LeoRabbit99 360 Share Posted August 7, 2018 I’m sorry, I usually try to make it a point to attempt to avoid trending OOC drama, but I just really need to get this off my chest… I was pretty excited today. I was coming home from the gym, didn’t have work the next day, school is still not for another few weeks, I was hyped up for Malgonious’s event...I was having a nice day. I come home to find out one of my best friends on this server had been accused of pedophilia. And after looking into it, I concluded it’s likely true, although I cannot say for sure. While trying to mediate for her in the beginning, she’s literally crying out on VC. It seemed like she was innocent (or maybe not). I couldn’t tell you because I didn’t see the logs. All I knew at this point was that my friend was truly upset, and it pained me. The least I could do was to try and help her prove her possible innocence. First, I’d like to clarify that my friend did not send me to do this, but I, in fact, took it upon myself to do it. She wasn’t being manipulative in anyway as far as I could tell. Anyway...I asked sneaky_turtles to send the logs to my friend so she could prove her innocence. Although she refused, and for reasons I don’t agree with, but I understand, I feel like we had a respectable conversation. I feel like the feeling is mutual… Later, I had people inviting me to discord chats saying I harassed her, which is utterly untrue. I even asked sneaky_turtle afterward if she felt like I harassed her, and she was completely fine with me. It’s funny...they were harassing me about “supposive” harassment of another, which is again, untrue. Later, in another LotC discord, someone stated something to the effect of my friend’s (the one who was banned for pedophilia) buddies (people like myself) were wrong for trying to sympathize with her. I chimed in. Being her friend, I wanted to set my record clear. I’d like to clarify, that I was respectful in this. First, I stated that I loathed pedophilia and that I thought it was disgusting and sick. I said I would condemn my friend if I had found out the allegations were true. I then simply stated that I would not make a conclusion because I would not judge my friend until I was absolutely sure. I said that I couldn’t make a conclusion until I had logs, then said it ultimately didn’t matter though, because I wasn’t the one making the decision. This was literally it. Afterwards, I got some **** for this. People kept spouting to shut the **** up about it, “******* stop” and to “stop before something I don’t like happens.” If I came off like an *******, I’m sorry, but it couldn’t have been that bad. I wasn’t bringing up a topic that wasn’t already being talked about at that moment. It seemed like they just didn’t like my view because it opposed them. It was as if I couldn’t make an unbiased perspective on the situation without automatically being seen as pedophile sympathizer. “He’d rather wait for evidence first. He must be pro-pedophilia. **** him.” That’s the demeanor I got from the conversation. I did my best to play it cool, but I’m not going to lie...it’s hard sometimes. This is only one of many situations I've had... I do my best to mend the feuds I have with other players. I want a positive relationship with the community. I go out of my way after an argument to break the ice. I try to say stuff like “I understand your viewpoint, and respect it.” Many times, I have found myself apologizing for **** I know I’ve fucked up on. I try to contribute to a good community, and encourage nice and positive behavior in others...but man...it’s hard sometimes. It’s hard when you’re trying to be calm and understanding of their perspective, and they just **** on you. I mean it’s really ******* hard...and I know I’m not perfect. There are some things I’d take back if I could...some things I believe came off wrong, some things I was wrong on, or a mixture of both, but I do do my best. I just want a platform to RP with others. I just want to have fun. I feel like most of the people complain a lot…”It’s the staff’s fault!” “People are bad at playing villains!” My advice...just make do with what you have. I understand that criticism is good, but it gets to the point where everyone is just generally trying to find something to blame, and without really realizing it. Take it upon yourselves to make things fun...I’ve not once found myself in a period in LotC where I was actually uncontent with the RP on the server...I’ll probably get a lot of backlash for that comment, but it’s true. Let me give you an example… The church attacked my town, Halsworthy. I worked my ass off to build and run it, getting to the point of serious OOC stress, and then they came down, then raided it over and over and over again, and eventually killed my character. I was upset. I was turned into a ghoul when my character was executed and found the roleplay incredibly boring...but I didn’t blame the canonists for attacking my town, I didn’t blame the boring nature of the ghoul...no. Instead, I started an event line that many enjoyed. I made do with what I had. While obviously, this isn’t going to be the case every situation, it’s something to consider. Try to find the fun in something and exploit it. In short, while my people (people who lived in Halsworthy) complained that the church’s RP was terrible (and I respect their opinion, and still adore them because they’re my pals), I used the RP, and turned it into something that not only I enjoyed, but the church did as well, even though I PKed the pope in it. I had many of them thanking me for the RP. My point is... idk, I just feel like everyone is always looking for something to blame, and are never willing to actually see something from another perspective. I’m not