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This war either way gets GMs accused of their innocence lol. There is no point in ending the war ooc'ly because we want to continue. But, we cant make any progress with these consensual war rules. I might edit the post and make a vote on it perhaps. 

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War is only a cowardly escape from the problems of peace.
Right?

 


Like any war in any game, in any reality or not war is mostly bad for both parts and I have my doubts that lord of the craft is any different in regards to conflict and war. Here I can imagine that it would simply cause people to quit their persona and then rage out of character, are we not here to role-play together rather than to find out who is the strongest man or woman?
Seems like this conflict is an out of character fame and glory hunt instead of something contributing to role-play.
The parties involved doesn't seem to be mature and willing enough to make war something contributing other than fighting, so they just keep and fighting cause it's fun. Good things can come from the aftermath of war. Technology, new alliances, wealth (Surely even more things.)and in terms of this server, role-play. The death of a few, some might find love..I mean there are so much things that can happen, if only allowed for. 

 

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We just need to make a warclaim so both sides can have there whole forces available for a battle, because for example.. Last night the dwarves had a skirmish with the humans but 60% of the dwarves where asleep as it was like 2 am GMT. 

 

Also you guys are all saying the dwarves have denied a warclaim? But I see no attempt at the humans making a warclaim against the dwarves they've just talked **** on the forums assuming that they wouldn't. I don't get it? People are bitching that the dwarves won't accept a war claim but no one has written one?

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No ones denied any warclaims as far as I know, being in the Teutonic order, I am actually pretty sure most people want a warclaim...I think we were even talking about it last night. Its more along the fact that Oren (Its k, still love you oren) assumes we'll just say no right away! 

TO Isn't the Dwarves. Early WCs were denied due to the fact that we didn't want to allow underground hidey-hole usage. Who the hell wants to attend a fight that involves a group sitting underground on youtube for two hours? Not a soul.

 

 

 

War is only a cowardly escape from the problems of peace.

Right?

 

Like any war in any game, in any reality or not war is mostly bad for both parts and I have my doubts that lord of the craft is any different in regards to conflict and war. Here I can imagine that it would simply cause people to quit their persona and then rage out of character, are we not here to role-play together rather than to find out who is the strongest man or woman?

Seems like this conflict is an out of character fame and glory hunt instead of something contributing to role-play.

The parties involved doesn't seem to be mature and willing enough to make war something contributing other than fighting, so they just keep and fighting cause it's fun. Good things can come from the aftermath of war. Technology, new alliances, wealth (Surely even more things.)and in terms of this server, role-play. The death of a few, some might find love..I mean there are so much things that can happen, if only allowed for. 

 

 

This actually made me chuckle. Out of character 'Glory and Fame.' What in the hell are you talking about? The war is IC reaction to IC provocations. We just attempted diplomacy and breathing room for a group that lost it's crown. They denied the efforts and as such, war continues. You're taking pixels way too seriously, dude.

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Bring back TNT

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Honestly I see this war everywhere, it's time both sides came together and made a plan for a final end to this war. Everyone that I have spoken to is just sick of it. Not to mention the fact its causing a ton of ooc tension between both parties. Even reading some of these responses you can tell both groups are aggravated. So please for the health of the server come together and find a way to end the conflict.

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I want this war to end as well, it just seems like an excuse to PVP. Sorry friends but it's true. Humans need to agree to peace or the dwarves need to take the war claim and just let it end. 

 

I know the staff is getting sick of handling it, any time a GM steps in bais is called. Hard to moderate that way but hey... no one said being a GM would help you make friends ;) 

 

Then let us warclaim it :)

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I want this war to end as well, it just seems like an excuse to PVP. Sorry friends but it's true. Humans need to agree to peace or the dwarves need to take the war claim and just let it end. 

 

I know the staff is getting sick of handling it, any time a GM steps in bais is called. Hard to moderate that way but hey... no one said being a GM would help you make friends ;) 

 

Is there a link to the warclaim the humans made that the dwarves denied?

ohwait

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Humans dont want to warclaim a underground fort, seems like its a ic problem to be solved ic?

Jk

Idk how to fix it for both sides to be happy. Dwarves wont fight open field battles and dont want an above ground fort like Thoringrad cause of the ground nukes that happen from trebs. I think is was a great idea for dwarves to make underground forts, make them very hard to attack, ic problem. I say allow no bridge traps and see how it goes from there,

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Humans dont want to warclaim a underground fort, seems like its a ic problem to be solved ic?

Jk

Idk how to fix it for both sides to be happy. Dwarves wont fight open field battles and dont want an above ground fort like Thoringrad cause of the ground nukes that happen from trebs. I think is was a great idea for dwarves to make underground forts, make them very hard to attack, ic problem. I say allow no bridge traps and see how it goes from there,

 

despricteon+-+damn+it+-+despriction.+Is+

 

mfw I have to go through an underground maze of pitfall traps, lava traps, water traps, ankle biters, murder holes, etc. If we were allowed to break blocks and remove protection it would be fine but without that it's absurd and unwinnable.

 

If we're going to go with the 'ic problem' card, I have a problem that dwarves can oocly build massive underground fortresses without any cave ins, or ventilation. Get out of those dank ass caves and fight face to face pls.

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Is there a link to the warclaim the humans made that the dwarves denied?

ohwait

War is consensual. Talking goes on behind the scenes more than they do right in front of everyone else. Sorry you're not important enough to get all the quotes.

Keeptalkinshit

 

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Plugin trebs fixes the Strategic Missile Launchers that GM trebs tend to become.

 

I still think if the dwarves are denying a warclaim the humans should post it publically so that denial is dragged into the light.

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Honestly, just write a warclaim for the Mouth of Dungrimm. It's an important landmark that is aboveground. Just end this already. A rule should be added for it that if one side cannot remove the forces on the territory for a certain amount of time, the side that occupies the territory wins. Thus, dwarves can't hide in underground forts and a proper battle ensues. Everybody is happy!

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Plugin trebs fixes the Strategic Missile Launchers that GM trebs tend to become.

 

I still think if the dwarves are denying a warclaim the humans should post it publically so that denial is dragged into the light.

We've been pushing at this a bit. As much as I could say, 'I have a rank in the Imperial Army,' I'm not the Emperor. As such, it's not my place to OK and push through a WC. Sheumgal will have it handled.

Just a matter of when, to be blunt.

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