Finally, Pvp Is Default

[Ned Lud 1260]

Alchemists can request that they resort to a role-playing fight, but honestly, what sort of potions are you slurping down when there's a man with a sword at your throat?

 

As for children and animals, there's not much role-play to be had there. A killer would grab them by the scruff and put cold iron in their belly in a matter of seconds.

[ThatCanadian 203]

In cases like this, I'd expect you'd all have the decency to agree to roleplay fight in it. Most of you will, so, I don't think we need to worry about it.

Alright, thanks for answering that. Just wanted to get it cleared up.

[Shadeleaf 1021]

16. Should you wish to balance the power of your magic the MAT has settled upon the following: A mage who is T3 can be considered slightly more powerful with their magic than an armored and trained soldier. A mage who is T4 should be able to fight 2-3 of those soldiers, depending on how far they are through T4. A T5 mage should be able to fight 4-5 of those soldiers. Remember that it takes many months of magic to get to these stages, and most fellows with a MA are less than T3. Also remember that if your mage is closer than 10m it may be the case he/she will simply be stabbed before he may even create his/her spell.

I just remembered I get to code this stuff.... 

 

You're all dead one way or the other   

[CosmicWhaleShark 2488]

Allow me to try and revive my concerns a little, since they've been apparently passed over.

 

In case you failed to realise, the poll was entirely flawed due to the amount of accounts used to fake votes - hence, we don't even have an accurate account to base this on - exactly why we're trying it out.

I voted on Gaius' option, so I really don't care. However I thought it would in fact be helpful to show this. Just saying. You don't have an accurate count because one side in particular cheated on a grander scale.

 

 

Yup, you're attitude is quite frankly crap. Many of the people who wanted default-PVP are some of our best roleplayers and most experienced one. The fact you're generalising all the people who are "Pvp'ers" in such a way is ridiculous. Shut up, and see how it goes - like I've said, it goes bad? We'll sort it.

Hmm...
 

Also thank you RP default supporters for identifying yourselves, I will take even greater pleasure in clicking you to death!

Hmm...

 

 

Let it be clear that I will PvP or RP, I really have no preference. Hell, sometimes I even use /roll. However the demeanor of some of the more outspoken advocates of PvP+ is a bit worrying to me. You cannot place RP default as the scapegoat to all of the server's problems. A lot has happened since we were PvP default, a lot.

 

I'm just a little concerned, and yes, before we have a chance to try it out. Because at the first sign of 'victory' there are already snide comments and threats about *clicky clicky*

[~≈Panda≈~ 290]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

Well. It was nice coming back for a while, but Panda guesses LOTC is over. Pugsying will return with an all time high, creatures with claws will be useless, and those who fight with shovels will be dead panned. All is lost. All creativity in fighting is gone. No one will wish to roleplay any more.  * packs her bags and sets off. *

[the GOAT of the craft 606]

The over reaction in this thread is absolutely stupid. Stop behaving like children and grow up. Try it and prove that you, as a community, are mature enough to put up with something you don't like. Bitching in this thread will do nothing since you haven't even given PVP default a good chance.

 

I wonder how people on lotc will get on in real life. Sometimes you have to put up with things that you don't like for a while. Maybe you'll enjoy PVP default, and if not a detailed and thought out thread could be made by you in a few weeks time.

[Hanrahan 2983]

This is logic? Now that pvp is default a halfling can just throw on iron armor and just kill a group of trained soldiers. A HALFLING. 

Because we're better than you

[Danny 2232]

Allow me to try and revive my concerns a little, since they've been apparently passed over.

 

 

I voted on Gaius' option, so I really don't care. However I thought it would in fact be helpful to show this. Just saying. You don't have an accurate count because one side in particular cheated on a grander scale.

Hmm...

 

Hmm...

 

Let it be clear that I will PvP or RP, I really have no preference. Hell, sometimes I even use /roll. However the demeanor of some of the more outspoken advocates of PvP+ is a bit worrying to me. You cannot place RP default as the scapegoat to all of the server's problems. A lot has happened since we were PvP default, a lot.

 

I'm just a little concerned, and yes, before we have a chance to try it out. Because at the first sign of 'victory' there are already snide comments and threats about *clicky clicky*

 

In all honesty, I didn't actually realise Mau5 had made such a post, and I would have to doubt the accuracy of the results. How he worked that out I don't know, however, it is extremely unlikely that they're accurate simply due to the fact we can't truly see who actually voted for what. My guess is that he looked at accounts and IP matched them - but through that, we still aren't getting an accurate count anyway, down to proxying, etc.

 

Frankly, I wouldn't describe this as a 'victory' for each side of the debate - if it goes wrong, then it goes back to RP, if it works, then we can all be happy. What we honestly need people to do is just give things time and see if they do work out - but some people appear unwilling to do that, which is a real shame.

[SirSnowMan 318]

PVP AHHHHHHH YEEEEEEEEEEE

[Mingpow321 285]

Huzzah!

 

And to Danny:

[Dalek348 1962]

May I just say that the reactions and attitudes of your RP default supporters is what is driving LOTC into the ground. All I can do is just laugh at the 'LOTC is over!' and 'I will never fight again!' comments at how badly informed you are. Open your eyes, man up, and maybe you'll have a bit of fun for once instead of making LOTC 'real-life simulator 2k13'.

[Samoblivion 532]

So, yep - PVP-default unless against magic users. If you remain against the idea of PVP-default then, please, allow us to give it a chance before trying to behead us for such an 'atrocious decision'. If combat goes into the dumps because of it, we'll change it back -- otherwise, and I'm sure we have, we'll have made the right decision.

 

And remember, don't 'QQ' until we see how it goes.

 

A thousand times this. I'm on the fence with the whole issue, but the main problem I've had with those vehemently against PvP default is some of them acting like this will be an irreversible change.

 

Bull.

 

As Danny has clearly said here, this is NOT irreversible. Things go to ****? We change back to RP default. Simple as that.

 

The old adage 'don't knock it till you try it' applies doubly so here. I'm willing to give it a try.

[Luchian 214]

finally, this is a step in the betterment of the server. Finally, I support this decision.

[THUNDER37 162]

Dalek, now you understand how we saw the world when PVP supporters were saying combat RolePlay was driving LoTC into the ground.

[Zeedus 102]

Lets just back up and pause for a minute before this explodes. 

 

So you're not happy about PVP default. Okay, a lot of people aren't but at least give it a chance. RP is still needed BEFORE pvp, with no exceptions. We are an RP server and any pvp attack that has no rp beforehand will be dealt with seriously. If it goes wrong, we will work on it but let this be a learning curve. 

 

You can't say you hate eggs without trying them. If you don't try, you'll never know. 

I hope you keep this promise.