Administration Changes

[LPT 771]

Cappy is a walking, talking rule book. I sometimes wish that was not the case and I wanted a GM who may be willing to bend the rules for a bit of fun, but regardless he does his job.  I feel as though an Admin position fits Cappy much better than a GM one anyways.

[River 555]

 

 If you can't accept that, than I kindly remind you that the door is available to you at all times and you are perfectly welcome to find another server or community that does work like that.

It almost seems as though the staff is slowly encouraging the players to do exactly that. I don't know why I bother to protest, or offer my feedback on forums, when across my entire time on the server, or forums, the staff has never once really listened to it's playerbase.

 

Like the others that have realized that arguing on the forums is meaningless given the lack of interest the admins have in the players. Like Galendar said, they want to make what they want, regardless of our input. Just as he said, I disapprove, and might take what Alan said as a challenge.

[Viper3X 1056]

Wasn't Kai suppost to remove cappy.

 

Also great wording Viper, it makes it seem like we have no choice what so ever.  You really should be more careful, its making alot of people restless.

Perhaps instead of talking about it behind closed doors said players should bring their concerns to me so that I may correct my mistakes or alleged wrongdoings? Seriously, I'm not the enemy here. If you want me to change the way I do things (or in this case word things), ask away.

 

I don't really have anything to say about Cappy.

 

But why was Gaius not given an Admin position? He clearly deserved it and had pages upon pages of support in his bid for head admin. Did the Administrators just forget about that?

I gave Gaius a chance by allowing him to assist with the Undead. Unfortunately for him, he dropped it after just a couple of weeks. Was the hate/workload too much for him or did he lose interest? Either way, I'm glad we didn't promote him to Lead Dev based on the results of my test.

 

 

 

I don't know why I bother to protest, or offer my feedback on forums, when across my entire time on the server, or forums, the staff has never once really listened to it's playerbase.

 

Like the others that have realized that arguing on the forums is meaningless given the lack of interest the admins have in the players.

 

Oh, how I love posts like these. It's for this exact reason that we discredit these kinds of posts. Since I returned, I have done my best to include the players in many game-changing decisions. Look at Nexus-Regions, for example. I spent a good two weeks at the least gathering feedback and getting a feel for the playerbase's stance on it. However, before jumping the gun and removing it completely, we wanted to test the waters first with a few adjustments. I can't speak for the rest of the administration, but I have been listening to the players. I am not perfect, and I certainly make mistakes, but I am always willing to correct them and right my wrongs.

[Narthok 10416]

 

 

It almost seems as though the staff is slowly encouraging the players to do exactly that. I don't know why I bother to protest, or offer my feedback on forums, when across my entire time on the server, or forums, the staff has never once really listened to it's playerbase.

 

Like the others that have realized that arguing on the forums is meaningless given the lack of interest the admins have in the players. Like Galendar said, they want to make what they want, regardless of our input. Just as he said, I disapprove, and might take what Alan said as a challenge.

 

Hush from what i've seen from Viper3x he is working hard as **** to try and listen to player input. Be thankful that there is finally some visible admin activity for the once.

[Nug 2011]

wooOOoOO!

[Guest]

[chaotikal 2392]

I've never really talked to cappy more than a few modreqs, but his explanations and motives were always very illogical and seemed to jump to an argument all the time. I don't like this decision, and I don't think a person who cannot communicate properly and kindly to players is good to be part of an admin team. Hate on me, I have my own opinion, it is not flaming.

[chaotikal 2392]

Perhaps instead of talking about it behind closed doors said players should bring their concerns to me 

 

 

 

Sorry that I have to be the one to say it, but this isn't a democracy. It's not up to the players who become staff members, and it's certainly not up to the players who become Admins. The Administration's decision in promoting Cappy was unanimous, and we were the ones to decide because we are the ones who know what it takes to be an Admin, what one needs to help us advance the server. Agree or disagree, that is how it is, that is how it has always been, and that is how it always will be. If you can't accept that, than I kindly remind you that the door is available to you at all times and you are perfectly welcome to find another server or community that does work like that.

 

 

 

 

And then you thought the admin team listened to you. We have a facade here. Lots of people have commented against cappy, we are VOICING our opinions, and then alan comes and says "Yeah but we don't care, we know what the server needs." Even though you say the players should be involved in the decisions. This is highly stupid and very, very prooving of what the admin team really is. The underbelly of liars, I am sorry to say. I feel lied to, and manipulated with.

[Ser Paul Ryan 1139]

Thank you for all of the support friends I will continue to contribute to the community and look forward to serving as your next administrator! 

[bickando 3967]

I'm not sure how much say individual players like me should have in motions like an administration change, but it appears to be an incorrect one in this instance. While it's true that bans were handed out much more freely in Aegis, it must be remembered that the general consensus has changed, and that it would be prudent for the administration to change as well. Therefore, in the interest of keeping an LotC that has players, a few realizations have to be put forth. I use big words because I've been taught to type in such a manner, so my apologies beforehand.

