[Proposal] Modernization Of The Human Subraces

[Aedan The Bard 350]

Adunians are doing they're own thing, so I agree with being left out. We've got our own culture, and pretty much work as a separate race.

[Goldd 126]

I am glad you put Auvergnian with the city folk, because even though we do enjoy our villas, we don't tend to hang around the rural areas too much. Good job with this post!

[Elindor 666]

If that many cultures is the case the only playable races to be put on your card should be "Human" and then "Adunian" "Easterner" and "Halfling". You can't have that many options in the race choices. Its too much for a new player to make that choice while they're unconscious on the ground in the persona interface.

[Temp 2006]

Honestly, I would argue that Kaedreni isn't a culture over a particular mindset present across multiple cultures. Basically a tradition across the various culture binding them to militant service and loyalties, sort of like taking oaths. You won't really find solid examples or a thread on 'Kaedreni culture.'

[yopplwasupxxx 5946]

I support this wholeheartedly, except Adunians are more like Bretons from the elder scrolls the way I see them. They have elven blood in their ancestry but are predominantly human in appearance, thus making them an official human subrace. They would fit under Acrebound Imo.

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Basically this. About 80% of Adunian players I know live in Oren, a good portion of them in the OSL. The Lordship/independent whatever is make of like three people. Plus Adunians only have 1/8-1/4 amount of Wood Elven blood, they aren't 'half-elves'. As to what Owl_7 said about the Adunians in the lore:

 

[Disclaimer: The Adunia are a human subrace with part wood elven blood, first formed by Axlrose4078 and myself in late January 2012. Though the raw idea of the Adunia was created by Axlrose, all of the lore was created and written by myself. The exception to this is the religion lore, which is entirely by IlumTarus]

"Human subrace." Adunians aren't their own race, they are a subrace under the humans. But thats just my 2 cents from an Adunian player.

[Aetosion 2062]

This is notably incomplete. House Winter since Aegis has been playing as a "Northern(or/er)s". Ours, along with other houses mostly defunct (like House Green) and the more modern groups (like House Blackwell), comprise a group colloquially referred to as "Aegisian Northerners". Before the rise of Hansetian culture on the heels of the rise of the Realm of Hanseti, Northerners began to diversify. 

 

The Northern culture in which mine and other houses and their vassals and commonfolk are participant is closer to an old English, Scottish, or civilized Norse culture depending upon the individual. Hansetian culture has emerged distinct alongside this, as have the Adunians, the Brists, and the Raevirs. However, the core "Northerner" remains a legitimate and actively played subrace.

 

(For some additional information: http://www.lordofthecraft.net/topic/79039-on-northerners-and-southerons/)

 

Cracker's Highlander idea may or may not fulfill this need.

[Stevie 1598]

I like Kaedreni culture where it is. But as Temp said, there's not much there really is to "Kaedreni" culture. Based on what we have, it's more or less just a military-oriented society with an emphasis on merit. 

 

As one of the few founders of Kaedrin itself, we are working on an actual culture post. If anyone would like to shoot any ideas for it, send me a PM.

 

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[PtahWithin 1320]

'Acrebound' has been tentatively renamed to Highlander. Please continue providing suggestions if you think there can be a better name.

 

Adunians shall be moved under the Highlander group, and the Northerner culture has been added to there as well.

 

Whoever is writing the Kaedreni lore: would you rather have that culture grouped under Heartlander or Highlander?

 

I still need confirmation on the placement of the Auvergnian culture from whoever controls it.

 

Should the Salvians be added?

 

Lastly, I am having some trouble categorizing the Southerons as I described in the main post. Where do you all think they should go?

[Stevie 1598]

I think Salvians should be added as part of the Heartlander group, with Illatians as a splinter from the Salvian branch itself. To me, Salvians have always been the more interactive and enjoyable "Italians" of the server, and they are easier to relate to than this fairly new Illatian culture.

 

As for Kaedreni culture, I think it's fine in the Highlander group. Kaedrin in Anthos was a very rural place. And we've concluded that the most accurate portrayal of a Kaedreni man would be a rural Englishmen with a high sense of nationalism.

 

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[Chaqery 427]

As the author of the linked Auvergnian culture thread, I would agree to Auvergnian being a Heartlander culture. While open land and fields for farming and horses are very typical, Auvergnians possess a generally bourgeois attitude.

 

-Like France, which has areas that are solely agricultural, while their overarching culture is more urban or town-based.

[Aedan The Bard 350]

Adunians were created by Owl, IlumTarus, and some others, but not by Axlrose singlehandedly.
On another note, Adunians don't really qualify as Highlanders. They had some highlander lore to them, but it depended on the clans you were talking about. Adunians are, currently, a combination of celtic and anglo-saxon cultures. They're not Highlanders, they're Lowlanders.

 

The Armas and Douglas clans have a tendency to norse traditions, because of their focus around combat, as clans of warriors and riders. The Elendil, on the other hand, are more Anglo-Saxon than most other clans. The kilts were the result of what most of us call "The Scottish Fever", which also introduced a lot of gaelic and highlander lore. However, the current Adunian lore is being cleansed in-character, abandoning kilts, but keeping hide and fur coats showing each clan's tartans in the case of the Campbell, Armas, Douglas and Brae, as far as I can tell.

[John Ivory 4547]

I am bumping this, I would very much like to see it implemented.

[Lago 2572]

Can you also send me a link to the Raevir lore?

 

There is no Raevir lore, they simply developed IC, which IMO is how it should be.

 

Human subraces are very, very diverse, making it difficult to lock them into three. Personally I'm wondering if it would be better to have just one plugin race (human) and then humans have the ability to ask a GM to change it to [Culturename] Human.

[_pok_ 1768]

I've always associated Salvus with Southerons, although their skin color may be different.

 

 

I'd like to see more extensive lore written for these two and I'd be happy to work with other players on it.

[TheBareSheet 194]

Moved to the Great Library. It shall be sorted into appropriate category shortly.