Damnit_Delmar 1107 Share Posted April 19, 2023 Spoiler Due to the nature of the Modification, I would suggest allowing current Liches, Darkstalkers, or Necromancers that hold this modification the one time ability to remove such from their MA/CA and open their modification slot. Though this is ultimately up to ST decision and choice. Original Lore: Purpose Modifications are supposed to hold a cost, however out of all of them, Corpsevision only gives while not actually taking anything. So I would like to suggest a modification to the current redlines Original Spoiler This functions mechanically identical to normal vision while offering a cantrip ability of seeing how close someone is to death. However, a necromancer cannot predict to any accurate degree if someone is about to die in a random amount of days or years (however, they can lie). For example, a necromancer cannot say that Jim has twenty more years to live and it be in any way enforced. Amendment Spoiler Taking on this modification will cause the individual to become fully blind to all things but lifeforce, the bearer being able to view a faint aura of lifeforce around individuals. This also grants the user the ability to predict how close to death someone is, however a necromancer cannot predict to any accurate degree if someone is about to die in a random amount of days or years (however, they can lie). For example, a necromancer cannot say that Jim has twenty more years to live and it be in any way enforced. A necromancer with this modification would still be eligible to apply for either a Seer FA/MA This makes the necromancer fully unable to see individuals that do not hold any Lifeforce, such as Automata, Atronachs, Siliti, ect. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olandyr 453 Share Posted April 19, 2023 If a necromancer with Corpsevision becomes a Seer, they should lose Corpsevision (or have it become redundant), as Seers don't generally keep any bonuses/alterations to sight 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClassyDryad 1733 Share Posted April 19, 2023 What Olandyr said, druid seers lose greensight for instance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damnit_Delmar 1107 Author Share Posted April 19, 2023 12 minutes ago, Olandyr said: Corpsevision becomes a Seer, they should lose Corpsevision (or have it become redundant) With the nature of Modifications, they do become permanent to the character. Talked a little with Zarsies about it, however he mentioned so long as it just had it pick up on Lifeforce it should be fine. Though for the most part, it is redundant with for example, if a Necromancer becomes a MA Seer. All in all, the amendment is made to actually 'blind' rather then just give a slight boost to ones vision, and it still allows for said flavor of being blind and being able to pursue Seerdom. Should one desire to go down that route. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeSmoothie 4905 Share Posted April 19, 2023 Why nerf a cantrip ability that's quite literally just "you can see if someone's actively dying (which is typically already obvious)"? Did you encounter an issue with a necromancer using this to powergame? 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damnit_Delmar 1107 Author Share Posted April 19, 2023 9 minutes ago, TreeSmoothie said: Why nerf a cantrip ability that's quite literally just "you can see if someone's actively dying (which is typically already obvious)"? Did you encounter an issue with a necromancer using this to powergame? Not at all, I just took note of it being the only real necro modification that doesn't have a drawback. If you look through the other modifications, all hold a certain drawback, and its specified in the lore that they should have one. Mummification for example, gives life but slows them down Durgrmail gives communion with the dead easier, while holding an inability to talk normally Ghoul Flesh allows you to plague touch things easier, at the cost of risking infecting others. If you look at the lore itself it even states "Blinded to life, but capable of seeing the woes of death, a seer wields the power to see how much lifeforce a living being has." Wouldn't you agree then that it makes little to no sense to have one be able to see things that hold zero Lifeforce? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werew0lf 12024 Share Posted April 19, 2023 Nerfing something that doesn’t require nerfing. 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ropceek 70 Share Posted April 20, 2023 You are doing something that isnt needed in any way lmao. And taking vision from necros thats kinda absurd for me, like why would they lose vision and see only life force? That is so useless. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DISCOLIQUID 1963 Share Posted April 20, 2023 The effect of open lore amendments. Constant fishing for shit to get modified. Saw this in Kani too, with like 4 proposed amendments. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Songwitch 1440 Share Posted June 7, 2023 This lore has been denied. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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