Draeris

Sipping his tequila, now with a mustache & Rocheban sunglasses, the man that goes by [REDACTED] reads the missive behind a fake newspaper. "Ohh my GOD." the incognito ex-Pontiff would gasp, a tear rolling over his cheek "These cretins caused absolute destruction, and at what cost?"

Owyn III before his disappearance

THE ALBAROSE WITHERS

GOD BETRAYED

 

 

 

Laurence August Pruvia-Albarosa had faced many trials. Ever since joining the fray of Richard Victor Helvets, he could never run out of enemies to oppose him. From the O’Rourkes over a tavern, Ostromir over land, the Wicks over his Premiership and the Dubois’ over his arrogance: fighting for the system of Kaedrin, and his people, the Crown above him ended his most ancient vassal: killing a nation, but not the fights that it was plagued by. 

 

Parallel to his Premiership, Laurence rose through the ranks of the Church. For every controversy, he had diligence. For every coalition to oust him, he had a lobby to back him. The determination of his foes to make Laurence’s ambitions untenable was made of iron: no reconciliation, no concession & no plea could make it stop. On the run from the crowd that sought to architect his end: he ran upwards, hoping that new ranks could shield him from the stones thrown beneath. 

 

Then on that fateful night, when James II had passed, five Cardinals convened to bestow Laurence his greatest responsibility yet: the High Pontificate. They understood as much as Laurence that his problematic reputation would face a challenge, but history proved that his diligence could compensate for it. Surely, they assumed, the normal conventions of diplomacy & honorability would apply for the High Pontiff: if not for him, then for who? 

 

They misjudged gravely. Spectres of his past became stronger and louder, betrayals became more prominent. As people fatigued in their relentless defense of this legitimate Pontiff, so weakened their will to serve. They weren’t politicians, and they cared too much for the approval of their friends. Even titans of the faith such as Cardinal Benedict could no longer face the Haeseni: the choice between brethren and faith becoming overbearing. 

 

Diplomacy faltered, concessions ignored over public sentiment. Canonist princes ignoring ecclesiastical law, usurping the Cardinals in deposing Owyn III. None of the crimes had happened: but that did not matter, for he was too disliked for justice. And when he heard that his cardinals, bishops & priests were mercilessly butchered by Haeseni & Orenian troops. He couldn’t justify his existence any longer.

 

Sending out a letter to all nation leaders and surviving Cardinals, he hid into a cargo carriage and drove off to an undisclosed location. The letter simply read: 

 

 

THE HIGH PONTIFICATE OF OWYN III

 

His Holiness the High Pontiff Owyn III has passed away and has been cremated in accordance to his wishes. The College of Cardinals is instructed, by whomever remaining that is capable of exercising this authority, to hold a new election.

 

I loved Humanity.

 

TE DEUM.

 

PONTIFEX MAXIMUS 
OWYN III
 

 

[!] A seal displaying Ex. Owyn & Ex. Sigismund 

seals this letter.

ugh

"خلص! Mashallah will these heretics taste the blood of my Scimitar" said Owyn III, riding in a Lawrence-of-Arabia fashion towards Osanora.

"I look forward to seeing what the Bishops of Providentia & Albarosa will come to in preparation for the Diet." he turns to Patriarch @repl1caflanking him "When will those of Jorenus convene?"

 

 

PAPAL MISSIVE TO KOENAS ISABEL, 358 ES

By Sanctitas Pontifex Maximus Owyn III

 

 

To the Koenas Isabel of Hanseti-Ruska;

The esteemed House of Barbanov;

& the people of Hanseti-Ruska,

 

It is with great sorrow that the High Pontificate of Owyn III has received word of Koeng Josef's heart attack and current medical state. Our prayers go to his swift recovery, the doctors treating him & his nation now engulfed by worry and sorrow. Deepest sympathy is given to Koenas Isabel and her offspring, and the entire clergy of Jorenus is henceforth instructed to provide aid and consolation wherever possible.

 

The High Pontificate of Owyn III shall fully cooperate with Grand Prince Henrik & the government of Hanseti-Ruska during these troubling moments, and shall suspend all planned festivities & celebrations until further notice.

 

GOD be with you, people of Haense.

 

Te Deum.

 

AB IMO PECTORE

 

PONTIFEX MAXIMUS

OWYN III

 

 

TERTIUS BULLA AUREA ALBAROSA
The Third Golden Bull of Albarosa
 

OWYN III, pontifex maximus, servus servorum Dei, episcopus Sancta Sedes,
 
Sends his greetings to all the faithful of the realm. Since a thing just and honorable is asked of us by GOD: to promulgate His Word, protect His Faith & defend the Sanctity of His Flock, GOD demands that these missions are led to its proper conclusion through the care of our office, and the piety of our faithful.

 

The First Ecumenical Council of Albarosa has been concluded with record participation unseen for decades within our Holy Mother Church: an electoral triumph for our most divine institution. The High Pontificate of Owyn III thanks all participants, and promises to use the mandates given in a careful and considerate fashion: which shall become evident in this TERTIUS BULLA AUREA ALBAROSA.

 

Beyond the passed proposals of the council, the High Pontificate of Owyn III is pleased with the progress made in its long overdue reforms regarding the Ruskan Rite, internal organization & the Curia. Although this Bulla Aurea is not the final decree pertaining to these reforms, it is by all means an important milestone which shall permanently chart the course for our faith. Clergy -- rejoice!
 

 
Te deum.
 

That’s it. Owyn III has gone jokermode.

 

TABLE OF CONTENTS
I). The permanent Dioceses of the Faith
II).  Diocesan naming
III). The Office of Cardinalis
IV). Archiepiscopis & Episcopis
V).  Diet of Bishops
VI). Ecclesiastical prosecution
VII).  Canonizations, beatifications & venerations
 

SECTION I.
PERMANENT DIOCESES OF THE FAITH

 

The Clergy has granted an overwhelming majority for the proposed enshrinement of Jorenus, Providentia & Albarosa in Canon Law: rendering them as permanent in the Holy Mother Church. The High Pontificate of Owyn III shall therefore see to its responsible implementation.

