[Complete] Report (Kardika)

[CasualNuker 1113]

Player(s) Being Reported

Kardika

 

Rule(s) Broken

Powergaming, Trolling, Horse Jumps, PvP Fort violation.

 

Player(s) Involved

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Explanation

 

Rule Violations we believe may have been committed:

1. Do not participate in or encourage metagaming or powergaming.

2. Do not troll or meme in roleplay; follow the Roleplay Standards. Always remain in character while in roleplay chat channels.

3. Information on your persona card must match your character; you must always have your persona’s age and race on the card - you may not adjust your character's age artificially to avoid aging.

4. You may not access areas you cannot get to in roleplay. This includes using boats, horses, or 'horse parkour' to bypass walls higher than 3 blocks in height, or gaps wider than 4 blocks in length.

5. Do not make an area only accessible through breaking blocks mechanically to enter. There must be a mechanism in place for entry, such as a door, gate, or redstone door. This rule also applies to storage containers and shop-chests. Moderation may open doors/gates at their discretion if there is no appropriate entry point.

 

Over the last month or so, Kardika has targeted the Imperial Guard in the Empire of Man heavily and extensively nearly every night at the same time period between 9 pm EST and 3 am EST for weeks on end without ceasing. In these attacks, he has violated a lot of rules of the server, and even beforehand, he has violated rules. 

 

1. So we shall start with the first rule broken on powergaming, on numerous engagements with Kardika, the Imperial Guard has caught him in the act of evading blows with little logical sense, such as side-stepping a surrounded door in Stirland to sprint six blocks away in full plate armor. This is just one example of him doing such; others can be found in the moderation logs. We are sure of such.. 

 

2. As for violation of the no meme and troll RP rules we have found him on several occasions to do low level troll RP of where his character will ride by a formation of armed Imperial Guards laughing at them in such manner as “Heheheheteehehehee” and he’ll repeat said emote two or three times hoping to bait us into an attack. This also applies to the fact that every emote he does is always low-quality and has a proven track record of only being banditry RP. 

 

3. For our third violation, his persona card is an ever-changing card between the names John Oren, Jonathan Orenius, and Vindacus on slot II. All of which we believe is an attempt to legitimize the same character that he has committed banditry acts upon for over a year now. Furthermore, this same persona, according to numerous people, has been in use as a human character for coming up on two hundred years in RP, which makes him well past the age of 150, where humans die, and even further past the 80-year-old marker, where humans degenerate into feebleness.
4. For this particular one, it comes from an incident on 8-20-2025, where Kardika got inside the city with his crew when the gates were closed, all doors were untampered, and the only way in would have been through a few illegal horse jumps over the rule limit.. This has been noticed previously in other raids that Kardika has been part of, as I’ve heard from other players.
5. Now, lastly, this violation is regarding the PvP fort they built in the Horde known as “The Rock,” which is a fort built on one of the desert spires where it is unladderable, and they’ve further made it unbreakable to get into without a full siege warclaim. It is surrounded by spikes that impale you if you drop from too high, trapdoors on top negate any arrow fire from the grounds below, and there are dozens of doors to lockpick to get inside.. Furthermore, everything is controlled by gate signs that block off any access to some of the locked doors.. In short, this fort is unattackable for any side that opposes it as it currently stands, the other week.
6. This is an additional rule violation of a rule I could not find on forums, but have been quoted before, and that is fleeing a fight/raid he started.. He SS’ed away from a fight on 8-20-25 after the Imperial Guard called CRP on the fight (which occurred at the gate by the Imperial Bank in Grense), such was permitted for certain players who could not CRP; however, the entirety of his rally SS’ed away, avoiding CRP entirely..

 

This concludes the report on behalf of the Imperial Guard; however, I am making this an open report as I know many have seen violations committed by Kardika over his span on the server, and you may wish to see them brought to light here. So if you have screenshots, words, or testimony on what he has done, I encourage anyone on LOTC to write below and decide on their course of action.

 

 

Relevant Material

Evidence

Evidence can be found in the moderation logs of events that have occurred previously.

 

Aevos

08/20/25

 

Evidence of uncooperative conduct.

Evidence

Such as has been attempted by moderation previously via villainy blacklists, and warnings.. All to no avail.

