The Freelands

[Jonificus 2741]

@Croleo676 You're a nice guy alright. Chill lad. But all these trial periods are nonsensical. Especially for something like this when we're moving maps in the near future (october would be a close guess). Just for once assume that us players actually have something worthwhile to say, and trust us when we say that this will do more harm than good. 

[Malgonious 2758]

From my experience of the literal cancer free-build areas north of Aesterwald, holy **** please dont.  This is the worst thing I've seen a GM instate in a long ass time, and I was around for the installment of 1.9 pvp

[Gridlock 1033]

As long as this is just a **** it map's ending anyway idea, it's fine. If this is gonna be a thing next map I'm going to riot.

[Jonificus 2741]

1 minute ago, Freya  said:

 

If a nation capital can't give people a reason to live in their city instead of the middle of the rat's ass of nowhere then that's the city's failing, not the freebuilds.

Was just an example. Doesn't have to be a nation capital either (as the former grand mayor of felsen I can guarantee that the city was active AF :-DD) just about any settlement should pull their weight. Freebuilds are like 80% of the time awful wooden cubes with ridiculous dimensions and the other 20% are abandoned half-finished villages with some semblance of a common architecture. Dont waste our immersion on this crap.... Make remove of freebuild or face my deep sigh of the kind of disappointment that a father would emit after finding his underage son's dopestash in the form of a rambling rant that I'll tag as feedback. This aint no threat, its a promise.

[Sky 0]

All cool now, but lets not ruin 5.0 with the wilds. It's a good idea on paper, but never set out right, and I know that you know, Ever, it's always failed and ended up looking like trash, I know you know this because many times both you and Freya had to clean up the wilds in Anthos. It's not changed since then, people will still leave shitty half-built buildings, landscar it to hell, and have monstrosities littered around.

[Neri 3590]

Just now, Sky said:

All cool now, but lets not ruin 5.0 with the wilds. It's a good idea on paper, but never set out right, and I know that you know, Ever, it's always failed and ended up looking like trash, I know you know this because many times both you and Freya had to clean up the wilds in Anthos. It's not changed since then, people will still leave shitty half-built buildings, landscar it to hell, and have monstrosities littered around.

 

Don't state my opinion for me. I loved the wilds and it brought MUCH more good than harm. I thought it was a much better idea than the ******* sterile resource island we have now which literally has RP banned on it. Gods above, people are so scared of having their eyes offended by a slightly bad build that they wish to completely amputate part of what made LOTC originally so good.

[Dreek 1633]

The feedback group of 40 odd people have a summary of thoughts on the general spread of rp and the effect of the cloud temple. I think it would heavily tie in to this discussion/debate on the free build idea.

 

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KVBSv-PucAUO3zpeuRJfaYJNPZ0vvji1ULhqNetgGSA/edit

[Archbishop 1784]

Just now, Freya  said:

I thought it was a much better idea than the ******* sterile resource island we have now which literally has RP banned on it.

Yea and staff thought bringing back VA's would be much better then radom bandits but look how that turned out, why is it the staff or ex-staff who implemented something tend to believe its for the benefit of the server even though the people on the server dislike it?

[Neri 3590]

Just now, Adam_barnett said:

Yea and staff thought bringing back VA's would be much better then radom bandits but look how that turned out, why is it the staff or ex-staff who implemented something tend to believe its for the benefit of the server even though the people on the server dislike it?

 

You're seeing this in a very 2d way (from all your posts it's rather obvious you're jaded towards anything the staff do). The main reason why the VA reintroduction failed is because the paradigm of the community and the server has shifted so much since Asulon which was very RP-heavy. If anything, I would not even say that the VA failed in what it set out to do, it was simply made the bogeyman of the server's issues and promptly dragged out back and shot, relieving the community of a problem that still exists to this day.

[Sky 0]

Just now, Freya  said:

 

Don't state my opinion for me. I loved the wilds and it brought MUCH more good than harm. I thought it was a much better idea than the ******* sterile resource island we have now which literally has RP banned on it. Gods above, people are so scared of having their eyes offended by a slightly bad build that they wish to completely amputate part of what made LOTC originally so good.

I stated that you cleaned up the messes in the wilds, would you rather me retract that?

'I know you know this because many times both you and Freya had to clean up the wilds in Anthos.'

 

Not really having their eyes offended by a slightly bad build, but more so the complete and utter landscarring of an area (flattening land, and deforestation), or the lack of thought, and care (literal half-built buildings, abandoned buildings), or perhaps the whole idea that irks me is "Nah man, you don't have to role-play to get a home, just walk in that direction, and live in the wilds!", which in itself isn't the worst thing to do, but I tend to notice this happen a lot with new players and from what I've observed, it was either out of laziness, or lack of care. Why do I say this? Laziness, cause they simply cannot be bothered to find a settlement leader for a home, they ask around get told where to go, or that the leader is busy and will see to them shortly, and before you know it they've bounced. Lack of care, is similar but they refuse to role-play and simply asks in L-OOC, once rejected through those means cause it's not through role-play, then they bounce.

 

I recant any implications in which I state your minds, and opinions for you, I shall rephrase below;

 

I know, that you've seen the absolute shitty half-build monstrosities that littered the wilds, and I know you have seen these because there were multiple times in which I personally saw (either yourself, Freya, or Ever) go around and make the wilds look more pretty, actively doing your part to keep the server nice (hell I did the same shortly after becoming a GM), and that's not the best mindset we should put in people, hell we had a rule that was against inappropriate rules, and simply mothering them by cleaning up their messes when the players are bored with their toys simply enables them to continue this stupidity.

 

Also, I feel the need to say these are clearly my own thoughts, and opinions on the matter.

[Cpt_Noobman 1954]

Throwback to when Anthos had free build.

http://imgur.com/a/fTjkj

[Archbishop 1784]

The screenshots above pretty much shows it all, and isn't that land part of Oren?

[Dreek 1633]

christ noobman i remember having to clear that up as a gm, complete waste of my time. 

[Cpt_Noobman 1954]

Just now, Adam_barnett said:

The screenshots above pretty much shows it all, and isn't that land part of Oren?

No, was Dwarf lands during Anthos when they un-regioned part of it. We spent most of that map destroying cancer like that.

[Archbishop 1784]

What I mean is, I'm pretty sure that the land that is now being used as part of the freedbuild up in the snowy areas is part of Oren or some form of nation.