 

Understanding however that nations and borders change, and that the cultural value of names or ecclesiastical size vary by decade: rendering the permanence of these dioceses absolute would be irresponsible. 

 

The following stipulations shall be decreed by this TERTIUS BULLA AUREA ALBAROSA, and later implemented in the Codex of Canon Law.

 

I). He who as a subordinate to the Pontifex Maximus is assigned to shepherd over the seat of the Fidei Defensor, and therefore the Holy See, shall have its Archdiocese styled as ‘Metropolitanate’, and himself as ‘the Metropolitan’ or ‘Metropolitanus’.

 

II). He who as a subordinate to the Pontifex Maximus is assigned to shepherd over the Highlander nations, shall have its Archdiocese styled as ‘Patriarchate’ or ‘Patriarchalis’, and himself as ‘the Patriarch’ or ‘Patriarcha’. This is to be different from Book II, Title III, Chapters III & IV, which describes a Patriarch as an Archbishop presiding over non-human provinces. These names shall bear similarities despite being different entities, until such is corrected in the next Ecumenical council.

 

III). He who as a subordinate to the Pontifex Maximus is assigned to shepherd over the Kaedreni and other minorities of the Holy Orenian Empire, shall have its Archdiocese styled as the ‘Prince-Archbishopric’ or ‘Princeps-Archiepiscopatum’, and himself as ‘the Prince-Archbishop’ or ‘Princeps-Archiepiscopus’.

 

IV). That the Metropolitanus, Partriarcha & Princeps-Archiepiscopus are deemed superior to the conventional status of ‘Archdiocese’, and may therefore host Archdioceses as subordinate ministries if the Pontifex Maximus ordains so.

 

V). That the Pontifex Maximus may still establish, dissolve, restore or rename subordinate (arch)dioceses beneath the aforementioned. 

 

VI). That if one or more of the aforementioned dioceses suffer from, or are subject to: 

• A). A loss of statehood or legal status beneath a state.
• B). Participation in, sympathy to or facilitation of schisms, rejection of Pontifical authority or Canonist dogma. 
• C). A relatively small population of clergymen or ecclesiastically-related individuals within these Archdioceses
• D). Severe neglect of ecclesiastical duties or the preservation of unity within the Holy Mother Church.

They lose the protections granted by this TERTIUS BULLA AUREA ALBAROSA, and return wholly as subject to the prerogative of the Pontifex Maximus.

To name these Archdioceses with special status collectively, without convoluting documents by specifying all three repeatedly, they shall carry the name of ‘Triumvirate’.
 

 

SECTION II.
DIOCESAN NAMING

 

Traditionally the naming of Dioceses has been the exclusive prerogative of the Pontifex Maximus, who to varying degrees considered the local cultures beneath the dioceses. To ensure that the historic, cultural or political histories of diocesan names remain respected: the Clergy had granted His Holiness an overwhelming majority to consolidate certain diocesan names, and to add further stipulations pertaining to the naming process.

 

The following stipulations shall be decreed by this TERTIUS BULLA AUREA ALBAROSA, and later implemented in the new Canon Law document.

 

I). That the Metropolitanate shall carry the name of ‘Metropolitanate of Providentia’ and its shepherd ‘Metropolitanus of Providentia’.

 

II). That the Patriarchalis shall carry the name of ‘Patriarchalis of Jorenus’ and its shepherd ‘Patriarcha of Jorenus’.

 

III). That the Princeps-Archiepiscopatum shall carry the name of ‘Princeps-Archiepiscopatum of Albarosa' and its shepherd ‘Princeps-Archiepiscopus of Albarosa’.

 

IV). That the names of Providentia, Jorenus & Albarosa cannot be changed by Pontifical or Archdiocesan decree if it is not: approved by the Pontifex Maximus, the shepherd of either of these Archdioceses and a majority of subordinate diocesan shepherds simultaneously. 

 

V). That the dioceses who represent a singular, or multiple, cultural minorities within an Archdiocese, shall carry a name that aligns with said culture in terms of their native tongue, or if in a foreign language, that the name carries cultural relevance to said culture it shepherds over.  
 

SECTION III.
THE OFFICE OF CARDINALIS

 

The College of Cardinals has historically served as a sleeping electorate that, upon the death of the Pontifex Maximus, elects a new one. Most of their authority, prestige & tasks that they fulfill within the Holy Mother Church comes from informal structures that differ per Cardinal and Pontifex Maximus. 

 

The High Pontificate of Owyn III finds it organizationally irresponsible to place the diligence and relevancy of its cardinals at the mercy of their popularity, seniority or their only superior. For they should, regardless of these factors, play an important role in charting the course that the Holy Mother Church takes and the internal culture it harbours for its clergymen.

 

The Cardinals shall therefore be given: 

 

I). The authority to nominate and therefore propose alongside the (Arch)bishops, or veto, nominees to the roles of Vicar & Diocesan legate for the High Pontiff to confirm at his own discretion.

 

II). The responsibility to extensively report on and represent the subordinate (Arch)bishops in the College of Cardinals or while voting on canonizations, beatifications or venerations in ecumenical councils. 

 

III). The responsibility to ensure the active participation of the local clergy in wider ecclesiastical affairs, functions & festivities of the Holy Mother Church.

 

IV).  To safeguard the harmony between Canonist dogma & local rites.

 

V). To safeguard the harmony between Pontifex Maximus & the local clergy.
 

 

SECTION IV.
ARCHIEPISCOPIS & EPISCOPIS 

 

The (Arch)bishop remains the most crucial element of the Canonist ministry, being the closest to the congregation while still wielding sufficient authority to represent them higher up the ecclesiastical hierarchy. Understanding this, our Holy Pontificate marches onwards with further strengthening their necessary societal role. 

 

Each (Arch)bishop may henceforth publish (Arch)diocesan decrees, which shall immediately be legitimized within the next Golden Bull by the Pontifex Maximus, whenever it is published. 

