Happy Pride Month!

[Vaynth 3005]

This is a step in the right direction. Happy pride month!

[Cobbler 809]

2 minutes ago, Fluffy Horror said:

@CrevelI have been on this server for two months and this is already one of the most problematic games I have witnessed in my over three decades of a lifetime. Just because I haven't been on this server for long doesn't mean that I'm incapable of reading the room. I've seen more casual racial, homophobic, and transphobic slurs OOC and IC in these two months than I have since I was in middle school on 4chan. The amount of people I've met that I would trust to be nuanced with homophobia, I can count on one hand.

 

I guess my initial question would be is if you've reported these instances? Not hating at all though if you're seeing more racism, homophobic and transphobic slurs both OOC and IC in two months than you've seen on forums like 4chan than I'd hope you'd report it as it's already a bannable offense.

[monkeypoacher 8053]

27 minutes ago, Crevel said:

 

You have been on this server for less than two months compared to the countless people who have been on the server for years expressing those and other opinions. Frankly, I don't think you have any ground to discount the experiences of their roleplay and narratives, and then give your own unexperienced view of what this server is and has been about or what people can be trusted to do. The only thing I agree with you on is that there are underage players here which is why we need to be incredibly vigilant about allowing people to utilise characters on LotC that are used off-platform in a sexual manner.

weeks of trying to drum up this moral panic and still no names or examples because only one of the two of us is brave enough to admit he's seen the quavinir mpreg art

 

if you have a problem with characters being "used off-platform in a sexual manner" maybe you should write a report?

[Fluffy Horror 496]

@CobblerI very much wanted to! But when I brought it up to more experienced LOTC players, I was adamantly advised not to because it apparently would put a target on my back. Repeatedly, with every infraction I found, by many different players. The consensus was "don't rock the boat", which is in itself a problem, because when you have that many players afraid of reporting something for fear of retribution, that's a red flag.

 

The one time I did report something, nothing was done about it and I never heard from the mod I reported it to again.

 

Hell, I have seen STAFF MEMBERS using slurs and making transphobic, racist, and homophobic jokes.

Edited June 5, 2025 by Fluffy Horror

[Crevel 7557]

13 minutes ago, monkeypoacher said:

if you have a problem with characters being "used off-platform in a sexual manner" maybe you should write a report?

 

Those characters being used off-platform in a sexual way isn't against the rules which is the issue that needs to be addressed because reports otherwise don't do anything. The rule needs to change because otherwise nothing meaningful is done until there is proof of them concretely ERPing or doing some other form of inappropriate RP on the server despite the character already having a background of being utilised sexually off-platform. When people name those individuals involved in NSFW off-platform situations, you get harassment and/or toxicity infractions. I'm not sure why you're bringing up Quavinir stuff when it's not relevant. I've seen the content he's engaged with, the profile he had and then edited to hide it from people trying to find it which included his interests such as ageplay (not sure if it still says it, it's been a few years). The difference with Quavinir is that he very plainly acted out some of his interests on LotC and that's why he was banned years ago. You can say his name in relation to these things because he was actively banned for it. This isn't the gotcha you think it is. 

[monkeypoacher 8053]

6 minutes ago, Crevel said:

 

Those characters being used off-platform in a sexual way isn't against the rules is the issue that needs to be addressed so reports don't do anything. The rule needs to change because otherwise nothing meaningful is done until there is proof of them concretely ERPing or doing some other form of inappropriate RP on the server despite the character already having a background of being utilised sexually off-platform When people name those individuals involved, you get harassment and/or toxicity infractions. I'm not sure why you're bringing up Quavinir stuff when it's not relevant. I've seen the content he's engaged with, the profile he had and then edited to hide it from people trying to find it which incouded his interests such as ageplay. The difference with Quavinir is that he very plainly acted out some of his interests on LotC and that's why he was banned years ago. This isn't the gotcha you think it is. 

yes and the rules didn't have an explicit provision against grooming either, if there is an ongoing concern for someone's safety or well-being involving off-platform erp you should report it , rules or not

 

the reason you are getting dinged for harassment is precisely the same reason why no one benefits from you grandstanding about it on the forums. these are sensitive issues and the staff want to be able to take action on them without it blowing back on the victim

 

this is pretty basic stuff

[Vikenz 1162]

Terrible implementation that is going to destroy years of Lore. If it's an issue, just ban the oocly homophobic people, but rp is rp. 

[Pearlescent 585]

1 minute ago, Vikenz said:

Terrible implementation that is going to destroy years of Lore. If it's an issue, just ban the oocly homophobic people, but rp is rp. 

Making people feel safe so very terrible...

[sarahbarah 7105]

8 minutes ago, Vikenz said:

Terrible implementation that is going to destroy years of Lore. If it's an issue, just ban the oocly homophobic people, but rp is rp. 

 

perhaps the lore on a minecraft fantasy roleplay server should not be homophobic in the first place

[Solour 526]

8 minutes ago, Vikenz said:

Terrible implementation that is going to destroy years of Lore. If it's an issue, just ban the oocly homophobic people, but rp is rp. 

be careful ur making too much sense

[Ramon 5186]

8 hours ago, Fluffy Horror said:

@CrevelI have been on this server for two months and this is already one of the most problematic games I have witnessed in my over three decades of a lifetime. Just because I haven't been on this server for long doesn't mean that I'm incapable of reading the room. I've seen more casual racial, homophobic, and transphobic slurs OOC and IC in these two months than I have since I was in middle school on 4chan. The amount of people I've met that I would trust to be nuanced with homophobia, I can count on one hand.

 

Before the inevitable "quit if you don't like it!"- I'm having fun, it was just a massive culture shock, and I'm glad to see it taking steps in the right direction.

 

"Do not cite the old laws, I was there when they were written" and all that.

I guess I'm wondering what your impression of people asking if this ruleset will interfere with the doctrines of irp religions is. What do you think would be their intended endgame here?

also where have you been playing that you've supposedly seen more casual racism/homophobia/transphobia and whatever else than on infamous 4chan bro

[Crevel 7557]

11 minutes ago, monkeypoacher said:

explicit provision against grooming either

 

It does actually. https://www.lordofthecraft.net/safety/

 

"A player is found to be grooming a member of the community" 

 

12 minutes ago, monkeypoacher said:

the reason you are getting dinged for harassment i

 

I'm not the one getting warnings for harassment actually because I make sure my behaviour lies within the confines of the rules. The people who actually name these sorts of individuals, and have in some cases contributed to reports on them, have gotten infractions for it because as far as staff are concerned if it isn't happening on-platform it's not their jurisdiction which would be understandable were it not for these characters also being used on LotC where such reports have been dismissed for off-platform reasons. You can't say to make a report when the reports aren't doing anything and haven't been doing anything for years

[Morphine 823]

Alea iacta est...

[iris1612 1780]

i am both gay and trans irl.

The rule is obviously well-intentioned, and some types of this rp  (for instance using rp as an outlet for OOC bigotry, or saying slurs) should be banned. But I don't think that transphobia and homophobia should be outright banned irp.

 

I personally enjoy rping in socially conservative places: most of my characters are gay in a society that is not openly tolerant of homosexuality, and that's part of their story and what makes them interesting to me. I think people should be allowed to roleplay characters who are prejudiced, as long as they are doing so maturely and understanding that the prejudice makes their character a villain.

I welcome this as a rule banning irp prejudice as a mouthpiece for ooc prejudice, but I am a little sad to see more limits on the types of stories that can be told on this medium.

 

[laugh_giggletehe 113]

Heh... I guess the real phobia all along was the people angry about denoting hatred. That's all, folks!