✦ The Celestial Trust Presents ✦
Voices of Aevos is a series of interviews highlighting
mankind's artists, thinkers and luminaries.
Inny Yuln'aher I don't visit often enough.
Elizabeth Wittenbach Chambery's a relatively quiet town. Stuff happens around here, but it's usually pretty low profile. NGS meetings are the biggest debacles.
Inny Yuln'aher What good is meeting up, if you're not doing much afterwards? The Society's growth is visible, but it feels... stunted.
Elizabeth Wittenbach Aye, I know.
Inny Yuln'aher Don't depend on others, Miss Wittenbach. A wise leader leads by example. If you're doing something worth doing, people are bound to not want to miss out.
Elizabeth Wittenbach We gotta work on restoring our research branch. The NGS's age shows, I fear… Gotta work out a few things and overhaul 'em, bring some more commerce to Chambery as well.
But we'll be fine. Maybe our two organizations can do something together someday, in partnership?
James Vursur Isn't that what you're doing now?
Elizabeth Wittenbach: Well yes, but our members should get to know one another. I consider our organizations to be allies, in pursuit of similar goals though in different ways.
Inny Yuln'aher: Now wouldn't exactly work. I'm taking a break for the first time in a century. I have faith in what you all have here, Eliza. People come and go, places turn into ruins, but concepts? Exploration of the unknown? That will always remain.
Elizabeth Wittenbach: Not to worry, we'll still be around, I'm sure, I entirely understand that whole 'needing a break' thing. Those twenty years our organization went defunct was a much needed one for myself, and our other Trustees. We've been around for a century and three quarters now. I don't think I've long in this world myself, but we're on a good road back toward full restoration.
Inny Yuln'aher: You'd be surprised with what you can do if you give it your all. Don't worry, hon. You're slowly securing a legacy that will be cherished by countless souls. In fact. We have to talk about that big donation I seek to make, Jay. You promised a wing named after me, and a statue~!
James Vursur My recollection is that you promised the statue.
Elizabeth Wittenbach: Right- So uh, James. I assume you had some questions of us, for this interview of yours?
Inny Yuln'aher: I negotiated for the statue! What else would I donate for? The furthering of esoteric knowledge? Psh. Mm. Yeah yeah. Interview.
James Vursur The interview has already been going along very well. I want to capture as much as I can a natural conversation and the personalities of the people involved. How have you both found the investment in learning and the arts have been from national governments? Have they been interested in promoting culture and history?
Elizabeth Wittenbach Well, I think national governments certainly try, and I commend them for striving to do so. However, I have found that oftentimes the public sector fails to perform as well as the private sector does when it comes to engaging with the average man. In many cases, universities and state run museums will only have as much energy as a single prominent agent installed by the government. After said agent retires, these initiatives often fall to the wayside.
Inny Yuln'aher: Interest. There is always interest. People hope, but do not act. Passionate, truly dedicated souls are rare gems in this world. Always have been. The sectors are always leaderless and spread thin.
James Vursur It sounds like your focus should be on training agents and leaders.
Elizabeth Wittenbach Aye. And furthermore, I have found that private organizations tend to retain the loyalty of their members for far longer, and in a much better way. Entire families have supported the NGS for decades, for instance, and corps of new scholars and adventurers are trained to replace older ones. You don't get that with a government institution, because the government has a half dozen other different institutions for people to seek careers in. The military, foreign affairs, the courts… You get the idea.
James Vursur The people who join state education could just as easily be a prosecutor or a diplomat.
Elizabeth Wittenbach Aye. And the brightest minds within that professional talent pool, tend to go into those sectors rather than education or academics.
Inny Yuln'aher It entraps them. Getting bright minds caught up in all those Politics. Training has been my sole focus the past century. And yet. I have only found a handful of truly dedicated people. They come and go. Passion is a strong yet wavering fuel.
James Vursur Is it easier to be passionate about politics?
Inny Yuln'aher It is alluring. The power, the perks that come with it. She'd shrug. I don't blame anyone but the system itself. Politics bring more immediate results. Voting on matters, signing diplomatic agreements. Getting yourself a fancy manor for your service to the state. But I'll ask anyone: What do you want? And if they have any free will left they will tell me: Not this.
Elizabeth Wittenbach I couldn't have said it better myself. As a former Foreign Secretary and speaker of a legislative assembly myself, the allure is powerful. I had to grow out of that.
Inny Yuln'aher True foresight means doing what you must, even if the world screams for you to stop. While people are signing meaningless peace treaties, I will be cutting through the unknown for my people and my people's future.
Elizabeth Wittenbach My own philosophy is similar, but…- Different, in the slightest of ways.
Inny Yuln'aher By all means, Miss Wittenbach. It's a group interview~.
Elizabeth Wittenbach The NGS was founded by my mother in the aftermath of the Rubern War, you see, nearly two hundred years ago. It was humanity's longest lasting conflict at the time, and it cost many, many lives. The entire world was at each other's throats. So, as a young girl, my mom decided to dedicate her life to illuminating what she referred to as a 'fog' which creates misunderstanding between the descendant races, namely through the publishing of cultural studies and the establishment of museums. So I would say that we see ourselves as being supplementary to national governments, handling a service for the descendant peoples that often goes unattended to by the state. But not in service to state governments, but to all descendant peoples as a whole. The safeguarding of the world's heritage for all time, in a manner similar to that which Inny expressed.