 

For an (Arch)diocesan decree to be integrated in a Golden Bull, it must be passed in the Diet of Bishops. 

 

I). Majority support in the Diet of Bishops.

II). An absence of a veto from his superior Cardinal, which shall be the Cardinal(s) from the nation the (Arch)diocese is located in.

III). An absence of a veto from the Pontifex Maximus. 

IV). Approval from the Auditor of the Tribunal, who shall only review and judge it on the basis of its correct usage of ecclesiastical law & Golden Bulls it may reference.

 

Once it meets all the criteria above, it must be implemented in the next Golden Bull under the section ‘Archdiocesan Decrees’.
 

 

SECTION V.
DIET OF BISHOPS 

 

The Diet of Bishops, although established in a prior Golden Bull, has yet to find its appropriate form within the Holy Mother Church. In this TERTIUS BULLA AUREA ALBAROSA, the High Pontificate of Owyn III hopes to provide it. 

 

The Diet of Bishops is the meeting of all Bishop of the Church where they primarily provide or withdraw assent from diocesan decrees, lobby the College of Cardinals and the Pontifex Maximus by supporting or opposing certain ideas through non-binding votes, which shall serve as an indicator of popular support and prepare proposals for ecumenical councils, Golden Bulls or other decision making.

 

A Diet of Bishops can be petitioned by any Bishop. Said petition is approved by the Pontifex Maximus, from which a Diet of Bishops is then called: presided over by the petitioner. A Diet of Bishops can be attended by all Bishops.

 

The Council of Bishops is the meeting between all Dioceses beneath an Archdiocese of the faith like Providentia, Albarosa or Jorenus: where the local Bishops may discuss, propose and vote on decisions between themselves, should they wish to organize themselves prior to a Diet of Bishops or an Ecumenical Council. 

 

A Council of Bishops may be called by any Bishop. Unlike the Diet of Bishops, the petitioner for a Council of Bishops may determine who is and isn’t allowed to attend on his own accord. All votes and decisions that are made in a Council of Bishops are by definition informal and non-binding to the Holy Mother Church, as they solely serve as internal preparation for participation in the Diet of Bishops & Ecumenical Councils.

 

This establishes the following structure within the Holy Mother Church: 

 

I). The College of Cardinals
Forever in session, exclusive to Cardinals.

 

II). The Diet of Bishops
Sessions are called by petitioners upon approval from the Pontifex Maximus, exclusive to all Bishops.

     II.I). Council of Bishops 

     Sessions are called by any Bishop, which are exclusive to all Bishops from either the Metropolitanate, Patriarchis or Princeps-Archiepiscopatum. These local councils cannot make binding decisions, and are solely meant

     to internally prepare for their participation in the Diet of Bishops or Ecumenical councils. 

 

 

SECTION VI.
ECCLESIASTICAL PROSECUTION

 

The High Pontificate of Owyn III has faltered in its initial attempts to establish a counter-cultural movement against the modernist ‘Legalism’ within Humanity, and other human groups such as the Hyspians who abandoned the faith with no consequence. 

 

Although it is not the inherent task nor the wish of the High Pontificate of Owyn III to actively meddle in the lives and self-determination of humans: it consistently finds a great malaise experienced amongst their congregations, who feel alienated by a society that puts the faith second to temporal power.

 

In an attempt to further harmonize ecclesiastical law with secular authorities a grand strategy shall be adopted that will stretch over multiple decades, councils and potentially Pontificates. In this TERTIUS BULLA AUREA ALBAROSA, the first steps will be taken.

 

The Apostle-General is instructed together with his Equestor-Imperators to educate other members of the Supreme Order of Exalted Owyn on the legal systems of Hanseti-Ruska & Oren. They will furthermore be trained to utilize basic prosecutorial privileges in tandem with the Auditor of the Tribunal, so that a greater legal effort can be made against apostates & heretics within the greater sphere of humanity.

 

The Pontifical Legate is instructed to lobby their respective Governments to establish legislation that counters secularism & tolerance of heretics within their respective nations.
 

 

SECTION VII.
CANONIZATIONS, BEATIFICATIONS & VENERATIONS 

 

The High Pontificate of Owyn III has, in accordance with the results from the First Ecumenical Council of Albarosa, and without further intervention from His Holiness, decided to canonize, beatificate or venerate the following Canonists:

 

I). CANONIZATIONS 

 

Andrik Vydra
Patron Saint of Victory, Military Excellence & the Schism war

The victor of the Schism war, and a noble statesman that led Oren to unparalleled progress, only to be martyred by Elven degenerates: Andrik Vydra is a severely revered statesman and inspiration for the faithful in both High- & Heartlander nations. He is seen as the father of what would become a united Humanity.

 

After the war, friend and foe alike joined under Vydra’s banner: restoring a balance in the human realm, and finishing the greatest conflict known to man.

 

1st Miracle - Despite overwhelming odds, facing all races and the near half of the entire human race from Aesterwald, and the Undead Forces of Iblees himself. Andrik Vydra’s Canonist League would achieve a crucial victory at Milvian Bridge, turning the tide of the war deemed unwinnable. Andrik remained entirely unharmed, despite fighting many foes by himself.

 

2nd Miracle - Standing as an Akovian peasant in the Cloud Temple, the near entirety of Humanity bend their knee to him, seeing his Holy Mandate to unite the race. Within mere hours, all temporal leaders declared Andrik Vydra King, thus making him the King of Oren.

 

High Pontiff Everard II ‘the Wise’

Patron Saint of Forethought, Divine Retribution & Pontifical Statehood
The progenitor of the Everardine era, universally seen as a golden age for the Holy Mother Church, His Holiness Everard II would see to the foundation of the first independent Pontifical State after the Tarchar Crusades in 1523 & the establishment of the Office of Auditor of the Tribunal. 

 

He was tutored by Sixtus III, the son of St. Emma of Woldzmir & served as Vice-Chancellor under the blessed High Pontiff Daniel II. He was known as ‘the Watcher’ due to his refusal to participate in the Duke’s war, and ‘the Wise’ for his role as architect of the longest golden age of the Holy Mother Church.

