Rebellion Against The Mori

[Cosmik 220]

We had heard word of the dwarves coming to attack the Mori. The same word suggested that they would have attacked Elandriel as well, to exterminate any Mori there, and destroying our homes in the process.

This is why the treaty was in place. To provide a Mutual defense for both Menorcress and Malinor. Further.. to invade the Mori would take our full cooperation, that of which we were neither willing or ready to provide, as their warriors would need to use our land to even reach the Mori.

Because we made the treaty, we decided in the end to honor it. The dwarves had no valid reason to make war in our lands and have suffered for their brash decision.

(( If needed, I have a screenshot of a conversation I had with said survivor where he says he understands that he has no IG knowledge of the elven involvement and that he won't mention it. ))

[Cracker 4570]

(( I think Leif was referring to the particular elves, as in he wouldn't MG that you fought. He did survive (funny enough due to the fact he looked like a Mori, and thus you guys kinda ignored him), so technically he would have some IC knowledge.

I'm actually kind of confused on the ruling here. While the wood elves were iron-clad, doesn't the helmet still have a slit for eyes and mouth, so one can see through and breath through the helmet? Thus, I had thought that you could at least discern skin color when people wear armor, so seeing non-dark skinned elves fighting with the Mori would kind of unveil treachery. Plus I had also thought that Mori and Elves had a different body type so it is discernible of the difference?

Just wanted to clarify these points, thanks))

[Mellowmatthew 0]

(((I don't know why didn't die. I shot arrows at everyone I saw)))))

[Aislin 4354]

((Looks like I make quite a stir.))

[Amethain 25]

(( Thus, I had thought that you could at least discern skin color when people wear armor, so seeing non-dark skinned elves fighting with the Mori would kind of unveil treachery. Plus I had also thought that Mori and Elves had a different body type so it is discernible of the difference?

Just wanted to clarify these points, thanks))

((I can see where you are going with this comment, but there were a decent amount of Slaves involved in the battle as well. Ones who are just elves and they are not Mori so their body type would be similar to others of their race as well as their skin color being light. So if you saw a slave or if you saw a free elf how would you know the difference. Almost everyone was in armor, the light was low, and slaves were fighting alongside the Mori.

Does this help?))

[Jon Evaglno 202]

If we have this great treaty with the Mori, why do they take elves as slaves? Is this a lie, or is there a slavery issue to be sorted out?

((OOC c-c-c-combo breaker!))

[Aerinyes 402]

Has this happened before or after the treaty? We're not going to dwell on incidents that happened years before we agreed to the treaty. If something has happened between then and now, we need to know about it. We also need evidence that it is sanctioned by the government of Menorcress.

Just like elves, the Mori have their malcontents and bandits as well that plague them. During my capture by them many years ago, I saw this first hand. If Malinor was held accountable for every elf in Asulon, then we would have some serious issues.

Again I think you are speaking of years old incidents that this treaty has stopped. As for the slaves that you see in Malinor, we cannot do anything for them. They have to want to be free and while in Malinor they are considered free. However if they wish to serve a master that is their prerogative.

[susitsu 871]

Watching the situation progress more and more, Lucas where he sits high up in a tree, yawns. A yawn of boredom of course, nothing really gives him entertainment these days, even his sadism has dwindled quite a bit. He taps his chin thinking whether to openly respond to all this or not, he shrugs and keeping his relaxed position up in the tree he calls out.

"Yes, amazing how the Mori kept to this treaty SOO WELL as a whole. Though the fun part about this is they didn't at all. The only reason there isn't so much slaving these days is the fact that some Mori find it to be a lost cause to put themselves in so much danger now. And yes, I said danger. I don't care if the Mori are in town as long as they don't try to wound, kill, kidnap, or beat anyone, though it's usually the case they try that."

Glancing around a little, he judges who his audience is, looking to pick out familiar and new faces, their reactions to his words, what expressions they hold. What in their eyes is saying their opinions of him now. Studying it all he picks out in his head and organizes who seems neutral, uncaring, hateful, glad, or sad about his actions. He looks away from them all, resuming his relaxing position, he takes out a golden apple and tosses it from hand to hand and continues talking.

"The Mori's strength is defense, open attack is suicide, picking them off as they bring down their defense when rising their offense to try and do any of those wondrous acts I listed above is when it's best to strike. While some say we can't just go by the actions of a 'FEEW' Mori, then go by the actions of the majority which has been attempting to completely wipe us out on a number of occasions. So to say again, a full on attack is pointless, waiting for them to lower their defenses and strike first is not."

Without looking back at the crowd, he eases back into relaxing, expecting he'll be responding to more comments, he doesn't run off just yet. He simply continues tossing the apple from hand to hand while staring up at the canopy, though not truly looking at it. His gaze lies within his memories thinking of that incident which has likely crippled the Mori a nice amount.

[Wolf Druid Ouity 1461]

his memories thinking of that incident which has likely crippled the Mori a nice amount.

((._.))

Honestly, from what I've seen of these "Mori" I doubt they can be trusted to uphold any truce.

[Laurir'leh 2]

*Suddenly, a Mali'aheral approaches the news table and makes sure no one's around. He then sticks a note to the stack, scribbled with the same writing of the original transcription.*

"There you have it, Malinor Council. All these elves are against this treaty, and you should hear their pleas. You must realize what you have to do is prevent contact with the Mori, as it will only lead to disastrous events.

Elaren, wood elf"

[susitsu 871]

Blinks a bit at the note thinking how few people actually agreed to attacking the Mori among the Elves.((*Cough cough*))

[Aerinyes 402]

Malinor has always taken a stance of non-agression. Our council is NOT going to engage in offensive actions. We did not do so in Aegis and will not do so in Asulon.

If this is unacceptable, then those elves with violence on their minds can join their human kin in the mainlands. Leave wars and invasions to uncivilized barbarians.

This is not to say that our desire for peace is a sign of weakness. Far from it. Malinor as always will be prepared to defend ourselves if needed. Anyone who desires to harm our people will face the wrath of our immortal wisdom. Whether it be Mori that break the treaty, zealous Mali'aheral, or those from the mainlands, it does not matter, they will all fail.

[Laurir'leh 2]

((How do you know I'm a Mali'aheral?))

Don't you want to listen, or can't I write? I've already said that I do not want to attack the Mori, as it has seemed to be implied all this time, but rather don't have a friendly pose that leads us to being slaved and tortured in their caverns.

[Aerinyes 402]

I do not understand the point you are trying to make. If you do not wish to attack the Mori then what harm could the treaty do? I've already stated that Malinor will defend itself from attack. We're not going to stand idly by and just watch our own be taken away.

Again there has been no reports of this happening since the treaty was agreed to. All these claims are from before and are sparked by personal vendettas. Elves do not engage in senseless violence over simple grudges. Again if anyone wish to do violence, they are free to join their barbaric brethren on the mainlands.

Until there is evidence of the government of Menorcress conducting aggression towards Malinor, the treaty stays. It takes quite a bit of courage on my part to argue in favor of this. Especially concerning my experiences with the Mori in the past. I doubt many have remained within their capture for as long as I did, and lived to speak of it. I hope I can set an example to the rest of Malinor in saying that forgiveness can be had. I know such is not easy, but it is necessary for peace.

Any elf with a sound mind would agree with this. Only warmongers and malcontents would disagree.

((How do you know I'm a Mali'aheral?))

((Did not reference you specifically, was referencing the peoples/nations outside Malinor.))

[Aedan The Bard 350]

I say you all forget about this and follow what Haelphon said, seems like a better plan than the rest of them