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They are lol.

Also, how the f*ck did this spark up an availer controversy? Conspiracy I say, this is all part of a master plan...

*gasp*

You cursed on the forums!

Everyone! Report Vaq!

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*gasp*

You cursed on the forums!

Everyone! Report Vaq!

Didn't you know? Vaq is allowed to cuss all he wants. I remember when the server was lagging after an update he would post all kinds of obscenities in the disconnecting message. It was quite amusing and vulgar.

This series of events is also amusing. I will be keeping an eye on it.

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Well it seems that finally the server and all the members as well as the GMs and admins finally see what I and my friends have been trying to get them to for ages.

Now I know a lot of people would like to defend Mog and get him back into a being a GM, but none of you seem to understand what being a GM and having these powers means in terms of responsibility. I along with my friends, and I'm sure many others have known this for a long time, Mog abuses his power and breaks many rules that the GMs are supposed to be following to a tea, and be an example to the rest of the server.

Now many of you may say, Mog would never do this, he's a great guy" etc. but if was a great guy, him getting demoted would never have happened. He would never have abused his power so much and caused such grief and unfairness to other players, such as flying around and shooting a bow, or spawning stacked items for himself and his followers. I as well as my friends even believe that back when Riven was attacked and I as well as my friends were defending it, someone, and I'm not going to say who, managed to kill one of the attackers, and from their inventory, got stacked enchanted weapons and armour, as well as bedrock. Now I am pretty sure that such items are forbidden and if you have them, you are to be banned instantly. I was even shot with a bow and was sent flying about 10 blocks back during the assault, just before someone 2-hitted me with a gold axe, while I was wearing full diamond(except for my iron helm). Now many of you again would most likely say, "oh Mog couldn't of done that," but he was the one incharge of the attacking force, and he even gave the players on the attacking side perms to the city of Riven. So they just charged in, mined through the walls, and killed practically everyone.

So in the end if Mog really does want to help the server, he shouldn't care about being a GM and having powers that he can so easily abuse. He should just be thankfull that he isn't banned forever from LOTC for causing so much grief among the players, and causing massive distruptions among the balance of things, such as spawned in items, or giving all his followers perms to all the regions.

I don't care about all the haters out there who will probably -1 this post and all that, but I am merely speaking all the information I have gathered up while I was a part of this server, and after that. I am just glad to see Mog finally caught for the crimes he has commited against this server and those who play on it.

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Dont worry people,Mogroka is just busy crushing popular revolts in Qatar.Once he kills all the peasents all will be good again.:3

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Dont worry people,Mogroka is just busy crushing popular revolts in Qatar.Once he kills all the peasents all will be good again.:3

Oh my god, I laughed way too hard.

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Dont worry people,Mogroka is just busy crushing popular revolts in Qatar.Once he kills all the peasents all will be good again.:3

HEY! Don't slander Mogroka like that; His superior leadership means that nobody would dare revolt!

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-Spawning stacked diamond tools

Screenshots? I have failed to see this, I have even found his personal vaults and Wrath has even told me he stole from them saying a few diamonds and some armor.

-Spawning golden weapons and armour and /tping to a battle, dying and concequently giving orcs the items which you dropped

I have been to the last 5 Orc Fights/wars and some of thier raids, This is a lie, Mog would even yell at us to get the Rp asking for the items and not in Ts.

-Reports of flying and shooting arrows during a battle

Screenshots? And if you talk about last battle, He returned flying and thought he was vanished so he could watch the fight.And he thought he was vanished but he was not so he got killed a second time by a Dwarf Archer

-flying/using compass to get onto a roof and kill someone after shouting for guards to shoot arrows at him

Proof? I have helped mog chase people down from the roofs 24/7 and never seen that happen, I've seen him use an old lift that used to be in my old house that was it.

-Misuse of regioning powers, adding players as biome owners and regioning settlements in oren with no

charter

We have 2-3 Posts in our Charter system explaining it...but no one looks at it

-Giving out free stat redistributions to players in oren whom ask for it

Mog has donated over 1000 dollars to the server, I think he is safe to use those until his donations are used up.