 

He was a key figure in the restoration of the Horen Dynasty, which saw John I to be crowned as Holy Orenian Empire. He founded numerous missions to the Elven territories and Uruguan, bringing future Saints such as St. Michael of Cordobe into the fray. He was the first High Pontiff that started codifying Canon Law. 

 

His policies of expansionism & pontifical restoration did not sit well with John Turnbull, who out of his childish hissyfits had started a movement to dethrone Everard II. Emperor John I intervened by calling a diet and arresting all these schismatic clergymen, ending that schism. After the Turnbull affair, certain remnant elements of this schism martyred Everard II: ending his eventful reign abruptly. 

 

1st Miracle - During the Redmark massacre, where the de Sola’s slaughtered the entire Adrian retinue during a trial, Everard II jumped off the highest point of the castle and landed safely, fleeing the massacre and reporting it to proper authorities. 

 

2nd Miracle - Archaengul Michael & Gabriel came down to Everard II personally in Luciensport, to request aid in their fight against Iblees. It is said that for an entire week after, the High Pontiff was illuminated by a golden light.

 

3rd Miracle - During the sacking of Alsace, Everard II would personally stand between John of Carnatia and his troops, and Augustus Valkenwrath, the mayor of Alsace: Everard II’s voice alone would freeze John’s retinue, delaying the sacking until Augustus and other civilians managed to flee or hide in the crypts.

 

II). VENERATIONS

 

High Pontiff Pontian III
A martyr to radical secular elements within the Holy Orenian Empire of yore, His Holiness Pontian III is remembered for undergoing the ultimate sacrifice in his pursuit for greater ecclesiastical relevancy in human culture and Pontifical authority in general society.

 

Father Pius of Sutica
A titan of the quill who in his lifetime authored many great works, and sought to the completion of the James II archive & many other theological works used by current clergymen. His diligence and theological knowledge is worth veneration, so that it may serve as inspiration to all the scholarly among us. 

 

 
 
THE HOLY MOTHER CHURCH OF THE CANON 
Under GOD, maintained by His Holiness Owyn III

 
THE COLLEGE OF CARDINALS 
THE PENTARCHY OF OWYN III

 
@argonian
AILRED CARDINALIS REINMAR 
From the Episcopatum Reinmar
Patriarchalis Jorenus
Kingdom of Hanseti-Ruska
 
@Caranthir_
AMADEUS CARDINALIS ROCHEFORT
From the Episcopatum Rochefort
Princeps-Archiepiscopus Albarosa
Holy Orenian Empire
 
@Piov
BENEDICT CARDINALIS JORENUS
From the Patriarchalis Jorenus
Kingdom of Hanseti-Ruska

 

 @GoldWolfGaming
MANFRIED CARDINALIS PROVIDENTIA
From the Metropolitanate of Providentia
Holy Orenian Empire
 
@Julio ツ
PELAGIUS CARDINALIS ALBAROSA
From the Episcopatum Cordoba
Princeps-Archiepiscopus Albarosa
Holy Orenian Empire
 
THE CURIA
 
THE VICE-CHANCELLOR
Manfried Cardinalis Providentia @GoldWolfGaming
 
THE PONTIFICAL AUDITOR
Vicary Archiepiscopus Nescia @frill
 
THE PONTIFICAL SECRETARY
Equestor-Imperator Nicolas @Burnsider

 

THE PRELATE OF THE CLERGY
Alfred Patriarcha Jorenus @repl1ca
 
THE PRELATE OF THE SISTERHOOD
Mother Roxalana @Axelu
 
THE PONTIFICAL CHAMBERLAIN
Carlos Clericus Cordoba @Proddy
 
THE APOSTLE-GENERAL
Armand-Philippe Episcopus Tituli Metz  @LithiumSedai
 
THE PONTIFICAL LEGATE
Theophilos Komnenos-Akritias @dmitris

 

MONSIGNORS
Msgr. Ed Myre of Oren @Old Man Boiendl
Msgr. Adelric Barclay of Reinmar @MadOne
Msgr. Robert de Bourdon of Kaedrin @Tiresiam
Msgr. Antonius Mihailo Visconti @Zoprak_Visconti
Msgr. Fiske Vanir of Haense @Sander

 
CANONIST DIOCESES 

 

 

METROPOLITANATE OF PROVIDENTIA, THE HOLY SEE 
Encompassing the seat of the Fidei Defensor and the Holy See, shepherded by Manfried Cardinalis Providentia @GoldWolfGaming. The primary Diocese of the Faith.

 

PATRIARCHATE OF JORENUS
Encompassing the entirety of the Kingdom of Hanseti-Ruska & the Kingdom of Norland, shepherded by Alfred Patriarcha Jorenus @repl1ca.

 

 

ARCHDIOCESE OF HENRIKEV, encompassing the entirety of the Capital City of Karosgrad, shepherded by Karl Otto Archiepiscopus Henrikev @Drew2_dude.

 

 

DIOCESE OF VALWYCK, encompassing the lands to the north, west and east of the Capital City of Karosgrad, shepherded by Otho Episcopus Valwyck @Drumoldth.

 

 

 

DIOCESE OF REINMAR, encompassing the land to direct south of the Capital City of Karosgrad, shepherded by Adelric Episcopus Reinmar @MadOne.

 

 

 

PRINCELY-ARCHDIOCESE  OF ALBAROSA, encompassing everything beyond the Capital City of Providence, that is within the Holy Orenian Empire, the Free Trade Nation of Sutica & Elven territories, shepherded by Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa @Julio ツ.

 

 

ARCHDIOCESE OF NESCIA, encompassing the Free Trade Nation of Sutica & Elven Territories, shepherded by Vicary Archiepiscopus Nescia @frill.

 

DIOCESE OF CORDOBA, encompassing the Osanora region & other Hyspian settlements, shepherded by Francisco Episcopus Cordoba @Timer5011

 

DIOCESE OF GOTTSGRENZE, encompassing the Municipality of Esbec, shepherded by Guy Episcopus Gottsgrenze @Balthasar.