 

Desired Result of Report

Ban

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[Irishmanmichael 504]

I witnessed a portion of the behaviors mentioned in the post most specifically the utilizing of the paused conflict system to utilize a fort within the horde that essentially has no none warclaim counter and consistently pick up random people in an attempt to bait group to their fort for PvP as well they will often try to engage in a conflict demand PvP then when guard default votes for crp they will SS or immediately emote running away.

[Kardika 1057]

 

Targeting Imperial Guard Claim: the purpose of my little bandit salvo group is to fight back against the large nations using guerilla tactics. The empire is currently the largest nation and so we attack them most often, that's just how it is. We bandit all the other nations and roads throughout Aevos. I will reiterate we don't target the Imperial guard, we attack every nation. Just today we had a big battle with numendil.

In regards to it being 9 pm est to 3 am est, such a claim is not entirely inaccurate. The timeframe of 7pm-1am would probably be more accurate because that's when I generally have free time.

You also mention me violating rules before, that I have already been punished for accordingly so no need to bring that up.

 

1. The first point, powergaming. I would like to see the logs of such examples you mention before I respond in detail. I am not the perfect rper and sometimes I slip up and end up powergaming unintentionally, I will admit to this.
    

Regarding the Stirland door incident you mentioned specifically, I sort of remember that. If I recall correctly when I ran past the door the two of you were not pressed up against the door, leaving ample space for someone to run past. Speaking of 6 blocks, 6 blocks is the maximum distance you can run in full plate army when focused solely on sprinting which I was doing.
 

2. As for troll RP, yes I admit that some of my rp is not top tier. However, during my villany blacklist I was told by a mod to put more effort in. After the conversation with the moderator, there was a definite increase in rp quality from me.

 

In regards to the next statement about me running past guards in Imperial land, yes I did that. When the soldiers are lined up with about 5 people camping the gates from anyone trying to get in, there is not much a bandit character can do besides taunt them before scurrying away. Using a brief emote of my character saying “hehehehehe” briefly when I pass you or others on horseback should not really be used as an example for low-quality rp since many people do singular passing emotes. During actual encounters where my character is not on the move I have the capacity to conduct quality roleplay, I can cite sources if needed.

 

3. For the third violation claim, my persona card. If you didn’t know by now Vindacus and John Oren are the same guy. For casualnuker it does not matter whatever name or armor I wear on that slot he always demands me to unhelm myself when he sees me so idk.
   
   In regards to me using the same character on my persona card after a hundred plus years, yes the allegations are true. I just like playing Vindacus, I take month or multiple month long breaks from lotc and like to come back to a character that's already established in the world. I have seen other people also using hundred year plus characters on lotc without staff telling them off about it. If the staff decide that I must PK my character, that is fine.
    
4. Regarding the incident where we got into the imperial city on 8-20-2025. There was a legal 2 block tall horse jump which was able to also be parkoured into with normal parkour. As well, I have staff there who were present that can confirm it was legal. I can show moderation the spot if needed, it may have been patched as of now so perhaps we can rollback that spot to see.
   
   You mention the one illegal horse jump incident that heavily contributed to my villany blacklist, well that's why I made extra sure this horse jump was legal.

 

5. Regarding the rock. The rock is siegable without a warclaim, there are only 2 gates on the bottom level at the moment. All of which can be broken through if the attacker is prepared with bolt cutters. It is possible to circumnavigate the subsequent gates at the top as well.
   
   Regarding spikes, yes there are spikes at the bottom of the fort It is a part of the defenses and have thus far have no reason to believe that they are not allowed when I have witnessed similar defenses on other forts.
   
   About it being unladderable, I don’t know how far ladders can go up so I made the walls as tall as I could. The Lore for the rock is that it has been carved out the side of a giant rock, ya know, like casterly rock, so it seems reasonable to me that it would have high walls. We can lower the level of the ramparts if staff decide it is needed.
   
   About negating arrow fire, that is false. You are able to be hit by arrows when on top of the ramparts.
   
   Your claim that the rock is unsiegable is incorrect, it is definitely siegable without a warclaim. It is not my fault you guys couldn’t push past the first set of doors.
   
   You cite a rule for the fort but that rule doesnt apply since it is fully accessible to someone or a group that is dedicated. One time I found the gate at the top ajar meaning that someone was able to lockpick all the way through the lower defenses that you claim are unbreakable.
   
