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[M1919 2298]

GM, here is the wordsmith post. oblivion remaster is good if you have not played it already

Thanks to the folks who stood up for me as well while I was handling some srs sturfs with da fam

 

 

ahem.

 

 

 

The words here are generally directed toward those it concerns, given that the original poster stated she does not want to give time to LotC. That is fine, and it should be respected. But when you throw a rock at a window, expect the person inside to feel at least somewhat irritated, even if you wanted to dash off swiftly.

 

 

I have largely refrained from commenting much because, for the last couple of weeks, I have been managing personal matters or just finding the reach and words of others comedic, but this is the last straw. To be equated with a domestic abuser is, quite frankly, disingenuous and offensive; for also apparently being labeled and equated similarly as being a murderer by members of your community, merely a few weeks prior, was equally reprehensible. The efforts to manipulate the tragic elements are acknowledged; however, the apparent disregard for ethical standards is disappointing.

I do not harbor hatred toward you; it is not my nature to hate anyone. I bear no animosity toward you despite your constant insults and belittling remarks. Even amid your falsehoods and your group's efforts to twist the truth, I still do not harbor any ill will toward you. Although there were some humorous moments, the excessive insults were annoying. My disappointment does not mean I hate you. I do not enjoy making anyone feel small and irrelevant, and I derive no joy from putting someone down. If someone has said awful things to you or anybody, it was not because I had encouraged that, and I do not endorse it.

I was not absurdly hostile or egregiously rude during the raid, and I reassured many others who were present that they could log out without worrying about consequences. Making a remark about someone who constantly egged on OOC and emoted hilarious anime-style actions, and using a raid ladder after previously being informed it was allowed in similar situations to escape a gate trap is one thing; however, resorting to insults and fabricating absurd allegations or comparisons about players is another. Please don't take this as a dismissal of the gravity of something that seemed genuine to me, and do not fall victim to the notion that you are being harassed for wanting to nation lead.

Despite the criticisms, I am unconvinced that anyone in the Norn community actively celebrated your departure from the server. Then again, I'm not around too often to unveil every bit and piece of would-be silliness.

Nevertheless, I do not know most of you; my interactions have primarily been with a few players targeting us, including those who later founded Vansk, since the early days of the Norns. At that time, and even just a couple of months ago, it was heavily leeching off your OOC aims to try and deter the Norn culture from ever assimilating within Norland itself. Our personas, at least from what I can recall, have done nothing to oppose your characters on the server until the Kingsmoot transpired. Yes, even when you were actively making jabs in VC about Veletz's nonsense. It did not matter because it was trivial and childish.

There is a misconstrued belief from you, or someone around you, that you are the ones who have been under threat since the day that my friends and I said,

"Vikings? Why not?"

It has not been, and we have not actively sought to attack you. Notably, a considerable contingent of the Norns' First Blood was returning to the nation or community they had been part of years prior.

As frustrating as your group had been to deal with, we shrugged it off for well over a year. Most of the differences were ignored, and we let it be. After all, entering someone's house and telling them to rearrange the furniture in their living room is rude. The only conflict with your community stemmed from the development's IRP.

 

 

I'll sort out a few small sections here:

The settling & arrival of the Norns:

Spoiler

 

 

Prior to the arrival of the Norns' motte and bailey castle, Norland faced persistent threats from various land-grabbing factions eager to exploit the nation’s resources. These groups were often larger, more powerful entities aimed at capitalizing on Norland's wealth and strategic advantages. Dissenting factions, fueled by players with prior in-character conflicts, were also present; a common issue across the server. Our strength mirrored these dissenting groups, making it harder to accost the nation.

Before the kingsmoot, our activities for almost a year were dedicated to assisting Elrith and fulfilling his wishes. While we had our interests for RP, we deliberately remained within the boundaries of what could thrive in the nation. I brought this up to him multiple times, both out of character and in roleplay, and I had no issue with adhering to what he viewed as the best path for the kingdom. We recognized that the community we joined was weak, and we worked to strengthen it by removing neighboring bullies and freeloaders, IRP.

The kingdom's safety was bolstered through patrols during periods of conflict and general presence to deter most low-level threats. Eventually, other groups that had historically antagonized Norland would withdraw from their aggression. RP played a significant role in Sólgaard being relatively dependable in protection and retaliation.

Bandits and demons are evil, and so they were killed and driven away from wherever the Norns settled and began to live. Characters did what they were expected to. Yes, those "pvp goons" really took over, and we were so toxic that we worked to RP with others and help the community be more than tavern elitists and grinders. However, many people became complacent and took credit for things they did not do.