General Admin Conduct;

-Swearing and raging at players in TS

I had to take Mog's OOc leader ship spot while he was gone for a week and I was ready to leave LOTC due to all the Bs. I actually applaud him for all this Bs he takes and seems to only rage a lil bit.

-Calling players "bad rpers" because they refused to pvp

Players call players bad rpers cause they dont wanna Rp fight, so why are they not in trouble?

-Telling Gms to "go **** themselves" for having a different opinion

People curse alot Even vaq, This is more of an Excuse then a reason..

Trying to force sexual roleplay with a player then insulting them for not complying

Im' Sorry but this is just a plain Lie, No Screenshot of it or Logs then

I have known Mog for Months now and I use to hate him the most of the server in the past. Until I ended up talking to him on a 1on1 talk in the Oren channel, cause I did not wanting him to become the Oren king OOCLY until I got to know him better. And Now, he is one of Good friends and such and is one of the most unbaised Gm's I have seen. He has threatend to ban me a few times for stuff I did in the past.He would never do this and if he would it would definitly would not be on LOTC or the LOTC Ts. He loves this server and has spent countless sleepless nights,Hours, and money to the server. Why on earth would he do this one stupid thing to get himself removed and possibly banned from LOTC?

-Sending offensive messages to a player whom you harbour malcontent for.

I saw the Screenshot...telling a Guy who spammed inapropite pictures of a guy and gets banned from Ts then goes to bug mogroka in game. THen go around and tell all beacuse mog said he did not even going to waste his hate on that person calling him a Lil' boy when in Rl the person is a Boy.

I Know this sounds Baised and about 10-20% but, I have been with mog thorugh some of the scenes of the accused crimes. And I just had to say what I know so far, and what I have seen.

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-Swearing and raging at players in TS

This is one of the worst reasons ever. The owner of the server, Vaq, has swore and even personally attacked people in front of the entire server on Livestream. And there is no shown proof for almost every other reason.

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If I post a ban report about how someone was hacking, with no screenies, do they get banned? :/

I'm not running blindly into this, I'd just love some proof he did this. Otherwise, he was just demoted due a group of players not liking him. >.>

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Yeah, I mean in ban reports people always say "Screenshots or it didn't happen". If there are some and they were shown I am sure many people would not be as mad about this. Otherwise it seems people complained about him so much about how he destroyed so many smaller places with his empire that he was demoted.

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I have never met Mogroka but if someone is punished on the server I think it is best to post at least some proof so that people do not think it is just because a group dislike him? I am not attempting to take sides but proof is nice....

Those who are getting all mad about him being demoted need to just trust the other admins.It should however be expected that players want to know why a player they like is demoted, remember the rule in ban/strike reports? Screenshots or it did not happen, should it not apply to all players? (Also everyone can view a ban/strike report but not everyone can view the reasons why he was demoted in this case) Once again I am attempting to see from both sides.

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They don't need to give us proof! They are a group of trustworthy admins, and they wouldn't make this stuff up.

Let me say what Swasses said in a recent ban report; everyone is human. And all humans have that small seed of corruption inside of them, and when that small seed starts to grow that person is changed.

Let's say Mog got away with yelling at some people over TS. nobody got into a fit about it. Then, he gave a few orcish pals some diamond items. Again, nobody says anything. He gradually learn he can get away with things, and keeps going up the ladder.

Everyone has their own definition of winning, and everyone wants to win. Wether it be good RP, items, a nation, we all have our terms for winning. Maybe Mog thought this would enhance his role-play, or maybe he wanted to see Oren or the orcs win. We will probably never know.

On the bright side, he can join the EX-GMAUTOEX-GM's.

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Have you even read the offences?

He was asking for proof that he did those things...

A admin got banned demoted for breaking numerous rules (Native listed all them). And everyone is saying 'Bring him back'? Why, that's not helping him. That's just blind following. Do you think Native and the Admin team would demote someone without evidence?

They don't need to give us proof! They are a group of trustworthy admins, and they wouldn't make this stuff up.

Alright, so first you tell us that we're blind following, then you go on to telling us that we should trust the Admins if they give us no proof? What you're telling us to do is blind following. Also, if we're talking about trusting the Admins, shouldn't we trust Mogroka? He was an Admin and if Admins are so flawless and never wrong, we're basically saying that Mogroka was flawless and never wrong.

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