OzYmandi 647 Share Posted October 14, 2017 So a certain post has been fairly active on the Forums with people who don't belong in it, including myself, taking part. Yes, It's the Dewlox Ban Report. After he got blacklisted for: Poor Villain RP Powergaming I thought of making a post listing what Dewlox did wrong and what Roxforbraynz did wrong. I'll start with Roxforbraynz as they are the one that Ban Reported Dewlox. -Regardless of the nature of the bench, and the Ban Reporter claiming that it wasn't small or heavy, her action standing, turning and pushing the bench towards Dewlox was, at first, powergamey. Why? Because the time she'd take to stand and push the bench would give more than enough time for Dewlox to reach, possibly with a slash or another attack. Secondly, how do you 1 emote standing, turning and pushing the bench? If you have to 3-step emote reloading a BOW AND ARROW, which is not even a crossbow, how come you can 1 emote STANDING > TURNING > SHOVING? -One point. Okay. Up to the next. We have a 2 vs 1 situation here. LeoWarrior14, the super un-biased druid LM came and protected Roxforbraynz sayind that yes, you can cast a root wall out of nowhere just because you're T5 Control. Makes sense. Until the point HedgeHug and Zindran came and denied it. I mean, regardless of the speed of the cast, as Zindran said, a bit of fire would get Kefi somewhere, but it would - and it did. And this is the real point of this one: How the flying magic **** do you cast on fire? How do you manage to control: Your connection, your panic, your connection and cast? If a void mage can be disturbed by fire and lose his/her connection, so can a druid, even more druids, actually, since last I heard, they meddle with nature, and nature has wildfires now and then. Moving on> -So the next topic is more OOC than the actual RP. She claimed that Dewlox was being, and I quote: Extremely Toxic. I can vouch for Dewlox.. Never in a single Combat RP I've had with Dewlox did he even say a single thing in L-OOC instead of explaining any of his items or making a joke. I've never actually seen Dewlox angry. And the situation was pretty stressful. Put yourself in his place @Roxforbraynz. Imagine you were the one banditing. You try to use your super cool runed item and some weirdo with strange abbilities just denies you by raising a root wall out god-knows-where and then catapults herself out while burning? Imagine your stress. You'd be Ban Reporting the druid based off your ban report. You know why? You're selfish! Yes, I am attacking you. You are selfish and you don't know how to lose. I can point out atleast 5 things Dew did wrong, but your simple selfishness of not wanting to lose your precious pixels got a perfectly good villain a perfectly bad blacklist with absulutely no basis other than your selfishness. Oh no don't ban report me for calling you dumb, because you are too. Now to Dewlox. -First, Dew, I think that even Braduk Born, after reading the lore, are not 9 ft tall and as you posted the image, you nerfed it. But it still affected the RP situation, meaning you had an advantage you shouldn't've had. Not that it really helped Rox or f'd you up, it's just that if you were 8 ft tall, it'd be more obvious about the 7 ft tall axe which is double handed even if you were 9 ft tall. That's a minor point. -Second I think that, orc, human, dwarf, anything, you wouldn't be able to chop anyone in half with a single slash. Only if the person is really, really, really weak. The amount of veins, muscles, bones and organs in the path of the axe would take a weapon so sharp that running your finger on it's blade would cut your finger off. In that sutiation, the instance where you brought your axe to play was the slash after the torrent of fire, on which the axe caught the roots. Even more hard to cut through. Have you seen the thickness of a single, well grown tree root? Imagine a bundle of those. It'd be hard as hell to even cut through one. -Third and I know I defended you on the L-OOC matter but... You were kinda toxic. And as much as the situation is stressfull, I've seen you've applied for staff positions and staff situations can be very frustrating and that's a downrate to you. You should be able to atleast try and control and not lose yourself and it was that what motivated my 'friend' Rox to BR you. I'm gonna put this at then end because I feel like it's apparent, but yes, I'm slightly biased towards Dewlox since he's my friend and I've known him basically ever since I've joined the server and I know him to be a chill and perfectly able to RP person and I'd hate to see him blacklisted, which he already is. I'm not gonna comment if the GM was biased or not, because I too respect Jaeden as a perfectly capable GM. Buh bye. -Braz. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky 0 Share Posted October 14, 2017 when it comes to villain apps your past is considered with it and dewlox does have a past of things, as for rox- no one is stopping dewlox from reporting rox for anything they feel is appropriate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drfate786 1690 Share Posted October 14, 2017 2 hours ago, Sky said: when it comes to villain apps your past is considered with it and dewlox does have a past of things, as for rox- no one is stopping dewlox from reporting rox for anything they feel is appropriate 0 Upvote It's my belief that both should have been severely punished. Dewlox deserves the villainy blacklist but Roxforbraynz deserves to have his druidism application revoked for the duration of Dewlox's blacklist. Both powergamed, both RP'ed poorly and both deserve punishment. If I were the GM and or LT handling the BR I would have slapped both of them silly. Edit: Being able to conjure up a root wall while on fire is horrendous roleplay, being able to jump to the back of a bench like ninja gaiden and shove it towards the Olog like shrek is horrendous powergaming. