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as much as i dislike the way admins worked, Hogo was the only one i held trust in when it came to community thoughts since he was actively engaging with the community, and didnt have an old head mentality. Sorry to see him go, and im sorry to see this whole situation happen.

 

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Could metaplay via screenshots sent and roleplay being streamed in calls also include completely innocent sharing between friends?
As someone who has streamed LOTC in voicecalls, and posted funny and also spooky roleplay screenshots in quotes channels, and sending to friends, I'm worried that these actions could be seen as metaplay and punished.

Should we cease sharing roleplay screenshots and streaming our screens in voice calls? Should we also be worried that previous actions will be reported?
Should we delete quote channels, or the bardmancy emote show off channel?

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Mixed feelings about this. I think cracking down on ooc culture is a good thing. I don't think its necessarily going to make the server more dynamic or IRP-based. I don't really see a problem with bringing people in from other communities, LOTC could definitely use new blood. I am skeptical that de-facto perma bans via the PCV process are the correct remedy.

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Hogo you a real one

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8 minutes ago, Saun_399 said:

Could metaplay via screenshots sent and roleplay being streamed in calls also include completely innocent sharing between friends?
As someone who has streamed LOTC in voicecalls, and posted funny and also spooky roleplay screenshots in quotes channels, and sending to friends, I'm worried that these actions could be seen as metaplay and punished.

Should we cease sharing roleplay screenshots and streaming our screens in voice calls? Should we also be worried that previous actions will be reported?
Should we delete quote channels, or the bardmancy emote show off channel?

 

I do not believe there's anything inherently wrong with sharing quotes, emotes, or streaming yourself RPing on a server - most of the time, someone isn't going to share their most private RP scenes. The difference between the two, however, is when the shared media is intentionally utilized between a group of individuals OOCly to metagame, metarally, find a favorable ground OOCly, and so forth, as stated in the forum prior. 

 

I am not a moderator, though; do not consider my words a fact.

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7 minutes ago, Saun_399 said:

Could metaplay via screenshots sent and roleplay being streamed in calls also include completely innocent sharing between friends?
As someone who has streamed LOTC in voicecalls, and posted funny and also spooky roleplay screenshots in quotes channels, and sending to friends, I'm worried that these actions could be seen as metaplay and punished.

Should we cease sharing roleplay screenshots and streaming our screens in voice calls? Should we also be worried that previous actions will be reported?
Should we delete quote channels, or the bardmancy emote show off channel?

I don't really have a horse in this race, but stuff like quotes channel and whatnot is totally fine. Even certain metagaming that people do doesn't really hit the threshold for a ban like this. This is only the second metaplay ban on the server so far. If stuff like what you mention was punishable, we'd be seeing bans for it already.

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1 hour ago, HogoBojo said:

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Howdy,

 

Metaplay is something that has been plaguing our server for quite some time. The term itself was not coined until somewhat recently, with definitions, rules, & guidelines denoting such being made by myself &  the rest of The Administration. When our internal discussions first started, stemming from a very public community situation, I was fully onboard with the development of our implementation of the Metaplay Guidelines. I worked hard alongside my greatest ally Squak, as well as the other Administrators to help develop & enforce these policies. When I caught wind of a different situation that I believed to be Metaplay, I made sure to report it with all due haste. 

 

In-terms of the Vinovia situation, particularly the Metaplay aspect– I was added to the Discord by LobsterLarry, someone I consider to be a good friend of mine, and the Leader of Vinovia. When talking to him, he seemed to be ambitious and eager to get this project running, and talked quite enthusiastically for ages about it. When tossed an invite to the Discord, I happily obliged. I very rarely peeped the Discord, with me checking it less as more time came to pass. Different Discord Roles were afforded to me as courtesy by Larry as his friend– although they were removed and added several times, most notably when the Vinovians caught word of a report & knew they were cooked. Just to be perfectly clear– I did not check that Discord often, and was unaware of the Metaplay that transpired. 

 

In-terms of the application monkeys– I was reached out a few days ago by a team member of mine who expressed deep concern about how Vinovia was getting applications reviewed. For those unaware, a group of already whitelisted players would grind out full applications for their friends, to get them whitelisted quickly & without issue. Upon hearing such, I informed the team member to deny any & all applications they are aware of that were made using this procedure. In addition to this, I informed said team member that I would investigate & look into taking further action. I received this message on the 10th of this month, so four days ago. Fully writing applications for others is something I’ve always been strongly against, and believe it just acts in complete bad faith.

 

This takes us to now– Metaplay was discovered, as well as bad-faith actions in general. I’m appalled to see such, especially by people I consider to be close friends. I myself although was unaware until the report- I failed to carry out my duty as an Administrator to enforce the policy, despite it transpiring right under my nose, and by those quite close to me. To ensure that trust is still held, and so none can loft false accusations towards The Administration, I have decided to tender my resignation. This decision was solely mine to take, and one I take to show that you’ve all already been warned– and you will face the consequences should you break our Policy. Administrators are to enforce this Policy with self-initiative & haste– and by me being unaware of such actions & my free time drawing thin, I’m unable to perform the duty expected of me by myself, and by others.

 

Thank you to my fellow Administrators, and The Community Team for the opportunity to serve as Administrator. I'm proud of what my team has accomplished, and what I have personally accomplished inn my role– especially for our strides in our Safety Policies. I wish the best of luck to my successor when they are selected. A special thank you to the Community as well– I'm honoured to have gotten to serve as Administrator, and gotten to interact with all of you. I'll still be around, although not on staff, for those of you who still wish to talk– you may reach out.

 

— Hogo

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Bro you had perms in the discord for like 3+ weeks and there was no perm-sniping cause of reports, bans came as a surprise to all of us even though we advised not writing applications for people. Your stepping down is like 2 years too late cause CT team has had 0 progress since you took over, no new initiatives, no new events, just regurgitated garbage. Good to see you go, though. 

 

Also glad to see that Levy_Spearman metaplay got addressed finally. Took Josh long enough LOL. Openly saying in Curia chat that he wanted to get rid of the Novellen line 3 months ago wasn't enough. Good job man. @Josh3738

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9 minutes ago, graveyard_bones said:

  

 

I do not believe there's anything inherently wrong with sharing quotes, emotes, or streaming yourself RPing on a server - most of the time, someone isn't going to share their most private RP scenes. The difference between the two, however, is when the shared media is intentionally utilized between a group of individuals OOCly to metagame, metarally, find a favorable ground OOCly, and so forth, as stated in the forum prior. 

 

I am not a moderator, though; do not consider my words a fact.

 

pretty much hit the nail on the head

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Considering I've joined the server roughly a month ago, surprised to see something like this pop up but I will heed the warning - thank you admins for all you do

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