Lvke 1000 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Why exactly was knockout removed? The question on most of our minds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praetor 1550 Share Posted August 8, 2013 I have to agree with Jistuma on pretty much everything he said except the last line really. Some people might have loved Aegis, but my funnest RP certainly wasn't there and I really didn't have that much RP at all there actually. Community-wise, I think it was better but this isn't about that, so I won't derail the topic. He also points out something which is quite true; The amount of people displeased with the knockout plugin was very small. And despite a lot of the people here simply saying "Knockout plugin, give it back." Some people have laid out very good points that no one has answered too. PS: To all those whining about people whining; Dissagreeing =/= QQ'ing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilikefooddude 430 Share Posted August 8, 2013 After all of this negativity, I think it really needs saying... Leaf drop plugin is AMAZING! Seriously, awesome job! I remember the first time I heard about it, and I expected a lot of it, and I can say, it delivered! Something usually as boring as waiting for a sapling to drop from a tree has been turned into something FUN! Apples, yum! You don't see them enough in minecraft, and it's great that they can be produced reliably now. Sticks, awesome! Honestly, if you are going to craft a stick for a weapon, you don't cut down a whole tree, process the logs into wood, then chop the wood up into sticks, you grab the biggest damn branch on that bloody tree and RIP IT OFF! The treasures you can get are a great input too, which add some spice and excitement for waiting for boring saplings to drop down from from the leaves of a tree. Gold nuggets! WOOOW! Though i'm sure at some point i'll boil over at some death due to lack of the knockout plugin, honestly, it won't make too much of a difference to my day. I'll just store my important things, and hope for the best really. Thanks coders! +1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neri 3590 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Alright... But in all, I have great trust in the Nexus changes, just don't know why the knockout plugin was removed already. We're coming out with a better plugin than Knockout. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
E__V__O 2000 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Question, I am first confused on what the lead decay plug-in does... although from what I have second handy heard it is something with some type of creature/animal. If that is so as what I have been told, how would this work on a druid if they have communism tier 2?-3+. I understand that the beasts need to be provoked which is why in some cases it might not matter if the druid has tier 2 or 3. although if one is tier 4-5 why would the beasts attack? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt011011 166 Share Posted August 8, 2013 No knockout!?!?!?!? HIDE YO PIXELS!!!!! JK. Great job tech. team! Can't wait to see what you do next! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heff 2460 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Cool can't wait to die now! xD No but I can't wait to try out lead drops, hopefully it doesn't drop angry squirrels yeah? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fengric 68 Share Posted August 8, 2013 What you wrote is incredibly offensive and I am going to request you get a warn. Look at my join date. Then look at your join date. Then look at my original forum account's join date. Then I laugh. This is the first step in restoring the atmosphere of Aegis. There isn't going to be an abnormal amount of pugsying. We had what... three remotely successful attempts in Asulon where we had no knockout plugin. Wah wah wah. Put up with it. Considering I carry no less then 4 or 5 valuable RP items, (most of them self-written books with no other copies) at any one time, I've probably got more to loose then you. Put up with it and refer to GIF in signature. EDIT: Also forgot to mention most of my RP takes place underground around a 60-deep chasm filled with lava. My chance of dying to non-RP accidents > yours Now, I will say with sincerity I am sorry. But it seems like the strangest thing in the world that you simply don't care, that people don't want to lose things important to them. Say it was real life, and someone had a higher chance of losing an important family heirloom? You wouldn't care? That sounds ridiculous to me. Regardless, I apologize, just don't come off as though nothing of what people have is important to them.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will (TauFirewarrior) 2466 Share Posted August 8, 2013 I'm glad I have my human shields to defend me. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivran 137 Share Posted August 8, 2013 For those of you who are annoyed with the fact that klomps/duels/etc. are now MUCH harder to do, Telanir already stated they'll be working on a dueling plugin, just wait. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Song Druid 1486 Share Posted August 8, 2013 What you wrote is incredibly offensive and I am going to request you get a warn. Look at my join date. Then look at your join date. Then look at my original forum account's join date. Then I laugh. This is the first step in restoring the atmosphere of Aegis. There isn't going to be an abnormal amount of pugsying. We had what... three remotely successful attempts in Asulon where we had no knockout plugin. Wah wah wah. Put up with it. Considering I carry no less then 4 or 5 valuable RP items, (most of them self-written books with no other copies) at any one time, I've probably got more to loose then you. Put up with it and refer to GIF in signature. EDIT: Also forgot to mention most of my RP takes place underground around a 60-deep chasm filled with lava. My chance of dying to non-RP accidents > yours No warn issued, he wasn't even being offensive. You're the one telling him you know better because you've been here longer. I really don't want to have to lock this thread, but it's looking like it's almost run its course. Let's keep our input constructive, or not put any input on this thread at all. If you disagree with someone's input, debate the points not argue with the person. If you do not get through, then stop trying! People are entitled to their own opinions. I don't believe anyone in this thread as actually wanted bad things for the server. So on that front we all want the same thing :) Use that as common ground. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek348 1962 Share Posted August 8, 2013 This addition is something that makes me want to actually log onto lord of the craft for once. I am pleased to see knockout removed as it is clearly paving the way for the glorious return of PVP and it will make people that bit more afraid when travelling and getting into fights. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Song Druid 1486 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Perhaps implement a plugin that knocks you out if you are hit by mobs or fist? That way you can't die from being punched to death. Also have it apply to wooden swords as well (for training and nobody is going to kill you with a wooden sword anyway). Weapon attacks do kill when pvp is initiated. Best of both worlds, and I can get into a brawl with a guard or an enemy without feeling like it has to end in death. Also, quoting this for great justice-I think it kindof gives people the best of both worlds!tm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Blackman 253 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Sooo... The knockout plugin being removed isn't bugging me, it's the fact that some people are happy to see others gain an ooc fear of them losing items. You can't force people into liking somehting they fear, they will eventually learn to hate their fear, and once they learn to hate something they will begin to bash on about it or just try to avoid it in general, and once they aovid what the hate, they will be escaping potential rp. It's sad really, it leads me to think that the majority of rpers on the server can't rp fear well and on top of that, a reason for PvP possibliy being made default is because of people "powergaming" in rp fights. soooowhyisLoTCthe#1serveragainiftheplayersherecan'tdotheeasiestofthings? But oh well, I'mma stay on topic here. Everybody who wants knockout back...carry no items, so when you die from another player's hand, you're farting in their face giving them nothing. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rig 17591 Share Posted August 26, 2013 There simply is no good reason to remove knockout. You have almost 6 pages full of people telling you to bring it back. There seems to be a serious disconnect between the Technicians and the players, and the staff at large. You are making decisions that are killing the server, and the evidence is the shrinking playerbase each week. Do you think things are going to get better during the school year? It is only going to get worse, maybe 50 people online during the evening on weekdays in the US. The Australia and GMT playerbase is probably just going to shrivel up and die. For once, we can say that the problem is not a community problem, caused by ooc drama, which there has been relatively little of since the mogmen left, but a staff one. I do not think Nexus us going to save the server, if anything, it is going to drive people away who don't want a skills plugin. This server, for what seems like forever ago, used to be a server where people could have fun and not worry about the staff stepping in an voiding rp and regulating everything. The server is dying, and it is our fault for trusting the staff to know what the server needs. This is somewhat true, though, there're a hundred and one peeps a day when I'm online. It's mostly the fact that the techies, while working hard, are actually told to code what they do as well as being told to do things by administrators. I think, knockback removed was terrible, but, every staff team makes mistakes, we'll have a 'knockout,' plugin soon I tell ya'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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