 

 

 

The Kingsmoot:

Spoiler

 

 

 

We had expected and looked forward to the Kingsmoot for a while, and many of the later would-be Vansk players kept insinuating that I wanted to take control of and become NL myself. Elrith was privy to this and several remarks and comments from outlanders, even before the group of Norns got settled in. We thought it was a funny joke.

I don't like NLing, and a vast majority of the actual national politics are regurgitations of efforts to mimic Game of Thrones on an OOC level. I enjoy walking around and beating monsters up with a cool sword, attempting to save innocents from the evil banditos, and that is what I do. This does not make me or anyone who finds these things interesting any better than any other player, nor does it make someone lesser. It is an area of interest, and that is all.

The Kingsmoot was conducted with the intention of what my character, Konan-Thegn, believed would be in the nation's best interest. His involvement in the event was so deep that he confessed his reservations about his son's capabilities as king. After all, for the longest time, he had been the only Ruric to contribute anything substantial to the nation actively, and he had actively denied pushing for a Kingsmoot and setting himself up as a monarch over five times. At the SECOND KINGSMOOT, he even killed a distant cousin after receiving a letter showing that one contender (Vali) did not wish to appear at the moot. The cousin wanted to put himself forward and kept sowing dissent, so he snapped and bashed the cousin's head in with a mace. Rurics, in the eyes of the Nornish lifestyle, should not be craven or flee from specific duties or what is viewed as their blood's rights. They should not be vain or absurdly selfish to the point where they would "jeopardize the village" in that character's eyes.

 The Seer nonsense was its own thing, and I elected to ignore it because of its messy nature, both OOC and IRP. As far as I am aware, so did a few others, as it seemed to be something sought after for voiding or to discredit. The opposition to Haakon was given a few different options to even re-attempt the Kingsmoot, and with the interest that it would not be interfered with by Seer tomfoolery ( note: that itself was a third party's involvement, and I have not yet seen it brought up again in-character as something to credit Haakon's rule ).

The founders of Vansk did not publicly attend this Kingsmoot, which prompted a decision to bring the matter to a close. Despite the specific clauses, which even allowed for voting against his son, Konan ( now a Jarl by the High Keeper's command, despite his refusal ), shrugged it off and declared his vote for Haakon. Konan was shown that his son had potential, recognized his intentions were genuine and not out of a yearning for popularity, and supported him. A father’s approval is often sought, and Haakon was no different in this pursuit.

Whatever followed this, I was only half-engaged for the immediacy of what brewed in the cauldron of entertainment. Other narratives on separate personas were more engaging than dealing with REAL_HUSKARLS_OF_AEVOS' dramatics. Following requests, and motivated by loyalty and a desire to prevent further chaos, my character revised the locks. I recall lock changes, and I most certainly remember that these were all reactionary to the fact that this group of characters no longer desired anything to do with Norland and wanted to cripple the nation as much as they could on their way out. That's fine, and that's RP. Your characters wanted to do something, and could do it, just as we could counter it and deny this metaphorical bonfire from spreading beyond the few blocks and secret tunnels it encompassed.

 

 

 

 

What has fallen before Vansk IRP results from the threats, the attacks, and what characters observe as a lack of integrity that various figures within Norland saw and decided to act upon. Nobody has been coaxed into acting out because of X or because of what Y said to Z. 

It has nothing to do with you guys OOC, and I cannot for the life of me recall hearing Elrith or Milen join a VC and say, "Great googly moogly, we're finally rid of these guys. Let's go raid them and drive them off the server."

The only person we have observed encouraging players to leave LotC has been _PR0FIT ( 1 ) ( 2 ). We have not denied a positive interaction with anyone nor endeavored to make prisoners miserable for the few we've had. I have personally tried to get people available who would be interested in doing some prisoner RP, and even treat injuries of other players, to make IRP more than: *swings my sword at you and steals everything that you have.

Two members of the community can attest to this because we've only ever taken those two prisoners before.

Instead, others with whom I have actively interacted and I have sat idly and observed the lashings and persistent melodramatics of what my initial conversation with simpleglitchbro strongly discouraged when it first began to turn into a snowball. Unfortunately, the discussion did not work out. Again, your departure is not something to celebrate, and I am sorry that you feel it must be one way or the other. 