 

 

DIOCESE OF ROCHEFORT, encompassing the Municipality of Redenford, to be shepherded by Amadeus Episcopus Rochefort @Caranthir_.

 

TITULAR DIOCESE OF METZ, granted to the First Apostle-General of the Supreme Order of Exalted Owyn, Armande-Philippe Episcopus Tituli Metz @LithiumSedai.

 

 

 

“Though the Spring flower withers and the fruit of the tree falls to the ground, My Word lasts onto the eve of the world, and the fruit of virtue cannot rot.”
- Scroll of Virtue, 4:2.

 

 
 
GODANI JEST WIELKI
 
Sanctitas Pontifex Maximus
OWYN III
 
 

 

[!] A seal displaying Ex. Owyn & Ex. Sigismund 

seals this Golden Bull.

Owyn III presents the final tally, closing the council.

 

I). To receive a mandate to completely overhaul the structuring & typography of the current Canon Law. REJECTED BY COUNCIL - NO 3/4 MAJORITY

AYE:

Abbot Antonius Mihailo Visconti

Sanctitas Pontifex Maximus Owyn III

Monsignor Robert de Bourdon

Father Lajos Sandor Károly

Jan Istvan Tibor

Javier Franscisco Altamarino

NAY:

Otho Episcopus Valwyck

Francisco Episcopus Hyspia

Alfred Episcopus Henrikev

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

Vicary Episcopus Rochefort

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Father Karl Kortrevich

ABSTAIN:

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Adelric Episcopus Esbec

Father Dima Carrion-Tyuvic

Father Cyril Halcourt

Father Carlos of Hyspia

 

II). To add a stipulation to Canon Law that makes the (Princely) Archdioceses of Providentia, Jorenus & Albarosa permanent within the Holy Mother Church, in name and in scope. PASSED BY COUNCIL. 3/4 MAJORITY ACHIEVED.

AYE:

Otho Episcopus Valwyck

Francisco Episcopus Hyspia

Alfred Episcopus Henrikev

Abbot Antonius Mihailo Visconti

Sanctitas Pontifex Maximus Owyn III

Monsignor Robert de Bourdon

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Father Lajos Sandor Károly

Father Karl Kortrevich

Father Cyril Halcourt

Father Carlos of Hyspia

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Jan Istvan Tibor

Javier Franscisco Altamarino

NAY:

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

Vicary Episcopus Rochefort

Adelric Episcopus Esbec

Father Dima Carrion-Tyuvic

 

III). To update the definitions in Book II, Title II. Chapter III., expanding the Curia roles currently present & outlining their tasks more concretely. This involves the addition of the new roles already granted, and to add onto the existing descriptions the de facto tasks of each curia role as well.  REJECTED BY COUNCIL - NO 3/4 MAJORITY

AYE:

Otho Episcopus Valwyck

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

Abbot Antonius Mihailo Visconti

Sanctitas Pontifex Maximus Owyn III

Monsignor Robert de Bourdon

Father Lajos Sandor Károly

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Adelric Episcopus Esbec

Father Carlos of Hyspia

Jan Istvan Tibor

Javier Franscisco Altamarino

NAY:

Francisco Episcopus Hyspia

Vicary Episcopus Rochefort

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Father Dima Carrion-Tyuvic

Father Karl Kortrevich

Father Cyril Halcourt

Alfred Episcopus Henrikev

 

IV). To change in Book IV, Title IV, Chapter III., that only one attributable miracle is necessary for sainthood: as not all current saints have two.  REJECTED BY COUNCIL - NO 3/4 MAJORITY

AYE:

Abbot Antonius Mihailo Visconti

Sanctitas Pontifex Maximus Owyn III

Father Lajos Sandor Károly

Father Carlos of Hyspia

Jan Istvan Tibor

Javier Franscisco Altamarino

NAY:

Otho Episcopus Valwyck

Francisco Episcopus Hyspia

Alfred Episcopus Henrikev

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

Vicary Episcopus Rochefort

Monsignor Robert de Bourdon

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Adelric Episcopus Esbec

Father Karl Kortrevich

Father Dima Carrion-Tyuvic

Father Cyril Halcourt

 

V). To add in Book V, Title II, Chapter I that inciting sedition against, questioning the legitimacy of or conspiring to harm the High Pontiff commits a crime and excommunicates himself automatically. This would involve a law stipulation that specifies what circumstances would justify such: such as disputing a legitimate election, or inciting violence against the High Pontiff as a person.   REJECTED BY COUNCIL - NO 3/4 MAJORITY

AYE:

Otho Episcopus Valwyck

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

Abbot Antonius Mihailo Visconti

Sanctitas Pontifex Maximus Owyn III

Monsignor Robert de Bourdon

Father Lajos Sandor Károly

Father Carlos of Hyspia

Jan Istvan Tibor

Javier Franscisco Altamarino

NAY:

Francisco Episcopus Hyspia

Alfred Episcopus Henrikev

Vicary Episcopus Rochefort

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Adelric Episcopus Esbec

Father Karl Kortrevich

Father Dima Carrion-Tyuvic

Father Cyril Halcourt

 

VI). To add in Book V, Title II a chapter that describes Papal Briefs. PASSED BY COUNCIL. 3/4 MAJORITY ACHIEVED.

AYE:

Alfred Episcopus Henrikev

Francisco Episcopus Hyspia

Otho Episcopus Valwyck

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

Abbot Antonius Mihailo Visconti

Sanctitas Pontifex Maximus Owyn III

Monsignor Robert de Bourdon

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Father Lajos Sandor Károly

Father Karl Kortrevich

Father Cyril Halcourt

Father Carlos of Hyspia

Jan Istvan Tibor

Javier Franscisco Altamarino

NAY:

Vicary Episcopus Rochefort

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Adelric Episcopus Esbec

Father Dima Carrion-Tyuvic

 

VII). To overhaul Book VI, Title II. Chapter III., rendering Minor Bulls ‘Archdiocesan Decrees’ and further streamlining them with the Golden Bulls of His Holiness. PASSED BY COUNCIL. 3/4 MAJORITY ACHIEVED.