   Regarding us kidnapping people to get them to attack us, we have only done that a few times and can absolutely stop doing that if staff decide so.

 

6. Regarding this incident that occurred on 8-20-20, since it was late our side and some of the imperial guard suggested pvp at the time. On both sides people said it was late and requested to log off. Frisket, who took charge of the Imperial side (defenders) said that the crp would likely take 2 or more hours to conduct and if not then people were free to log off. That being said, several players of both the attackers and defenders logged off, I was one of them because it was late and i didnt have time to do a crp raid instead of a pvp raid. Since we were given permission to leave and the encounter was agreed to be voided by the leaders of both sides. I feel this to be a non-issue since an amicable conclusion to the encounter was agreed to at the time.
   
   I have screenshots of the chat messages saying people could leave, you can also find it in logs probably.
   
   That being said, people didn’t leave because it seemed to be unwinnable, people left because of how long it was going to take and they didn’t have time for a large group crp encounter. Usually raids are pvp so people were expecting a shorter pvp encounter. I apologize for not properly preparing for a drawn out crp encounter.

 

Edited August 22, 2025 by Kardika

[ChainedDragons 1374]

I was at the attack for the fort 'The Rock' - the attack went on much longer than it should have due to how the build was made. I do not mind taking time for PVP. I mind when it's clearly a one sided fight that isn't winnable. 

[Frostdrop1 1843]

I rarely encounter them directly, mostly indirectly through seeing the running around on a horse looking for combat and some one-liners here and there. Albeit, the one time I have roleplayed with them it was pretty poor. It was basically just low tier bandit rp without actual banditing. It was permissible, but low tier trash. This guy cannot cook. He said about six lines worth of roleplay among a group that was otherwise doing all the actual back-and-fourth and meaningful decision end of the rp. He ended with the classic "heheheheheheheh…. Hehehe…."  of course. It was not an incident to report because, frankly, they didn't break any rules in a major way and I didn't care enough - the whole rp had simply devolved to sub-par emotes by that point seen as no one could actually afford to take the time to write with the potential of just emote spam which is not something these types of players are above. We were all aware of the report the prior day and simply could not afford to just bet on them being decent. In the end, they were just bad at rp and it was obvious they were only there for conflict RP so when they didn't get it, they left rather than trying to pick up on any dialogue strands left over with the de-escalation. So, it was really just a waste of time on his end for the most part - the other player he was with contributed a considerable deal more to making it meaningful. That said, they weren't toxic in OOC and we were honestly just relieved they weren't complete rubbish.

I only truly bother mentioning because it's been invited and is generally part of a pattern of behaviour of the classic bandit that we're all aware of that contributes very little to the server overall and is generally sub-par to deal with. The chores of the server. Even if you haven't rp'd with this guy, you already know them because they're the same as every other bandit that doesn't know how to make villainy meaningful and isn't particularly interested in improving. Here, Kardika is somewhat just representative of them and everything they get away with. Kardika is definitely not the most aggregious example running around presently. Banning them would certainly set a precedent for the other like-minded people - but I'm not sure they care. I would prefer to simply see Kardika and similar people just try. However, I am left unsure what could be done to encourage such folk to make an attempt since they generally don't seem to fall into the category of people that are on the server because they care about narrative. That said, as far as I know maybe all of these people are just kids or just don't have the skills necessary to make quality rp. The prevelance of these folks really just speaks to an underlying issue with how LOTC's format and rules perhaps promote this behaviour among certain demographics.

[Irishmanmichael 504]

Seeing a lot of people defending Kardika here and that’s their right but their points about how the guards of the empire could help by contributing to the bandits stories does Really work when after hunting his down five and still appears to be on the same side it becomes kind of a moot point. As well the other issue comes in when a bandit is only doing banditing for the sake of getting in the fight and continuously targeting the same people over and over again. And he complains about it being late at night for them and not having time for crp but that begs the question if he actually wanted a compelling bandit story would he only ever do it at a time when he has to quickly leave after. I am not sure if a full ban is warranted or will happen but even if Kardika has broke enough rules to warrant it. His behavior is certainly not that of someone who wishes to actually make bandit rp enjoyable for all parties and simply continues the same behavior ever single night making it impossible for many of the Empires guard to enjoy their time lotc as every evening their stuck holding a rally together waiting to deal with Kardika and he might want to PvP constantly but the guards of the empire are not solely on this server to wait for PvP they want to rp and have other development. So I firmly believe Kardika either needs to change this behavior and realize he can clicks on many servers better meant for frequent PvP or he can simply chill and not bother the imperial capital constantly while abusing the fact that the empire can’t rally to destroy them due to their anti infiltration fort combined with no warclaims.