Do I blame everyone in Vansk for what they said about me and others? Absolutely not. I do not think anyone else does either, and no one would be denied the chance to return to Norland IRP or OOC. However, I do fault people for enabling the nonsense to start and spread from one person to another, and I will pray for you all later today. May you be successful in your life's endeavors.

 

God bless you all.

 

 

 

this is specifically for @_Elrith_

 

also check out this baller cinematic made by a helldiver player

 

[Samson Option 9652]

53 minutes ago, M1919 said:

GM, here is the wordsmith post. oblivion remaster is good if you have not played it already

Thanks to the folks who stood up for me as well while I was handling some srs sturfs with da fam

 

 

ahem.

 

 

 

The words here are generally directed toward those it concerns, given that the original poster stated she does not want to give time to LotC. That is fine, and it should be respected. But when you throw a rock at a window, expect the person inside to feel at least somewhat irritated, even if you wanted to dash off swiftly.

 

 

I have largely refrained from commenting much because, for the last couple of weeks, I have been managing personal matters or just finding the reach and words of others comedic, but this is the last straw. To be equated with a domestic abuser is, quite frankly, disingenuous and offensive; for also apparently being labeled and equated similarly as being a murderer by members of your community, merely a few weeks prior, was equally reprehensible. The efforts to manipulate the tragic elements are acknowledged; however, the apparent disregard for ethical standards is disappointing.

I do not harbor hatred toward you; it is not my nature to hate anyone. I bear no animosity toward you despite your constant insults and belittling remarks. Even amid your falsehoods and your group's efforts to twist the truth, I still do not harbor any ill will toward you. Although there were some humorous moments, the excessive insults were annoying. My disappointment does not mean I hate you. I do not enjoy making anyone feel small and irrelevant, and I derive no joy from putting someone down. If someone has said awful things to you or anybody, it was not because I had encouraged that, and I do not endorse it.

I was not absurdly hostile or egregiously rude during the raid, and I reassured many others who were present that they could log out without worrying about consequences. Making a remark about someone who constantly egged on OOC and emoted hilarious anime-style actions, and using a raid ladder after previously being informed it was allowed in similar situations to escape a gate trap is one thing; however, resorting to insults and fabricating absurd allegations or comparisons about players is another. Please don't take this as a dismissal of the gravity of something that seemed genuine to me, and do not fall victim to the notion that you are being harassed for wanting to nation lead.

Despite the criticisms, I am unconvinced that anyone in the Norn community actively celebrated your departure from the server. Then again, I'm not around too often to unveil every bit and piece of would-be silliness.

Nevertheless, I do not know most of you; my interactions have primarily been with a few players targeting us, including those who later founded Vansk, since the early days of the Norns. At that time, and even just a couple of months ago, it was heavily leeching off your OOC aims to try and deter the Norn culture from ever assimilating within Norland itself. Our personas, at least from what I can recall, have done nothing to oppose your characters on the server until the Kingsmoot transpired. Yes, even when you were actively making jabs in VC about Veletz's nonsense. It did not matter because it was trivial and childish.

There is a misconstrued belief from you, or someone around you, that you are the ones who have been under threat since the day that my friends and I said,

"Vikings? Why not?"

It has not been, and we have not actively sought to attack you. Notably, a considerable contingent of the Norns' First Blood was returning to the nation or community they had been part of years prior.

As frustrating as your group had been to deal with, we shrugged it off for well over a year. Most of the differences were ignored, and we let it be. After all, entering someone's house and telling them to rearrange the furniture in their living room is rude. The only conflict with your community stemmed from the development's IRP.

 

 

I'll sort out a few small sections here:

The settling & arrival of the Norns:

  Reveal hidden contents

 

 

Prior to the arrival of the Norns' motte and bailey castle, Norland faced persistent threats from various land-grabbing factions eager to exploit the nation’s resources. These groups were often larger, more powerful entities aimed at capitalizing on Norland's wealth and strategic advantages. Dissenting factions, fueled by players with prior in-character conflicts, were also present; a common issue across the server. Our strength mirrored these dissenting groups, making it harder to accost the nation.

Before the kingsmoot, our activities for almost a year were dedicated to assisting Elrith and fulfilling his wishes. While we had our interests for RP, we deliberately remained within the boundaries of what could thrive in the nation. I brought this up to him multiple times, both out of character and in roleplay, and I had no issue with adhering to what he viewed as the best path for the kingdom. We recognized that the community we joined was weak, and we worked to strengthen it by removing neighboring bullies and freeloaders, IRP.

