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[Archbishop John 85]

He looks at the laws in-front of him. as he grabs a glass of water and sips slowly then says out loud. 

 

"My First suggestions are." he starts listing them in order

 

Can. #. The reestablishment of the College of Bishops retaining the following powers. 

§1 The College of Bishops has the power to veto any decision made by the High Eccelsiarch if they all agree.

§2 The College of Bishops have the power to elect a High Eccelsiarch.

§3 The College of Bishops have the power to revoke the title of High Eccelsiarch if they see him unfit in the eyes of the Creator and they all must agree to this.

§4 The College of Bishops are the only ones able to change or write new Cannons laws.

Can. #. The High Ecclesiarch, cannot revoke the titles of Archbishops or Bishops without the approval of the majority of the College of Bishops.

Can. #. The High Eccelsiarch, cannot appoint Archbishops or Bishops without the approval of half of the College of Bishops.

Can. #. The High Eccelsiarch, cannot change cannon law without the full approval of the College of Bishops

Can. #. The High Eccelsiarch can revoke, and appoint prelates and exarch as he sees fit from existing clergymen. 

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[Castus 71]

The Archbishop Castus gestures for his scribe to take down notes of what Bishop John says, and then instructs him to make several edits. Castus then motions for the notes, and begins speaking, 

 

"I am concerned that requiring unanimous vote will result in much corruption and coercion by future clergy. For legal consistency, sustained virtue, and efficiency of function, I would suggest the amendment of the suggested canon laws in this manner,

 

Can. #. The reestablishment of the College of Bishops retaining the following powers. 

 

§1 The College of Bishops has the power to veto any decision made by the High Ecclesiarch if they are within a single vote of unanimity. 

§2 The College of Bishops has the power to elect a High Ecclesiarch.

§3 The College of Bishops has the power to revoke the title of High Ecclesiarch if they see him unfit in the eyes of the Creator and are within a single vote of unanimity.

§4 Only the College of Bishops has the vested power to change existing, or write new Canon law. 

 

Can. #. The High Ecclesiarch, cannot revoke the titles of Archbishops or Bishops without the approval of a significant majority of the College of Bishops, herein noted to be exceeding a proportion of 7 of 10. 

 

Can. #. The High Eccelsiarch, cannot appoint Archbishops or Bishops without there being approval of a simple majority of the College of Bishops.

 

Can. #. The High Eccelsiarch, cannot change canon law without there being approval within a single vote of unanimity within the College of Bishops.

 

Can. #. The High Eccelsiarch can revoke, and appoint prelates and exarchs as he sees fit from existing clergymen. 

 

Castus looks up from the amended notes,

 

"As you've heard, my suggested changes are primarily in regards to voting majorities necessary. I motion that we not require unanimous vote, as this will only slow ecclesiastic proceedings and create an opportunity for puppet clergy to be pushed to halt proceedings. A single vote from unanimity provides a similar breadth of approval, without the absolutism that will lead us to inefficiency. 

 

Similarly, I have made slight changes to the wording, which I feel will benefit the apprehension of the laws by ordinaries and future synods which must interpret them."

[Major Dom 1297]

Iosif speaks up.

 

"I agree with Archbishop Castus, requiring full unanimity appears good in theory, but in practice would promote corruption and bribery. A majority, exceeding seven-tenths, seems like a good compromise."

[Haribo 385]

Lucien II nods with agreement at the words that Bishop John says.

 

"I will take these changes into full consideration, but we still need to address other more prominent issues among the Church rather than just voting rights. Besides, we must have a scribe who will copy all of the approved down and properly write it in the current format the first book of Canon Law was created in. I personally believe the right to veto and revoke the High Ecclesiarch should be out of pure unanimity. As this signifies that every one of the senior clergy dislikes his opinion or wants him out of office. 

 

I would also put forward these changes:

 

Can. #. The Reestablishment of the Title of High Pontiff

 

i. The office of High Pontiff is created so as to create a universal head of the Faith and of the Church, his authority both spiritual and temporal, replacing the former position of High Ecclesiarch.

ii. The High Pontiff is the universal, elected and acknowledged head of the Faith - The disputing of this judgement is hereby a capital crime which may be penalized by exile or execution.

iii. The High Pontiff and his institution, the Church, are subject solely to the authority of God and to no mortal or divine mortal.

iv. The High Pontiff is declared the vicar of God.

v. The office of High Pontiff is to be elected by the College of Bishops.

vi. The office of High Pontiff is intrinsically linked with that of Archbishop of Renatus - only the Archbishop of Renatus may serve in the position.

vii. Upon taking the office of High Pontiff, the titleholder must choose their name from among the saints or among a former High Pontiff. They will retain that name until death. If they choose to resign they will be known as High Pontiff -their name- Emeritus.

viii. The High Pontiff is responsible for crowning both the King of Renatus and the Emperor of Man. For future coronations, in the absence of a coronation performed by the High Pontiff, an individual’s kingship is rendered legally invalid.

ix. The High Pontiff and by extension the Church of the One True Faith owes allegiance to and is beholden to no faction and no individual but God.