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMeMorgan 2066 Share Posted October 14, 2017 This man speaks everything Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drfate786 1690 Share Posted October 14, 2017 1 minute ago, Jaeden said: There was a druid MT overseeing Rox's roleplay at the time (as they were called there for it). Ontop of this, lengthy discussions were made within LM-GM chat regarding the entire ordeal. The report was on Dewlox, and player history is always taken into account when verdicts are made - for anything. As for accusations of """bias""", I hate everyone so it evens itself out. I also no longer frequently roleplay, so eh. 0 Upvote Evidently druidism requires a good nerf then. The only exception to this would be if druidism is useless in places where nature is absent. IE, a desolate wasteland or burning forest turned wasteland. Afterall, it doesn't make sense for them to conjure up tree roots out of thin air. Trees must be present for such to work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drfate786 1690 Share Posted October 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, Jaeden said: That's Rox's segment within the verdict I posted for the report. 0 Upvote Answer my question please, can they or can they not conjure up roots out of thin air when no trees are otherwise present? IE, a desert or burning wasteland. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drfate786 1690 Share Posted October 14, 2017 1 minute ago, Jaeden said: They cannot. Druidism is restricted by the environment they're in. As you can imagine, attacking a druid within their own grove would be quite silly. While attacking a druid within a desert is ideal. However, living staves also exist. These are druidic staves 'awakened' through blight healing, capable of being manipulated through the use of communion and control. Other than that, no. Roots out of thin air can't be used. From what I understand in that roleplay instance they were in Sutica. From my frequent visits there they tend to have trees littered around the city. It's not far fetched. 0 Upvote abcabcabc Would damage to the environment dampen their connection though? IE, if the balance were "thrown off" by the destruction of some of the largest trees on the server would they become weaker? We've seen two world trees being destroyed/corrupted this map so I don't understand how their connection would be this strong outside of their groves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drfate786 1690 Share Posted October 14, 2017 1 minute ago, Jaeden said: Their connection isn't hindered by the destruction of world trees or any parts of nature they aren't communed with. What I mean is, you can't just smack a tree when you're fighting a druid and expect the fight to suddenly become easier. 0 Upvote Yeah, but if I were to warclaim the druids and reduce their grove to cinders during the WC they'd become incredibly weak right? IE, wouldn't be able to use their connection to the trees because all the trees are dead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drfate786 1690 Share Posted October 14, 2017 1 minute ago, Jaeden said: Well, yes and no. Druids have a passive connection though this is exclusive to only basic communion (even for tier 5's). The control segment of druidism is what you'd call an active ability. It requires active concentration - it's their casting to be able to perform these magical druidic feats. If you WC'd the druids and destroyed the grove, it wouldn't affect the magic itself, though if everything was dead then of course - nothing could be communed with. 0 Upvote There you go, destroy everything around them with fire or taint and they're screwed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatGuy_777 220 Share Posted October 14, 2017 I thought the verdict given was fair all around. Keep up the great work @Jaeden Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonesOfTheEarth 2252 Share Posted October 14, 2017 @Jaeden is a good man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfelt 1437 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Reminder to keep thing civil. Fm's are watching. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonesOfTheEarth 2252 Share Posted October 14, 2017 1 hour ago, Jaeden said: Other than that, no. Roots out of thin air can't be used. From what I understand in that roleplay instance they were in Sutica. From my frequent visits there they tend to have trees littered around the city. It's not far fetched. 0 Upvote They were also in the grove I believe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzYmandi 647 Author Share Posted October 14, 2017 4 hours ago, Jaeden said: There was a druid MT overseeing Rox's roleplay at the time (as they were called there for it). Ontop of this, lengthy discussions were made within LM-GM chat regarding the entire ordeal. The report was on Dewlox, and player history is always taken into account when verdicts are made - for anything. As for accusations of """bias""", I hate everyone so it evens itself out. I also no longer frequently roleplay, so eh. 1 Upvote That's why I complimented you as one of the few non-biased GM's around... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zindran 590 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Moved to The Great Library. It shall be sorted into the appropriate category shortly. If you feel this is a mistake, please contact myself or any FM and we'll restore it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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