The kingdom's safety was bolstered through patrols during periods of conflict and general presence to deter most low-level threats. Eventually, other groups that had historically antagonized Norland would withdraw from their aggression. RP played a significant role in Sólgaard being relatively dependable in protection and retaliation.

Bandits and demons are evil, and so they were killed and driven away from wherever the Norns settled and began to live. Characters did what they were expected to. Yes, those "pvp goons" really took over, and we were so toxic that we worked to RP with others and help the community be more than tavern elitists and grinders. However, many people became complacent and took credit for things they did not do.

 

 

 

The Kingsmoot:

  Reveal hidden contents

 

 

 

We had expected and looked forward to the Kingsmoot for a while, and many of the later would-be Vansk players kept insinuating that I wanted to take control of and become NL myself. Elrith was privy to this and several remarks and comments from outlanders, even before the group of Norns got settled in. We thought it was a funny joke.

I don't like NLing, and a vast majority of the actual national politics are regurgitations of efforts to mimic Game of Thrones on an OOC level. I enjoy walking around and beating monsters up with a cool sword, attempting to save innocents from the evil banditos, and that is what I do. This does not make me or anyone who finds these things interesting any better than any other player, nor does it make someone lesser. It is an area of interest, and that is all.

The Kingsmoot was conducted with the intention of what my character, Konan-Thegn, believed would be in the nation's best interest. His involvement in the event was so deep that he confessed his reservations about his son's capabilities as king. After all, for the longest time, he had been the only Ruric to contribute anything substantial to the nation actively, and he had actively denied pushing for a Kingsmoot and setting himself up as a monarch over five times. At the SECOND KINGSMOOT, he even killed a distant cousin after receiving a letter showing that one contender (Vali) did not wish to appear at the moot. The cousin wanted to put himself forward and kept sowing dissent, so he snapped and bashed the cousin's head in with a mace. Rurics, in the eyes of the Nornish lifestyle, should not be craven or flee from specific duties or what is viewed as their blood's rights. They should not be vain or absurdly selfish to the point where they would "jeopardize the village" in that character's eyes.

 The Seer nonsense was its own thing, and I elected to ignore it because of its messy nature, both OOC and IRP. As far as I am aware, so did a few others, as it seemed to be something sought after for voiding or to discredit. The opposition to Haakon was given a few different options to even re-attempt the Kingsmoot, and with the interest that it would not be interfered with by Seer tomfoolery ( note: that itself was a third party's involvement, and I have not yet seen it brought up again in-character as something to credit Haakon's rule ).

The founders of Vansk did not publicly attend this Kingsmoot, which prompted a decision to bring the matter to a close. Despite the specific clauses, which even allowed for voting against his son, Konan ( now a Jarl by the High Keeper's command, despite his refusal ), shrugged it off and declared his vote for Haakon. Konan was shown that his son had potential, recognized his intentions were genuine and not out of a yearning for popularity, and supported him. A father’s approval is often sought, and Haakon was no different in this pursuit.

Whatever followed this, I was only half-engaged for the immediacy of what brewed in the cauldron of entertainment. Other narratives on separate personas were more engaging than dealing with REAL_HUSKARLS_OF_AEVOS' dramatics. Following requests, and motivated by loyalty and a desire to prevent further chaos, my character revised the locks. I recall lock changes, and I most certainly remember that these were all reactionary to the fact that this group of characters no longer desired anything to do with Norland and wanted to cripple the nation as much as they could on their way out. That's fine, and that's RP. Your characters wanted to do something, and could do it, just as we could counter it and deny this metaphorical bonfire from spreading beyond the few blocks and secret tunnels it encompassed.

 

 

 

 

What has fallen before Vansk IRP results from the threats, the attacks, and what characters observe as a lack of integrity that various figures within Norland saw and decided to act upon. Nobody has been coaxed into acting out because of X or because of what Y said to Z. 

It has nothing to do with you guys OOC, and I cannot for the life of me recall hearing Elrith or Milen join a VC and say, "Great googly moogly, we're finally rid of these guys. Let's go raid them and drive them off the server."

The only person we have observed encouraging players to leave LotC has been _PR0FIT ( 1 ) ( 2 ). We have not denied a positive interaction with anyone nor endeavored to make prisoners miserable for the few we've had. I have personally tried to get people available who would be interested in doing some prisoner RP, and even treat injuries of other players, to make IRP more than: *swings my sword at you and steals everything that you have.