AYE:

Alfred Episcopus Henrikev

Francisco Episcopus Hyspia

Otho Episcopus Valwyck

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

Abbot Antonius Mihailo Visconti

Sanctitas Pontifex Maximus Owyn III

Monsignor Robert de Bourdon

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Father Lajos Sandor Károly

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Adelric Episcopus Esbec

Father Carlos of Hyspia

Jan Istvan Tibor

Javier Franscisco Altamarino

NAY:

Vicary Episcopus Rochefort

Father Karl Kortrevich

Father Dima Carrion-Tyuvic

Father Cyril Halcourt

 

VIII). [REMOVED]

 

IX). To add in BOOK VII, Title I, that the High Pontiff may, on his own accord, assume the role of judge within a trial, and overturn the ruling of a lesser judge with a majority of the cardinals backing such. This would require prior approval from the College of Cardinals and should principally be only used in severely important procedures. REJECTED BY COUNCIL - NO 3/4 MAJORITY

AYE:

Alfred Episcopus Henrikev

Francisco Episcopus Hyspia

Otho Episcopus Valwyck

Abbot Antonius Mihailo Visconti

Sanctitas Pontifex Maximus Owyn III

Monsignor Robert de Bourdon

Father Lajos Sandor Károly

Jan Istvan Tibor

Javier Franscisco Altamarino

NAY:

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

Vicary Episcopus Rochefort

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Adelric Episcopus Esbec

Father Karl Kortrevich

Father Dima Carrion-Tyuvic

Father Cyril Halcourt

Father Carlos of Hyspia

 

XIV). Basil's proposal to remove interdiction REJECTED BY COUNCIL - NO 3/4 MAJORITY

AYE:

Adelric Episcopus Esbec

Father Karl Kortrevich

Father Dima Carrion-Tyuvic

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Father Cyril Halcourt

Javier Franscisco Altamarino

NAY:

Sanctitas Pontifex Maximus Owyn III

Father Lajos Sandor Károly

Francisco Episcopus Hyspia

Father Carlos of Hyspia

Jan Istvan Tibor

 

XV). Basil's proposal for tithes REJECTED BY COUNCIL - NO 3/4 MAJORITY

AYE:

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Adelric Episcopus Esbec

Father Karl Kortrevich

Father Dima Carrion-Tyuvic

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Father Cyril Halcourt

Javier Franscisco Altamarino

NAY:

Sanctitas Pontifex Maximus Owyn III

Father Lajos Sandor Károly

Alfred Episcopus Henrikev

Francisco Episcopus Hyspia

Father Carlos of Hyspia

Jan Istvan Tibor

 

XVI). Basil's proposal for new laws pertaining to the rebuking of the High Pontiff. REJECTED BY COUNCIL - NO 3/4 MAJORITY

AYE:

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Father Cyril Halcourt

Javier Franscisco Altamarino

NAY:

Sanctitas Pontifex Maximus Owyn III

Father Lajos Sandor Károly

Alfred Episcopus Henrikev

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Francisco Episcopus Hyspia

Adelric Episcopus Esbec

Jan Istvan Tibor

ABSTAIN:

Father Karl Kortrevich

Father Dima Carrion-Tyuvic

Father Carlos of Hyspia

Jan Istvan Tibor

 

XVII). Basil's proposal pertaining to indulgences. REJECTED BY COUNCIL - NO 3/4 MAJORITY

AYE:

Father Dima Carrion-Tyuvic

Javier Franscisco Altamarino

NAY:

Sanctitas Pontifex Maximus Owyn III

Father Lajos Sandor Károly

Alfred Episcopus Henrikev

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Francisco Episcopus Hyspia

Adelric Episcopus Esbec

Father Karl Kortrevich

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Father Cyril Halcourt

Father Carlos of Hyspia

Jan Istvan Tibor

 

----CARDINALS ONLY VOTE----

X). Although it is within the High Pontiff’s authority to venerate any Canonist at will, His Holiness seeks to gain popular approval for his nominees regardless: 

X.I).Empress Anne the August of Novellen REJECTED BY POPULAR VOTE, DECISION FOR PONTIFF

AYE:

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

NAY:

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

ABSTAIN: 

Amadeus Cardinalis Nescia

X.II). His Holiness the High Pontiff James II PASSED BY POPULAR VOTE, DECISION FOR PONTIFF

AYE:

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

NAY:

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

ABSTAIN: 

Amadeus Cardinalis Nescia

X.III). His Holiness the High Pontiff Pontian III PASSED BY POPULAR VOTE, DECISION FOR PONTIFF

AYE:

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

NAY:

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

ABSTAIN: 

Amadeus Cardinalis Nescia

X.IV). Governor-General Richard de Reden REJECTED BY POPULAR VOTE, DECISION FOR PONTIFF

AYE:

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

NAY:

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

ABSTAIN: 

Amadeus Cardinalis Nescia

X.V). Vicar Lemuel de Langford REJECTED BY POPULAR VOTE, DECISION FOR PONTIFF

AYE:

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

NAY:

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

ABSTAIN: 

Amadeus Cardinalis Nescia

 

X.VI). Father Pius of Sutica PASSED BY POPULAR VOTE, DECISION FOR PONTIFF

AYE:

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

NAY:

ABSTAIN: 

Amadeus Cardinalis Nescia

 

X.VII). Anton Barclay PASSED BY POPULAR VOTE, DECISION FOR PONTIFF

AYE:

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

NAY:

ABSTAIN: 

Amadeus Cardinalis Nescia

 

XI). To beautify
XI.I). Cardinal Erasmus von Getreide of Ves [UNDECIDED]

AYE:

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

NAY:

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

ABSTAIN: 

Amadeus Cardinalis Nescia

 

XI.II). Queen Viktoria var Ruthern of Haense [REMOVED]

 

XI.III). Krisztián Cardinalis Ves [UNDECIDED]

AYE:

NAY:

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

ABSTAIN: 

Amadeus Cardinalis Nescia

 

XI.IV). Queen Maya of Muldav REJECTED

AYE:

NAY:

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

ABSTAIN: 

Amadeus Cardinalis Nescia

 

XII). To beautify, and then proceed to Canonize
XII.I). Andrik ‘I’ Vydra PASSED

AYE:

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

NAY:

ABSTAIN: 

Amadeus Cardinalis Nescia

 

XII.II). John of Carnatia REJECTED

AYE:

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

NAY:

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

ABSTAIN: 

Amadeus Cardinalis Nescia

XII.III). Jasper of Renzfeld [Withdrawn, discussion pending].