[Dcsword 237]

40 minutes ago, Irishmanmichael said:

Seeing a lot of people defending Kardika here and that’s their right but their points about how the guards of the empire could help by contributing to the bandits stories does Really work when after hunting his down five and still appears to be on the same side it becomes kind of a moot point. As well the other issue comes in when a bandit is only doing banditing for the sake of getting in the fight and continuously targeting the same people over and over again. And he complains about it being late at night for them and not having time for crp but that begs the question if he actually wanted a compelling bandit story would he only ever do it at a time when he has to quickly leave after. I am not sure if a full ban is warranted or will happen but even if Kardika has broke enough rules to warrant it. His behavior is certainly not that of someone who wishes to actually make bandit rp enjoyable for all parties and simply continues the same behavior ever single night making it impossible for many of the Empires guard to enjoy their time lotc as every evening their stuck holding a rally together waiting to deal with Kardika and he might want to PvP constantly but the guards of the empire are not solely on this server to wait for PvP they want to rp and have other development. So I firmly believe Kardika either needs to change this behavior and realize he can clicks on many servers better meant for frequent PvP or he can simply chill and not bother the imperial capital constantly while abusing the fact that the empire can’t rally to destroy them due to their anti infiltration fort combined with no warclaims.

whats a guards job if not to protect the citizens of the empire matter of fact what do guards do other than fight off bandits and protect the people of the empire sure guards shouldnt solely focus on pvp "bandit rp enjoyable for all parties" those are words that contradict each other no one is happy being bandited and getting their stuff robbed you can make it a more enjoyable instance by not being toxic in ooc (this goes out to both sides) and onto your impossible to raid fort thats a funny statement to me you can raid kardikas fort without a wc its just a hassle his fort doesnt break the rules by making it hard to raid and youre telling me the imperial guard cannot take 1 fort in a rescue raid if they rallied imo thats just a bad take -1

[sapphic_spidy 1089]

hi guys i played the kidnapped character and want to add a bit

 

The RP for it was good and high quality. Kardika and the other people involved checked in with me multiple times to make sure I was comfortable with the rp, and messaged me privately that I could leave if I wanted during the raid. I've never had issues with kardika rp, and honestly, he plays one of the few bandits I find to actually be fun to interact with. Even if it's a lot of "hehehe thou shalt not passeth," I don't see how that's the biggest issue. At least it's interesting and does something a lot of other bandits don't bother to do.

 

OOCly at least, as I mentioned, Kardika has always been non-toxic to me. Whenever we insult each other, it's as a joke, because we both check in with each other and make sure we aren't going too far. 

 

As far as I heard about The Raid (TM), there were no ladder kits brought, a very small amount of lockpicks, no boltcutters, etc. So idk if it can be said that it wasn't break-in-able outside of a warclaim, when that couldn't really have been tested. Everyone retreated from that fight anyways, so I don't see the big deal when very few people lost anything, and could have left at any time.

[winterblood 11181]

STOP SCROLLING THROUGH THE COMMENTS!!

 

This is a forum robbery.  Hand over your rep, unless you want to end up in the ditch 

[Xarkly 17299]

alright fine **** it I'll take this one

 

Response tonight . Maybe .

[Pegleg_Bob 1107]

4 hours ago, Irishmanmichael said:

Seeing a lot of people defending Kardika here and that’s their right but their points about how the guards of the empire could help by contributing to the bandits stories does Really work when after hunting his down five and still appears to be on the same side it becomes kind of a moot point. As well the other issue comes in when a bandit is only doing banditing for the sake of getting in the fight and continuously targeting the same people over and over again. And he complains about it being late at night for them and not having time for crp but that begs the question if he actually wanted a compelling bandit story would he only ever do it at a time when he has to quickly leave after. I am not sure if a full ban is warranted or will happen but even if Kardika has broke enough rules to warrant it. His behavior is certainly not that of someone who wishes to actually make bandit rp enjoyable for all parties and simply continues the same behavior ever single night making it impossible for many of the Empires guard to enjoy their time lotc as every evening their stuck holding a rally together waiting to deal with Kardika and he might want to PvP constantly but the guards of the empire are not solely on this server to wait for PvP they want to rp and have other development. So I firmly believe Kardika either needs to change this behavior and realize he can clicks on many servers better meant for frequent PvP or he can simply chill and not bother the imperial capital constantly while abusing the fact that the empire can’t rally to destroy them due to their anti infiltration fort combined with no warclaims.

