A small change in War Rules

[Narthok 10416]

Just now, DPM said:

 

7/10 of your guys dropped prot 1 set's, 2 of us didn't even have prot and had below 50+ weapons. It's not our fault they couldn't beat us. If anything they outmatched us in gear.

The fact remains that a small unit of people from your faction are capable of defeating larger numbers of settlement residents. Requiring constant high levels of activity from a settlement because of the constant threat of raids.

[Sultan 3953]

19 minutes ago, Ioannis said:

Capping raid at 1 per 48 with only 4 raiders. I mean thats already dumb enough. Adding signs now? Well dudes just remove the ******* pvp since you dislike it so us the pvpers can find another server to play since we are rather disliked here.

 

(Not to mention that people who enjoy pvping are usualy ending up banned for silly reasons.)

 

This has already been a rule during raids for months now, nothing has changed except the modreq so the gm can place the sign. Instead of a settlement placing one.

[Kaldwin_ 241]

25 minutes ago, Narthok said:

Personally I think raids should be abolished entirely and replaced with 18 year war style trenches, with both factions agreeing upon a battle time. There is nothing more frustrating that finding out you got raided at 4:30 in the morning. Additionally raids on settlements constantly disprupt and attempts at rp and population building. If a side doesn't show up, or if a side loses the battle for that day then there is a concequence, loss of territory, front lines, items doesn't really matter. There is nothing more frustrating than being asked by your people 18 times a day when the fighting is going to happen and being unable to tell them. Disbanding a big rally then having to rally again literally 5 minutes later is incredibly irritating as it has massively gouged into drilling time, construction, recruiting ecetera. A cemented universally agreed upon warzone with a designated combat time is infinitely preferable to these deep raids at odd hours where individuals are picked off as they are trying to do work.

lol, thanks for giving me a good laugh bro

[Narthok 10416]

7 minutes ago, Destroyer_Bravo said:

 

Just because your boys get dogged in a 4vX doesn't mean anything is wrong with any systems. It means you need to train your boys in PVP, in my opinion. Orcs do fine at repelling "raids" of much larger parties than 4.

training at pvp on an rp server? Also orcs have a massive damage buff but that is a different matter. My primary issue is the general disruption of roleplay in the settlement. Ideally both sides could sit down and hammer out a compromise that would benefit boh parties.

[Aesopian 1639]

Though I am eternally vengeful that the Flays prevented me from [unnecessary expletive]...

 

they are correct. Four people is extremely small for a raiding party, and the minimum number should be at least seven or eight. 

 

If we really want to see roleplay impact PVP, 1) a training system MUST be implemented, 2) a skill reset must take place. If you really want to see roleplay impact PVP, adding a 'combat' training component to that aforementioned training system, which grants some amount of bonus damage or resistance to damage, could be accomplished.

 

By 2), I do not mean we should necessarily lose all our exp forever, just have it temporarily lost. We are in desperate need of proper prestige ranks for skills (as it stands, Daemonic is demonstrably better than Aengulic in a number of ways, same deal with Aengulic and Legendary). If we actually had them, then once we hit the skill cap, granting all our old exp back would be fine.

 

However, as it stands, A TRAINING SYSTEM WILL NEVER BE IMPLEMENTED. There is an enormous disconnect between the developers/coders and the community, and many of the features we desperately are in need of will never be considered or even pursued. So, if you really think this is fine: POKE TELANIR REPEATEDLY UNTIL HIS SPEAKERS BLOW OUT. This is the only solution I can think of. 

 

 

[Hanrahan 2983]

Goodness me.

 

"UR FUKIN **** TRAIN UR BOIZ BETTER AT PVP"

 

This, lest I recall was an RP server, and the point of LOTC is to have an enjoyable RP experience.

 

I don't believe training damn near 24/7 in PVP to defend against a faction of people who take part in almost no RP, grinding to get the best of the best of the best gear on the server and play on other PVP servers compulsively lends their hand at 'Improving RP and player experience on the server'.

 

So, I do take these changes quite happily! :D

[The Real Burger 20]

I don't think you can ever make raiding fair for both sides however, maybe by making only places on the border of nations able to be raided? Atleast then the people on those borders would be aware of the risks when they take that land.

[Lego XBOX 915]

Lets keep this discussion civil. If you are just going to attack each-other I will be handing out warns.

[mmat 7460]

What is this systems management ****? You're not an IT consultancy

 

These pretentious role titles are getting out of hand.

[cruzazul 2815]

32 minutes ago, iMattyz said:

What is this systems management ****? You're not an IT consultancy

 

These pretentious role titles are getting out of hand.

^ this

why these positions were created is beyond me. Why can't we just have Gms work on the betterment of the server without having to dish out useless titles? 

[Destroyer_Bravo 1054]

LotC has never been purely an Rp server, so calling it as such would be false. PvP has always been a large factor inside of LotC.

 

nobody seems to remember that... ntm u can totally train boys in rp as well as pvp, I did it with dwarves in 3.0.

[Fireheart 2777]

4 hours ago, iMattyz said:

What is this systems management ****? You're not an IT consultancy

 

These pretentious role titles are getting out of hand.

 

4 hours ago, Cruz © said:

^ this

why these positions were created is beyond me. Why can't we just have Gms work on the betterment of the server without having to dish out useless titles? 

Please refer to the update Dan gave some time ago regarding a shift in roles and specializations. This management system has been around for quite sometime dating back all the way to January. The difference being the title which was War Management.