-

 

XII.IV). Otto II of Haense [Withdrawn, discussion pending].

-

 

XIII). To Canonize, 
XIII.I). Vytenis of Luciensport [Withdrawn, discussion pending].

-

XIII.II). High Pontiff Everard II  PASSED

AYE:

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

ABSTAIN: 

Amadeus Cardinalis Nescia

 

THE DEFEAT AT FORT HYSPIA 

@repl1ca @GoldWolfGaming @Zoprak_Visconti

 

The tent had become increasingly crowded, as clergy from all corners ventured in to debate and cast a vote. Organizationally, the First Ecumenical Council of Albarosa was rather hectic. Clergymen voted despite being prohibited to in the first round, and the Chamberlain tallied them regardless. Arguments between those favouring the quick process, and others feeling constrained by it, erupted amidst ongoing discussions. The proposals formulated took the lives of four different interpretations by four different camps at least, to the pain of the fatigued High Pontiff. Yet despite it all: the council functioned, and the clergy were able to represent their views accordingly. Decisions were made, and the delegations could depart knowing they had done a good job.

 

A mixed view on the quality of the council was not a bad view: and for Owyn III, who was still fresh on the Pontifical throne, such was sufficient. It seemed that every delegation achieved at least a minor victory, from canonizing their icons to stopping the beatifications of their foes. Jorenus saw its traditional opposition to reforms & bureaucracy to an electoral triumph, while the ecclesiastical puritans stopped Owyn III from needlessly re-authoring the old Canon Law. To a degree, His Holiness was pleased with seeing every party as partial victors from this council. But that pleasure wasn’t enough to quell a more profound sense of defeat. Once the council had concluded, all that Owyn III felt was the desire to take a fresh breath of air outside. 

 

As he walked towards the outskirts of Osanora, his hunting Castor Crossbow in hand: Manfried, Alfred & Antonius would sprint after him. For a moment Owyn III forgot that he was the Pontiff with the largest security entourage, he was now simply a man that didn’t get what he wanted. Aiming his crossbow at a faraway bird, the three would catch up to him. 

 

“Your Holiness..” Alfred spoke out of breath, going to stand besides him.

“Ahh, Episcopus Henrikev.” Owyn III replied dryly, tilting his head in an attempt to aim “How fared the Albarosan council for you?"

“It had fared well” Alfred smiled regaining his composure as the other two flanked him “not what ich expected, but it went well.”  

 

His Holiness would not see Alfred’s reassuring nod, as his eyes concentrated at the bird ahead
“Episcopus, do you find me to be lacking a particular insight on certain ecclesiastical matters?”

 

Alfred chuckled “Ich am sure that you wouldn’t be here, as the High Pontiff which only GOD ordains, not any other human..” he paused “if it weren’t for your insights, Your Holiness.”

“Hmm.” Owyn III would freeze, putting his hand on the trigger “How about my style of leadership. The way I handle my responsibilities?” 

 

Alfred nodded once more “Nobody is perfect. But yours is satisfying and brings success, nein?”

“Why then.” Owyn III would pull the trigger, the bolt penetrating the bird’s neck “Did I find you in opposition to nearly all my proposals?”

 

Manfried eyed Alfred out of curiosity, as Antonius swallowed in anticipation: it had after all been a surprise for some in the Curia that a staunch ally of the High Pontiff turned against all of his proposals. 

 

The Bishop of Henrikev would clear his throat, now looking at the solemn face of Owyn as he had lowered his crossbow “Your Holiness, these were just mein honest responses. The geist of your proposals were good. But the way they were worded were too vague for my support. I hope you aren’t taking this personally?”

 

Owyn III sighed, now fully looking at Alfred “Of course not. I called a council to hear what you had to say, not to hear my thoughts spoken through your mouth.” 

“Exactly Your Holiness.” Antonius smiled, clasping his hands behind his back “this is no different from when the Curia disagrees with you, no?”

 

“Yeah, yeah.” Owyn III chuckled slightly, reloading his crossbow “I suppose I should be desensitized to disagreements by now.”

“I’m happy that you’re not, Your Holiness.” Manfried interjected “A human Pontiff is the best thing the faith can wish for.”

 

And with that, the quartet of fatigued clerics would return to their carriages: heading home to their respective dioceses. Throughout the journey Owyn III struggled to place the council in his head. He felt disappointed at the results, but he didn’t regret proposing them. He felt solemn, yet reassured by the words of his clergy. “I guess it was a defeat.” he mumbled to himself, placing his head against the carriage window “but an okay one, I suppose.”
 

Owyn III presents the new tally.

 

I). To receive a mandate to completely overhaul the structuring & typography of the current Canon Law.

AYE:

Abbot Antonius Mihailo Visconti

Sanctitas Pontifex Maximus Owyn III

Monsignor Robert de Bourdon

Father Lajos Sandor Károly

NAY:

Otho Episcopus Valwyck

Francisco Episcopus Hyspia

Alfred Episcopus Henrikev

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

Vicary Episcopus Rochefort

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Father Karl Kortrevich

ABSTAIN:

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Adelric Episcopus Esbec

Father Dima Carrion-Tyuvic

 

II). To add a stipulation to Canon Law that makes the (Princely) Archdioceses of Providentia, Jorenus & Albarosa permanent within the Holy Mother Church, in name and in scope. 