 

In that being we should reform the bulls so that they can be promulgated with laws that actually can make a difference in the world we live in.

 

The scribe writes these down as changes to be contemplated and mayhap typed into proper format into canon law.

[LPT 771]

Maxmillion Greymane rushes into the room, his face sweat read as sweat drips from him. "I'm quite late. Forgive me. I had some confesions wanted done.

[Archbishop John 85]

No let us not reestablish the High Pontiff as a new seat, but rename the title it self which means it retains its powers that where made by the former head of the faith and the Emperor.

 

Can. #. The reestablishment of the College of Bishops retaining the following powers. 

 

§1 The College of Bishops has the power to veto any decision made by the High Ecclesiarch if they are within a single vote of unanimity. 

§2 The College of Bishops has the power to elect a High Ecclesiarch.

§3 The College of Bishops has the power to revoke the title of High Ecclesiarch if they see him unfit in the eyes of the Creator and are within a single vote of unanimity.

§4 Only the College of Bishops has the vested power to change existing, or write new Canon law. 

 

Can. #. The High Ecclesiarch, cannot revoke the titles of Archbishops or Bishops without the approval of a significant majority of the College of Bishops, herein noted to be exceeding a proportion of 7 of 10. 

 

Can. #. The High Eccelsiarch, cannot appoint Archbishops or Bishops without there being approval of a simple majority of the College of Bishops.

 

Can. #. The High Eccelsiarch, cannot change canon law without there being approval within a single vote of unanimity within the College of Bishops.

 

Can. #. The High Eccelsiarch can revoke, and appoint prelates and exarchs as he sees fit from existing clergymen. 

 

Can. #. The Renameing of the Title of High Ecclesiarch to the High Pontiff

 

Can. #. The High Pontiff retains these powers from the renamed High Eccesiarch title which where laws and powers accepted by the Former High Eccesiarch and Emperor Sigumand Carrion.

 

i. The office of High Pontiff is created so as to create a universal head of the Faith and of the Church, his authority both spiritual and temporal, replacing the former position of High Ecclesiarch.

ii. The High Pontiff is the universal, elected and acknowledged head of the Faith - The disputing of this judgement is hereby a capital crime which may be penalized by exile or execution.

iii. The High Pontiff and his institution, the Church, are subject solely to the authority of God and to no mortal or divine mortal.

iv. The High Pontiff is declared the vicar of God.

v. The office of High Pontiff is to be elected by the College of Bishops.

vi. The office of High Pontiff is intrinsically linked with that of Archbishop of Renatus - only the Archbishop of Renatus may serve in the position.

vii. Upon taking the office of High Pontiff, the titleholder must choose their name from among the saints or among a former High Pontiff. They will retain that name until death. If they choose to resign they will be known as High Pontiff -their name- Emeritus.

viii. The High Pontiff is responsible for crowning both the King of Renatus and the Emperor of Man. For future coronations, in the absence of a coronation performed by the High Pontiff, an individual’s kingship is rendered legally invalid.

ix. The High Pontiff and by extension the Church of the One True Faith owes allegiance to and is beholden to no faction and no individual but God.

[3andD 1722]

"No. Owyn abolished the position. There is no reason to bring back the pontificate. Nor are you deserving of the title which carries such prestige."

The monk nods, "Bishop John is right; however lest us not change the name. Also, Ostromir forged the Church with Franz, Siegmund never accepted the supremacy of the church and swore no oath to the Creator."

[Haribo 385]

Lucien II nods with agreement at Bishop John's words, thinking that would be a far easier alternative than rewriting the whole title. The priest in white is a little puzzled at the monk's words, not sure if he actually listened to what Bishop John said.

[Major Dom 1297]

"I believe we very much need to set out some official rites. Baptismal rites, confessional, matrimonial, funeral, et cetera."

[owyn 0]

=)

[Castus 71]

"I believe we very much need to set out some official rites. Baptismal rites, confessional, matrimonial, funeral, et cetera."

Castus nods, having just conducted a marriage ceremony.

[Haribo 385]

By order of High Pontiff Lucien II, cans of Edge B' Gone are hereby approved by the church.

 

Deus Magnus!

[Major Dom 1297]

I motion to deem the 'Holy Order of the Silver Gauntlet' to be false and heretical, for committing the following three violations against the Creator and His Holy Church.

 

I. Claiming the Order to be from God and by God, without consent or consultation of the Church of the One True Faith.

II. Creating a new religious sect and orthodoxy without consent or consultation of the Church of the One True Faith.

III. Stating intent to remove the Church-backed Carrion rule from Human lands.

 

Iosif Leon "Golden Pipes" Flay-Ruthern, Metropolitan of Kralta

[Haribo 385]

Lucien II nods as the bishop brings forth the motion.

 

"I agree with this motion, I second it."

 

Lucien glances over to the other bishops. Needing 1 more bishop to push forward the motion.