Inny Yuln'aher
I don't think we're all that different, Miss Wittenbach. Independent, yet helping. That is what my College stands for. Yet. I have yet to find those who can use the Truths we find. Clearing up the Fog, at times, just allows someone to take the first strike. I, for one, wish for nations to be less demanding of their people's loyalty. They are all so desperate to keep them on a leash… Have you no experience with that yourself?
Elizabeth Wittenbach Aye, there is always a risk of that… But one has to have faith in the people at large, aye? We might not be able to change the minds of nation states, but one scholar, one bard, from among our ranks might go on to make a difference.
And aye, I have experienced such both personally and professionally. Such is why my organization is sworn to strict neutrality, though that neutrality has put us at odds with some at times.
It makes such- Quite difficult, when a state demands absolute and exclusive allegiance.
Inny Yuln'aher You are not neutral. You stand alongside knowledge.
Elizabeth Wittenbach An interesting point of view,
James Vursur Truth, Beauty, Goodness. Perhaps they're not neutral. Some people might not want those getting out.
Inny Yuln'aher Do I see you right, Eliza? I jest, but with these words I mean to show you: There is no such thing as true neutrality if we do not acknowledge ourselves first. We all have our views, our biases. A lens through which we see things. Your goal is knowledge. Lifting that fog. And to achieve that, you do take sides.
Elizabeth Wittenbach So we do. And those virtues are something that must always be defended, as well as the truth itself… Perhaps, in this, we are not neutral.
Inny Yuln'aher All of this is making me want to write the College's values down somewhere. That oughta attract similar minds, ne?
Elizabeth Wittenbach But we do not serve at the behest of a state, any state, in defense of these.
Inny Yuln'aher I can agree on that. Too much cost.
James Vursur I am certain we adopted a statement of purpose along with our constitution, but I've not been able to find it. Do you think that there are concrete policies these nations could adopt to better align themselves with beauty, goodness and truth- or at least to benefit knowledge and the arts among their people? If the departments of education aren't working because of the other options, what can be done?
Elizabeth Wittenbach I think most long standing nations have policies and values that they stand for, and many already have such policies in theory. Some of the world's largest libraries can be found in Haelun'or and Haense, for instance. However, the state proper often has its hands full. There are exceptions where an educational institution has stood the test of time and grown a dedicated core, such as with the dwarven Rememberancers or the Eternal Library, but this is difficult to accomplish. I believe- And this is just my own personal take, that organizations such as the NGS and the Bard's College can do a lot to fill in the gaps.
Inny Yuln'aher Exactly! What I tell them is what I tell every student of mine: If you are not giving it your all, then stop. Trying. There is a limit to what a single king, or hells- A whole court can worry about. Let the ones who are doing things right do more.
Elizabeth Wittenbach To supplement the spread of knowledge, and culture, and beauty to the peoples of the nations which they operate within.
Inny Yuln'aher I'm opening up College branches in Nor'asath and Norland soon, because I have passionate, trusted minds that can spread my teachings of artistry. And what do I face? Resistance. Problems. Norland's rulership is a mess. Nor'asath is scattered...
James Vursur It sounds like the best place for them to start is by mastering the art of governance.
Inny Yuln'aher
They're not doing anything wrong. The nations are still around, are they not? It is easy for us two to complain, when they're worrying about so much all at once.
Elizabeth Wittenbach We've plans to open up branches in Aaun and Haense soon enough, and hopefully within Talar'nor and Veletz and Balian as well someday. Our organization's goal is to open a museum in every major country in the world, even if it takes centuries to do. Although, we do have certain… Internal criteria that we follow as a litmus for where to establish a museum and when.
Inny Yuln'aher Now that is a goal worth living for. Though it has cost me my patience, I've seen improvement. Albeit slow. Norland, for instance, has accepted Bardmancy fully. And let me tell you. Getting magic within those walls is nothing short of an uphill battle.
Elizabeth Wittenbach It's ambitious, but it's always been the goal since my mother's time as President. In our prime, we maintained four museums across Almaris. We hope to someday achieve that level of outreach again.
James Vursur The approach seems to be something like panning for gold. You get out there enough, talk to enough people, some people will shine and stick with you. Those are the ones who make all the work worthwhile. Do you believe there's a way to turn the dross gold? Some alchemy to infuse people with passion?
Or is it simply the case that some people have it and others do not?
Elizabeth Wittenbach You've just gotta invest in people, really. If you encourage them, train them up, and show them their fullest potential you can create 'gold', as you put it, out of nothing. Some people are more naturally inclined, aye, but many of the people who've joined the NGS are not those who would have done well as servants of a nation state. All most out there need is a little bit of love.
Inny Yuln'aher Passionate people make passionate people. It is just very demanding to focus on people, when there are so many things to do alongside it. Leading is a juggle. I'm sure anyone who's tried it can relate.
James Vursur Perhaps with more focus on people some of the things can be handed off.
Elizabeth Wittenbach Aye, of course.
James Vursur Thank you, Eliza, and Inny. Do you have any closing thoughts for the readers?
Elizabeth Wittenbach Only that those seeking to join the Northern Geographical Society may read our pamphlet to learn more, and approach me at a weekly meeting at our flagship museum in Chambery, Petra should they seek to join our ranks. We would welcome all people of all races who are not tainted by the corruption of darkspawn and hold similar values to our own.
Inny Yuln'aher If you are reading this little interview. You care, and therefore you stand out. That is a good start for you to help us in our battle.