THE PROBLEMS WITH TODAY'S NORLANDERS

[El Ricktador 1394]

This is for the people who may be somehow convinced by the barely intelligible attempt at an argument by Lionbileti. For the people who know how much sewage truly exists in that thread of his and for the people who want to know the truth.

 

Warclaims are usually prefaced by optimism and hopes that they won’t be as laggy as the last one that took place. They draw players in with the hope for a good fight and a good time. This has been the cycle for some time now. We as players hope that the server will continue to work towards a better experience and make strides in ensuring that the connection at these massive battles is the best that it can be. Some examples of this are the war server, swing timers, and the removal of Nexus. Obviously, today is an outlier in the generally positive direction towards a less laggy experience.

 

For the most part, the warclaims now have been better than they’ve been in a long time. There was lag and there were people (on both sides) crashing constantly and having to reconnect over and over. I know this because it happened to me too and it happened to a hundred other Affectionate-statused players. Like the defenders, the attackers were also being affected by this. However, this is not what the defenders saw or felt.

It is okay to be displeased with the laggy server hardware. It is not okay to take it out on the staff who put up with the endless barrage of excuses from the Nordengrad side in the war chats.

 

In their eyes and the eyes of Lionbileti, they were the terribly ignored and cast aside victims who did nothing wrong and were being scorned and unfairly abused by the staff team. The staff team was maliciously targeting them so that the Empire can reign supreme yet again! They’re the victims here!

 

This is wrong, incorrect, and disingenuous. Their complaint on the forums can be boiled down to delusional crying or outright lying at best. This shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone since this has been a pattern for the Nordengradic leadership thus far.

I will continue by deconstructing his post point by point.

 

 

This is where the lies begin. He ignores the fact that both sides’ players were being booted and and it wasn’t just their side getting the kick. The staff team can’t choose who gets removed. The server the one removing players through time-outs. They have no control over who gets removed from the server and they have no control over where they end up.

I can state this with a lot of confidence because I was in voice with someone who appeared at the Reiver warclaim from the other week after relogging.

Additionally, he argues that the “Imperial side was brought immediately after [the] kick.” This is just a blatant lie. There was zero preference for Imperial side to be brought back. There were players from both sides being brought back and to say otherwise is such a departure from the truth that it doesn’t even warrant discussion. If you have real evidence of preference then reveal it. You have the ear of a GM with Elrith in your voice chat.

 

 

You continue this line of bullshit later in the thread by attempting to say that the GMs were just outright ignoring you. You then go on to try and be slick and slip in the irrelevant fact that their inventories were wiped. We know what you’re trying to do. We’re not being fooled. There was no foul play. There were players on both sides who spawned back in with no gear. This is an attempt at making a feels-based argument for sympathy and nothing more.

Below is an image of the pool:
 

https://youtu.be/20nOUNgThJ4?t=83

Let’s pull back a bit from that later quote to this part:

The fact that you honestly believed that this belongs in a feedback thread is ridiculous. This is literally just you crying that a player is better at PVP than you are. You got beat fair and square and you have no evidence that Tornado was cheating. You have zero reason to make this claim and you attempt to justify that by saying he hacked in the past (which is not true and the only possible recollection of this fact is on another server, years ago).

 

https://youtu.be/hpcwKgHX088

Above is a breakdown of the situation.

Truthfully, the entire paragraph is drivel and an attempt to create anger against the staff when you imply that they were ignoring you and that their responses were “short and vague, not giving any room for discussion to be made.”
 

What discussions?

If anything, the staff has been extremely cordial with you and even outright overly forgiving at times.

THREE DAY BANS FOR MOCKING THE DEATH OF A FAMILY MEMBER OF ANOTHER LOTC PLAYER REPEATEDLY, UNAPOLOGETICALLY. BORDERLINE SADISTIC.

Yet you still complained and harassed staff members.

For those interested, screenshots of this will be at the very bottom.