saying to not give feedback, or to not debate about things--by no means….just be understanding while you do it. I just wanted to get this out there with all the OOC shenanigans going on rn. I welcome all comments and opinions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narthok 10416 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Too many folks are crying and pointing fingers rather than trying to resolve problems. Consider applying for GM if you truly have this mindset, its good to see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkElfs 160 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Not going lie I looked over so many comments and things of the sort. An honestly leorabbit we are friends and no reason I'm going say this. But I agree with ya entirely you need evidence before fully being able to condemn your friends or state the rest are in the wrong. While also to many people pick and nip and blame everyone else or some certain people even if they never did anything. That's lotc any more for you. Ooc conflict. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zacho 2177 Share Posted August 7, 2018 You're a genuine guy, i don't doubt it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auriel_ 652 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Wrong place, wrong time. Something my folks had always taught me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Elrith_ 4525 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Too bad this post isn't getting as many comments as it deserves. You're a pretty honest individual man, keep it good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malgonious 2758 Share Posted August 7, 2018 I feel terrible, you were excited to come do an event I had planned and hyped up for your group, and in the end the server **** itself to pieces last night. All this horrible **** going on lately, nobody needs any of it. I just want to create that platform for everyone to RP on and not worry about some ooc bullshit. I promise you the event today will make up for the fact we had to reschedule. I'm sorry leorabbit and I agree, you should join staff and make the change happen yourself. We could use another good mindset in an already jaded community. I appreciate your words. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
L0rdLawyer 2272 Share Posted August 7, 2018 You **** with Leo, you **** with me. Don't give this good hearted kid **** for caring about everyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chryasor 269 Share Posted August 7, 2018 I mean. Yeh, fair enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MamaBearJade 2090 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Witnessing it in one chat, I honestly wish I could have done more. I have been through this with now two friends. One I still find it very difficult to believe they did something similar. If you find it easy to turn your back on a friend over accusations, that person never deserved you as a friend, in my honest opinion. It took a lot to convince me one of my friends was a predator. And when I saw the evidence for myself, I finally had to concede as one of the people involved was under the age of 13 (different server). The other friend, I have a harder time believing he did wrong because some whome were involved were known for lying. Leo. Honestly, stand by your friend as long as you want. I have stood by people for a long time and it takes a lot to break that bond. No one should be blaming you for being a loyal friend. If anything, they should admire that you prefer facts before dropping your friend. I am open to talking if you need another friend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky 0 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Perhaps what I will say may be seen as the unpopular opinion or possibly that I am saying this just to cause ****, when in fact what I am about to write is a genuine opinion of mine and some advise. Basically, if you have a friend which is caught up in things which is considered illegal and if you truly care about them, then you would actually tell them straight up that what they are doing is absolutely wrong, now that is assuming everything is true as it stands. Now this isn't saying to abandon them, quite the opposite in some regards, what I have learned from my experiences is that true friends tell eachother the hard truth and ignore how much pain it may cause. However, at the end of the day, if they continue to be the way they are, then honestly they aren't someone you want to be involved with. Why do I say this? Well, by simply being their friend and defending their actions, you basically enable them and make them think it's the right thing, quickest way to fix this is to allow them to fall into a pit of loneliness and realize that they put themselves their with their abhorrent and disgusting ways. Tough love in the end. Leo, you're a good kid and try to be as true to yourself as possible, just don't let the actions of others pull you down to. Only you can decide if someone is truly worth being your friend, and in life you have to cut off from the bad from time to time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unwillingly 18123 Share Posted August 7, 2018 I love you leo, and I can understand why you'd feel like this/want evidence, especially when it was your friend. Keep it up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnsy 437 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Moved to The Great Library. It shall be sorted into the appropriate category shortly. If you feel this is a mistake, please contact myself or any FM and we'll restore it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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