 

1) We live in a modern society.

 

 

 

It's true that we're not a democracy; administration of online subjects by a relatively small, intelligent group has always been necessary. The problem with what the leadership of this server has been doing, however, is its neglect to pre-inform the population of the server and instead put ideas into motion when it hits a consensus. It is true that you read ideas by the players and act on them; the problem is that the pool you look at may be comparatively incorrect. At the same time, it should be put forth that it is the playerbase that powers the server - Since we're all in LotC for the same fun, why can it, should it be thrown around? We don't live in the fantasy our characters do - sadly, harshly, we live in the cutthroat modern world of generally equal say. So on the topic of the LotC player community and administration, communication is really the largest block from good, friendly relations. Players don't want to hear "We know what's best", for that is what a child is told, players want to be told "We hear you and will try to change for the better".

 

2) Appointments

 

The ideal circumstance would be to have a GM that the players and administration both love. One that is active, helpful, and follows the rules. In this regard, I believe that the administration may have chosen the wrong choice - Cappy has old-LotC points, and that serves to recall the Aegis/early-Asulon style of hard application and jump bans, but the current community requires people that are ready and willing to help - people like Viper and Tythus, that communicate with at least a portion of the players. The problem with Cappy is that the only time people have seen him is when he doesn't respond intuitively to mod requests and when he's handing out bans or passes. He's unable to find possible in-betweens for the players, and while that was incredibly effective in Aegis, it is no longer as potent.

 

3) Communication

 

I touched up on this in the first point, but there's a vital problem with the Administration-Player relationship - that of its communication. While every so often a post is made in the support thread, they're often closed before players take note, and new threads are instantly dismissed. For this I'd recommend something that may or may not be approved of - a system that would require that the administration message active players from multiple communities and ask them to give weekly reports on that community's ideas and concerns. It's a lot more work, certainly, and these players would have to be kept quiet so that they're not targeted for an inability to give results, but it would contribute to a better understanding. At the same time, players would like, and some almost require, prior knowledge to updates before they happen. One instance of an incredibly popular idea was shiftnative's new map update journals, in which he read posts by players and changed the map before it came out so that people would be more prone to liking the map, which many of us have indeed been fans of.

 

While I may have missed updates by the teams on some of these points, and while players don't really need a say in how things are handled for the server to continue to run, it should be made clear that the players need to be listened to.

[Viper3X 1056]

And then you thought the admin team listened to you. We have a facade here. Lots of people have commented against cappy, we are VOICING our opinions, and then alan comes and says "Yeah but we don't care, we know what the server needs." Even though you say the players should be involved in the decisions. This is highly stupid and very, very prooving of what the admin team really is. The underbelly of liars, I am sorry to say. I feel lied to, and manipulated with.

I can't even respond to this in a professional manner. The amount of personal bias in your post is unbearable.

[DrakeHaze. 2524]

Everyone please refer to the video in my signature. Watch it about 20 times maybe and then stop being keyboard warriors. Y'all care more about the happenings in this server than pre-teen girls care for boy bands. Chillax, light up and enjoy whatever time you want to invest onto a fantasy block server, instead of wasting that time doing whatever y'all are doing on this thread.

RIP Roggvir.

[EndlessWord 10]

The Cappy Gif's Are Coming!!!

[chaotikal 2392]

I can't even respond to this in a professional manner. The amount of personal bias in your post is unbearable.

I have shared no personal bias. Nor I do for Alan, for whom I have a deep respect, but the fact that two administrators have said two contrasts on the same matter is simply too angering to watch. I have quoted both texts, and I have taken nothing out of context. Yes, lots of people say cappy's good, they problably know him better, but lots are also saying he is not good. I have said I do not know him enough to know much about him, only meeting him, I hope, in his rough angry days, so like I said, I won't voice an opinion, but what has caught my attention is simply the receed in words... If the players have no decision, like Alan said, why'd you say we do?

[Viper3X 1056]

I have shared no personal bias. Nor I do for Alan, for whom I have a deep respect, but the fact that two administrators have said two contrasts on the same matter is simply too angering to watch. I have quoted both texts, and I have taken nothing out of context. Yes, lots of people say cappy's good, they problably know him better, but lots are also saying he is not good. I have said I do not know him enough to know much about him, only meeting him, I hope, in his rough angry days, so like I said, I won't voice an opinion, but what has caught my attention is simply the receed in words... If the players have no decision, like Alan said, why'd you say we do?

I said that if players have problems regarding abuse, that they should bring said concerns to me. Alan said that if we feel we should promote a certain administrator, we will promote them. We knew there was going to be backlash for Cappy's promotion, and Cappy knew it too. When you claim that the admin team is composed of liars and manipulators, that really irks me. I do not lie to the community, and I am in no way trying to manipulate any of you. A better word would have been "contradicting stances", although as I explained earlier, this is not the case.