I list the following things that the staff did specifically out of the kindness of their heart to make it easier for you. Yet again, despite this, you **** on them and bite the hand that fed you.

1. The fact that you were allowed to add ridiculous MC factions tier defenses to the orc capital tomorrow when it has not been allowed for the entire rest of this map.

2. The fact that they went along with your attempt to push the warclaim back to December 1st despite your intention being transparent. You were stalling. They negotiated this on your behalf (without having to btw). Despite the fact that I denied the stall, they encouraged you and shouldn’t have. Below I will provide evidence of this.
 

You go on to try this argument again when you say this:



If anything, the admin (Fireheart) was way too forgiving with your side. He even allowed Elrith to get involved with the war chat despite him being an open member of your side. Did I complain in war chat? No, I worked with him and he worked with me.

The presiding GMs on this warclaim were essentially Frott and Elrith. Frott is unaffiliated with us and Elrith is affiliated with you. Where are the leagues of Empire of Man GMs that are on our payroll?  If anyone were to be allowed to make the argument that the war staff team was stacked in their favor, it’s you.

If anyone is even considering taking the side of these people against the staff, look below and see for yourself what they devolved into in the warzone:
 

https://i.gyazo.com/thumb/1200/013017a05b20be60e779fb529141a638-png.jpg
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https://i.gyazo.com/0b064b0aa7aebbba095dd009128d62ca.png

 

Your post is a desperate attempt at garnering public support for the fact that you lost a warclaim fair and square and cannot handle the consequences of your actions in both OOC and IC.

You cry when you’re banned for mocking suicide and you cry when you’re banned for making personal attacks.

You cry when you’re warclaimed for rebelling and attempt to stall through disinformation and deceitful tactics.

You claim that you refuse to join the team because you do not meet their below average standards.

 

 

But it is you who is not up to the standards of this playerbase.

Stop making the rest of us look bad.

To use your own words against you, when you made your own post, it was clear that there was “little to no care nor thought given.”

[Halt 3021]

The behavior shown in those screenshots is reprehensible to say the least. +1

[Chimp 528]

i consider myself a pretty toxic person but that **** is fucked up yikes

[Chase 3793]

I agree +1

[InfamousGerman 1553]

absolutely appalling what they’re getting away w/

[Harri 4815]

the problem is today’s norlanders

[3andD 1722]

I stand with Richard. He speaks the truth

[seannie 7443]

pretty sure we’re both completely **** on both sides, just the big difference is that the op posting this is on the winning side 

[bojan1 248]

i stand with ricky this is unacceptable

[Pond 1069]

idk majority of this server’s population is just toxic to everyone, both sides has its “assholes” to say the least

 

also duly apologize to any1 I have been rude to, but both sides has its instigators that make people on either side mad

[winterblessing 1800]

In regards to the suicide comments, the players who continued after the warnings were given to immediately cease the comments were given community guidelines violations, and banned for longer than three days. If you have any more evidence of the players continuing after the warnings were given, please send them my way.

 

Behaviour like that is unacceptable. It will never be acceptable on LOTC.

[rukio 8924]

Considering most of Norland's leadership is american I hope they are grateful this thanksgiving that the majority of them have not lost a parent to suicide. For the most part they're younger players than myself and as someone who went through it, I genuinely hope they never find their mother (or father) hanging from a rope in the garage or anywhere else. The loss and death of people you love isn't something that should be made fun of. Call me a hypocrite for my toxic past but. It takes an unbelievably cruel person to make fun of the loss of a parent. Especially if you know it affects the person. 

[Temp 2006]

Folks should just chill, wind down elsewhere and then come back to keep things in stride. The WC was lackluster but a mulligan would set a very negative trend that would completely ruin warclaims that have yet to come. 

[NotEvilAtAll 10906]

The Forum Team should just ban anyone trying to make massive drama posts like the crud being slung between both sides after this warclaim.

[someome 2053]

Just now, NotEvilAtAll said:

The Forum Team should just ban anyone trying to make massive drama posts like the crud being slung between both sides after this warclaim.