Two members of the community can attest to this because we've only ever taken those two prisoners before.

Instead, others with whom I have actively interacted and I have sat idly and observed the lashings and persistent melodramatics of what my initial conversation with simpleglitchbro strongly discouraged when it first began to turn into a snowball. Unfortunately, the discussion did not work out. Again, your departure is not something to celebrate, and I am sorry that you feel it must be one way or the other. 

Do I blame everyone in Vansk for what they said about me and others? Absolutely not. I do not think anyone else does either, and no one would be denied the chance to return to Norland IRP or OOC. However, I do fault people for enabling the nonsense to start and spread from one person to another, and I will pray for you all later today. May you be successful in your life's endeavors.

 

God bless you all.

 

 

 

this is specifically for @_Elrith_

 

also check out this baller cinematic made by a helldiver player

 

 

Reading a sober, well-adjusted person's retort is euphoric. Gives me some confidence that the server has a number of like-minded, well-behaved players with their heads on their shoulders right.

 

 

[Smmer 2441]

Idrc anymore, rememebr redacteds to not disregard people’s feelings, correct them don’t belittle them. Don’t make them feel less than, explain yourselves without being condescending who the hell does that help. People have their own perception of events, if those events are never checked up on or corrected then yes malice will grow and people will harbor discontent and make up their own assumptions.

What’s important is those events are corrected, what’s important is we remain civil and stop treating this as some sort of joke post to gain rep farm from are you actually so pathetic? are you genuinely that desperate? play cookie clicker. It’ll give you the same neurological satisfaction as when you rep-redacted on the forums under someone’s post to “aura farm”.

 

 

This isn’t targeted to anyone specific it’s a general reminder since mods suck at actual content moderation, you’re always free to comment your own statements and opinions but don’t be the person who attacks another player for something that they didn’t know? or misunderstood. Try to explain and that’s it, that is literally it that’s all you have to do is just give your side if you’re involved or know more details to clarify a situation and press post. 

 

 

[IrradiatedGoose 305]

Since we have decided to attack people for having learning disabilities and trying to make roleplay more fun, this post will be riddled with my own. Yes it will be all over the place, yes it will be a mess, cope and seethe <3 (I dont care what happens from this). First off, this was handled incredibly poorly and a grasp at straws because something didnt go the way it was supposed to, and so... womp womp?
 

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"Elrith and other members of the community join VC drunk or engage in roleplay while being noticeably inebriated to the point other players outside the community OOCly questioned the state of their sobriety during roleplay."

Sooooo.... where is my complaint? So what if someone is drinking and they are of the legal drinking age (of whatever country) and playing video games? Is that a crime now? Lock me up gents.
 

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"M1919 claimed that simpleglitchbro was being insulting to people that M1919 claimed he did not even care to talk to. (A common abuser tactic to gaslight their victim into believing that the victim is actually the problem)

M1919 claimed that simpleglitchbro is attempting to “grand-stand a martyrdom over metaplay or some other nonsense”. (They continue to downplay and write off the IRP and OOC issues that led to this encounter as nonsense and grand-standing.)

M1919 then offers for those who leave to come back and that nothing will change, and that all will be well, and to “stop while you are ahead.” (This is common in abusive relationships, the abuser promising that things will be better if the victim just gives them one more chance.)"

"There is a claim to “slandering” people OOCly, which blatantly did not take place. This directly goes against Community Guidelines on Deceit, as detailed below"

Insinuating abuse and manipulation is from someone is downright defamation and slander. I'm aware not everyone is in the same country but for reference here you go. Also wondering why the slandering claim is being used when it's being done blatantly in the document.



 

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"using ChatGPT to write emotes, navigate interpersonal discussions, and formulate responses"
 

So we're attacking people for trying to make roleplay and discussions easier and to accommodate others due to learning disabilities? I have that correct? Cool so I guess we should prosecute everyone then. 
 

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"My classmates had pointed out how distracted and reactive I had become leading up to my leave as I grappled with the fact that I wasn’t happy in Norland anymore and it gave me stress that was affecting my education."

This should have been the first notion to take a break from the silly mineman server and focus on academics.

 

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"announcement referring to the establishment as the “Golden Lyre"

Names are common, neat. Ideas are similar, neat.
 

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"Grievances Lacking Physical Evidence, but have testimonials"

Maybe use evidence to actually back the argument.

