot handle myself in a logical debate, and though my heart sometimes influences my actions, it does not rule them.