We need to talk about fishing.

[Josif 544]

Hello Lord of the Craft community, you may know me, you may not. For those that do, you propbably know already that I absolutely LOVE minecraft fishing, it is one of my favourite time wasters and I feel (especially in my case) brings people together to just goof off and catch fish. HOWEVER! For a while now, I've found that the fishing plugin that was introduced on August 13th 2023 by Adelemphii (absolutely no hate or anything towards them at all) has sort of.. deminished, this feeling in a few ways, ways that may not be big issues, but are impactful in other ways.

 Below, in their own seperate sections I will be listing some of my own issues I have found while engaging with this plugin, once again, any opinions of mine I state I do not mean to offend or insult Adelemphii and their plugin in anyway, these are simply OPINIONS, I know what some of you are like so.. just putting it there.

Storage

During the first few days of the plugin, me and my friends spent hours grinding it out, trying to catch one of each item, and it wasn't until we filled our seventh double chest with soggy atlas' and blueshell crabs, that we realised "Oh shit! We've filled our entire storage with.. basically unusable items.", and for us, this was a problem! Storage has also been (for me atleast) a sizeable worry, we all have our chest monsters full of building materials, roleplay items, and personal trinkets, and we'd just filled ours with FISH.

Aether Pets
As I, and many other Aether VIPs have noticed, some of the more popular Aether pets (e.g. axolotl, polar bear) use fish as a food source. The fishing plugin does give you the required items, but due to them being editted items, they are unusable, therefore making the Aether pets themselves unusable. We spend our money to achieve this rank (yes I know it was a lot we get it), and we want to be able to utilise it to it's full potentional.

Food
In a similar situation to the Aether pets, fishing is/was one of the largest sources of food for our players; it was easy to get, it filled a decent amount of your hunger bar, and it was unlimited. With how the fishing plugin currently works, you cannot stack the fishing drops, this makes catching and cooking COMPLETELY impractical, and extremely slow.
 

For now, I will be leaving it at this, I don't want to drone on about how I'm not the biggest fan of Hooked as a plugin, however I will say this.
Fishing is an relatively important part of minecraft as a whole, and the plugin making it reduce to almost completely remove the purpose behind it, makes it inherently flawed. It needs a rework.

Josif, out.

[EmiliainWonderland 2309]

Based point, noticed that with fishing myself. I love the little items you can get from a roleplay standpoint, but from a food standpoint? Nah.

[wowj 9747]

they should make it enable-ebledlele if you want just pure fish or hooked fishing items, cause its kinda impossible to get large amounts of fish for RP items either.. (Grub Bucket)

[kujo_ 2510]

2 hours ago, wowj said:

they should make it enable-ebledlele if you want just pure fish or hooked fishing items

 

pls. the few fish ive caught have been named items that i cant eat

[Zanael Moonstrider 442]

Fishing is one of my favourite pastimes on lotc due to my timezone.

I just love having my musin king hop in a little boat and have a peaceful day fishing!

 

I’d love to see the fishing plugin worked on some more.

[Kumoko600 106]

Based post, as a GMT player who has less opportunities to get involved in meaningful roleplay. Fishing was a great time waster activity, I don't hate the plugin but I didn't really like it either, I just engaged with mechanic less. 

[RianNeverfield 149]

The only thing I use the plugin for is filling up buckets of fish and release them around others. Though I would love more added, especially depth. Let us fish up small tresure maps that we can use like normal minecraft maps to find a small treasure of ingots, gems and coins. (rp items, not minas)

[kruurk 47]

if it helps anyone, i found that you can craft a little sack to hold fishing items, it has the inventory of a single chest and i stack my duplicate fishing items inside (where possible!). : )

 

[tadabug2000 4918]

The plugin has its pros and cons both, definitely. Just on some general feedback, the ability to stack it and it be edible would be great - Though, I'd personally suggest two things, the ability to edit the items (sometimes I catch a pearl for example, want to make it into jewelry), and the ability to soulbind them (had a persona with a mana mouse once for a pet).

 

I think it's a very fun plugin! But there are ways to make it even better!

[Jihnyny 5233]

i dont like the fishing plugin. It was cool at first but i thought the items were gonna have any use. (they dont)

[Adelemphii 1766]

I personally want to pull the plug on Hooked and have it removed from the main server until I have the time to work on it and develop it further, as in its current state it still remains a half-baked product. However @Aesopian keeps convincing me to keep it on main, and so I have worked today with the amount of time I have on a mechanic to make Hooked fishing an "Opt-In" experience requiring its own special rod.

 

I am in the process of writing up a post about it, and once that it complete I will work with @Llir to have it moved to main. I appreciate the feedback, much of which I myself agree with.

[Borin 7645]

staff should ignore any forum post titled 'we need to talk about'

[sprtn 3340]

On 11/9/2024 at 12:17 AM, Josif said:

"Oh shit! We've filled our entire storage with.. basically unusable items."

throw them out 

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On 11/9/2024 at 12:17 AM, Josif said:

Aether pets

pets were removed

 

On 11/9/2024 at 12:17 AM, Josif said:

In a similar situation to the Aether pets, fishing is/was one of the largest sources of food for our players; it was easy to get, it filled a decent amount of your hunger bar, and it was unlimited. With how the fishing plugin currently works, you cannot stack the fishing drops, this makes catching and cooking COMPLETELY impractical, and extremely slow.

fair enough if you liked cooked salmon ig



hooked is not perfect, but a great demonstration of custom fishing tailored specifically to lotc. i agree wholeheartedly with wowj's idea of being able to toggle whether you want roleplay specific drops or just normal vanilla ones (watered down). though I have faith in adel to add some more usefulness to the plugin as opposed to it just being cool roleplay items (not that there is a problem w them)

[Josif 544]

@Greehn Firstly, one sentence responses to issues aren't what we need, it's solutions that we need. Just saying "Oh just do this ???????" doesn't help.
Secondly, Aether pets are are still a thing, they were never removed. If you want to solve that issue, remove the need for feeding them alltogether, it'd make it much easier.

Lastly, it doesn't matter that cooked fish are equal to bread or baked potatoes, as someone who spent most of their time on Almaris fishing, fish became an unlimited and easy-to-access food source.

[kujo_ 2510]

29 minutes ago, Josif said:

it's solutions that we need

29 minutes ago, Josif said:

"Oh just do this ???????" doesn't help.

 

am i stupid or is that not giving solutions