Now that I've picked through.... 61? pages of the poorly put together document, msot of this boils down to as not seperating RP from OOC. In which, granted a lot of the server still needs to work on, is not responsible for others in the scenario to take responsibility for someone elses actions. Also, a good chunk of this boils down to something not going a certain way during the Kingsmoot (which I was present for) and led to a full blowout due to not getting what was wanted... oh well... shame...

TLDR; This is poorly put together, grasping at any length of straw to prove a point, blatant defamation and slander (an argument which is attempted to be used in the document), and crying about roleplay. So I guess... cool? 

Feel free to message me about it on discord, will I answer it? probably not. 

[Samson Option 9652]

2 hours ago, Narthok said:

I think the hysterical losers writing these big nothingburger whine threads and google docs should be banned for being soft and causing unnecessary drama. 

 

I know this isn't a popular idea because players seem to want to treat video game addicts with kid-gloves when that is the worst thing to do - but if World of Warcraft can put out advisories for people to touch grass, then little ol LotC can ban players who have demonstrated that they "got lost in the sauce" to use that metaphor. If you need that metaphor spelled out, I'll be glad to do so. As an ex-moderator, dealing with the players who have lost sense with (real world) reality can be the most difficult because they ironically are the ones most prone to try & manipulate/gaslight/girlboss you.

[jqsmlne 460]

Spoiler

"Influencing diplomatic relationships over discord. In the screenshots below you can see a member of Norland leadership (Io/Ichigomaster) give misleading information in the Nevaehlen discord on the status of Norland-Nevaehlen diplomatic relations. Not only should this information not be shared over discord as a means to influence rp, but this information is also not correct. The last treaty Norland and Nevaehlen signed was a military alliance that expired when either nations’ leaders no longer ruled. This was signed when CandleDragon/Dyonne and Elrith/High Keeper Ellenore were the leaders of their respective nations. Neither are irply leaders of their nation anymore."

Let's adress the above.

 

1. You seem to have forgotten to add context to Io's messages. Let me do that for you.

This was said, right before Io explained we had a defensive pact. Basically, they are giving context as to how we are besties.

 

2. I know seer’s exist oocly. It’s lore you can easily read on the forums. That doesn’t mean I go around screaming seer’s exist in game. It’s metagame when you metagame it. In what way will this “influence” rp? The NL’s clearly are aware of what pacts they have.

 

3. "This was signed when CandleDragon/Dyonne and Elrith/High Keeper Ellenore were the leaders of their respective nations. Neither are irply leaders of their nation anymore."

 

I'm sorry, I'm not quite sure why this matters or was mentioned. Let me show you why I'm confused:

 

Let me define "indefinite" to you. Indefinite: Lasting for an unknown or unstated length of time.

 

Norland and Nevaehlen have had an ongoing relation since 2022.

 

You can see for yourself:

 

 

5. Io is saying they are a reliable source because they were NL's when Norland and Nevaehlen for the first time became allies, proven by what is linked above.

 

6. Lastly I want to give some context. We were right after the next map being announced on the forums and tiles already chosen, wondering the distance between Norland and Nevaehlen, where someone asked "aren't norland our besties?" and Io responded "yes" and then mentioned the pacts as a reference to their close bond.

 

I personally call that a conversation.

 

 

 

[Narthok 10416]

 

Bro it has been 7+ years why am I still catching strays

[drfate786 1690]

I read the document and as an old-head of Norland I can say with confidence that most of it is horribly misinformed. They could of easily accused the Newlanders of metaplaying by OOC'ly trying to force their own outcomes (which they and almost all nations do regularly) and left it there. Instead, we have some big convoluted 20 page manual with a thousand different reaches going off in all different directions.

 

Metaplay is an issue with every nation on the server from when I last played. They're so afraid of RP consequences/conflicts that they tend to create hugboxes around themselves and forcibly curate roleplay. Then, when we end up with situations like this one, the RP solution becomes impossible due to interference and toxicity from all sides. 

 

@ShinyB The best thing you and your clique can do if they genuinely did hurt you guys is leave Norland. Take as many players with you as possible and cease all contact OOC'ly. Don't speak to them on discord, don't speak to them in LOOC or OOC. Resume RP and take it ALL into roleplay. If they metaplay, become toxic or try anything OOC'ly, simply don't engage them. You speak directly to moderation and only moderation. Outside of roleplay, no one is forcing you to interact with these people.

[Luto 439]

you're not an abuse victim because someone insulted you on minecraft, do not weaponize these very real life terms just to artificially garnish your post with twitterchungus outrage

Edited May 20, 2025 by Luto