Irish, as a fellow guard, I’d have to disagree. Having played both a bandit and a guard, I think Kardika’s biggest crime is using bandit tactics some people will either say it's smart or bitch made, depending on perspective. The real issue I’ve noticed isn’t with the bandits themselves, but with the guards not being properly prepared or taught how to handle them. Many guards don’t know how to do a proper halt emote, or fail to bring the right equipment when a raid happens. From what I’ve seen, the bandit RP has been solid. There’s been no murder hoboing, and victims are generally released once the RP is done. That’s usually the number one complaint people have about bandit RP, but it doesn’t seem to apply to this group. Honestly, the problem is that guards just aren’t used to this kind of Rp, and I actually think it helps break up the monotony of day to day guard duty. Without it, guard RP often boils down to dealing with nobles and frankly, I’d much rather interact with Kardika and Salvo, who are all pretty chill OOCly.

[Nectorist 12869]

bandit rp is obviously kind of slop, but it only gets hated on when compared to other forms of one-dimensional RP because it happens to be a bit obtrusive. I think these sorts of situations would be way smoother and lead to fewer reports if people realized that the worst-case scenario is losing 15 minutes of your time getting popped during pvp then getting your gear back. maybe you get captured because they want to bait a larger rally so they can have some cool pvp. just watch youtube while emoting your character screaming about getting his hand cut off, then get an easily-accessible animii limb later. the bandit cycle has literally not changed since the server's inception and it would just make it easier for all of us to understand that it can be quick and mostly-painless

[sapphic_spidy 1089]

38 minutes ago, Nectorist said:

maybe you get captured because they want to bait a larger rally so they can have some cool pvp.

as the one who was captured in the referenced section i just wanna really hammer home the capture and hostage rp was good and fun. i feel like if anyone were to be upset about the situation, it should be me, because i was the one who got the brunt of the rp. however, i'm not. because it was fun and they would've let me log if i wanted to go to bed or it got too intense.

[Frisket 4538]

16 hours ago, CasualNuker said:

This is an additional rule violation of a rule I could not find on forums, but have been quoted before, and that is fleeing a fight/raid he started.. He SS’ed away from a fight on 8-20-25 after the Imperial Guard called CRP on the fight (which occurred at the gate by the Imperial Bank in Grense), such was permitted for certain players who could not CRP; however, the entirety of his rally SS’e

as the person who took charge of this side. Casual you asked for CRP. They couldn’t do CRP and Including some of our people couldn’t of either. As such I offered them to leave, if they can’t do crp (which would’ve taken 5 hours with this energy) and I let the players leave and we voided that encounter.

 

they didn’t SS away and avoid rp. 

[_Sheylo_ 1177]

Nothing wrong with banditry, but I really wish they cracked down on some restrictions for it. Like cooldowns if you are banditing roads, limits to how much can be taken, quality length emotes, et cetera. And actually having proper rp reason that isn’t, “oh I don’t like <insert descendant humanoid race here>” to kill, like long standing growing tensions between different duchies. Things that aren’t, “haha we kidnap u for no reason giv Moneeey.” Greed for fake money and items will and probably always be the #1 reason that the rp is icky. If you’re gonna prolong someone’s night it should be like, A) Take a few items/cash and let them go. B) Take/get no items in exchange for being able to kill/maim. That way it isn’t always the most severe option… which is calling for people to d20 for pixels. It’s a delicate matter because it, for many, isn’t seen as fun if being subject to it, so there should be barriers to protect integrity and enjoyment for the server. And if you don’t agree then you are probably the problem 🤷
 

bandit rp is only bad as the people providing it, just so happens the vast majority happen to be bad with it 

 

please refurbish villainy/bandit rules so that it becomes intuitive and promotes rp.. 

 

thanks 🙏