AYE:

Otho Episcopus Valwyck

Francisco Episcopus Hyspia

Alfred Episcopus Henrikev

Abbot Antonius Mihailo Visconti

Sanctitas Pontifex Maximus Owyn III

Monsignor Robert de Bourdon

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Father Lajos Sandor Károly

Father Karl Kortrevich

NAY:

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

Vicary Episcopus Rochefort

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Adelric Episcopus Esbec

Father Dima Carrion-Tyuvic

 

III). To update the definitions in Book II, Title II. Chapter III., expanding the Curia roles currently present & outlining their tasks more concretely. This involves the addition of the new roles already granted, and to add onto the existing descriptions the de facto tasks of each curia role as well. 

AYE:

Otho Episcopus Valwyck

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

Abbot Antonius Mihailo Visconti

Sanctitas Pontifex Maximus Owyn III

Monsignor Robert de Bourdon

Father Lajos Sandor Károly

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Adelric Episcopus Esbec

NAY:

Francisco Episcopus Hyspia

Alfred Episcopus Henrikev

Vicary Episcopus Rochefort

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Father Dima Carrion-Tyuvic

Father Karl Kortrevich

 

IV). To change in Book IV, Title IV, Chapter III., that only one attributable miracle is necessary for sainthood: as not all current saints have two.

AYE:

Abbot Antonius Mihailo Visconti

Sanctitas Pontifex Maximus Owyn III

Father Lajos Sandor Károly

NAY:

Otho Episcopus Valwyck

Francisco Episcopus Hyspia

Alfred Episcopus Henrikev

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

Vicary Episcopus Rochefort

Monsignor Robert de Bourdon

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Adelric Episcopus Esbec

Father Karl Kortrevich

Father Dima Carrion-Tyuvic

 

V). To add in Book V, Title II, Chapter I that inciting sedition against, questioning the legitimacy of or conspiring to harm the High Pontiff commits a crime and excommunicates himself automatically. This would involve a law stipulation that specifies what circumstances would justify such: such as disputing a legitimate election, or inciting violence against the High Pontiff as a person.

AYE:

Otho Episcopus Valwyck

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

Abbot Antonius Mihailo Visconti

Sanctitas Pontifex Maximus Owyn III

Monsignor Robert de Bourdon

Father Lajos Sandor Károly

NAY:

Francisco Episcopus Hyspia

Alfred Episcopus Henrikev

Vicary Episcopus Rochefort

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Adelric Episcopus Esbec

Father Karl Kortrevich

Father Dima Carrion-Tyuvic

 

VI). To add in Book V, Title II a chapter that describes Papal Briefs. 

AYE:

Alfred Episcopus Henrikev

Francisco Episcopus Hyspia

Otho Episcopus Valwyck

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

Abbot Antonius Mihailo Visconti

Sanctitas Pontifex Maximus Owyn III

Monsignor Robert de Bourdon

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Father Lajos Sandor Károly

Father Karl Kortrevich

NAY:

Vicary Episcopus Rochefort

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Adelric Episcopus Esbec

Father Dima Carrion-Tyuvic

 

VII). To overhaul Book VI, Title II. Chapter III., rendering Minor Bulls ‘Archdiocesan Decrees’ and further streamlining them with the Golden Bulls of His Holiness.

AYE:

Alfred Episcopus Henrikev

Francisco Episcopus Hyspia

Otho Episcopus Valwyck

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

Abbot Antonius Mihailo Visconti

Sanctitas Pontifex Maximus Owyn III

Monsignor Robert de Bourdon

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Father Lajos Sandor Károly

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Adelric Episcopus Esbec

NAY:

Vicary Episcopus Rochefort

Father Karl Kortrevich

Father Dima Carrion-Tyuvic

 

VIII). [REMOVED]

 

IX). To add in BOOK VII, Title I, that the High Pontiff may, on his own accord, assume the role of judge within a trial, and overturn the ruling of a lesser judge with a majority of the cardinals backing such. This would require prior approval from the College of Cardinals and should principally be only used in severely important procedures. 

AYE:

Alfred Episcopus Henrikev

Francisco Episcopus Hyspia

Otho Episcopus Valwyck

Abbot Antonius Mihailo Visconti

Sanctitas Pontifex Maximus Owyn III

Monsignor Robert de Bourdon

Father Lajos Sandor Károly

NAY:

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

Vicary Episcopus Rochefort

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Adelric Episcopus Esbec

Father Karl Kortrevich

Father Dima Carrion-Tyuvic

 

XIV). Basil's proposal to remove interdiction

AYE:

Adelric Episcopus Esbec

Father Karl Kortrevich

Father Dima Carrion-Tyuvic

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

NAY:

Sanctitas Pontifex Maximus Owyn III

Father Lajos Sandor Károly

Francisco Episcopus Hyspia

 

XV). Basil's proposal for tithes

AYE:

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Adelric Episcopus Esbec

Father Karl Kortrevich

Father Dima Carrion-Tyuvic

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

NAY:

Sanctitas Pontifex Maximus Owyn III

Father Lajos Sandor Károly

Alfred Episcopus Henrikev

Francisco Episcopus Hyspia

 

XVI). Basil's proposal for new laws pertaining to the rebuking of the High Pontiff.

AYE:

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

NAY:

Sanctitas Pontifex Maximus Owyn III

Father Lajos Sandor Károly

Alfred Episcopus Henrikev

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Francisco Episcopus Hyspia

Adelric Episcopus Esbec

ABSTAIN:

Father Karl Kortrevich

Father Dima Carrion-Tyuvic

 

XVII). Basil's proposal pertaining to indulgences.

AYE:

Father Dima Carrion-Tyuvic

NAY:

Sanctitas Pontifex Maximus Owyn III

Father Lajos Sandor Károly

Alfred Episcopus Henrikev

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Francisco Episcopus Hyspia

Adelric Episcopus Esbec

Father Karl Kortrevich

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

----CARDINALS ONLY VOTE----

X). Although it is within the High Pontiff’s authority to venerate any Canonist at will, His Holiness seeks to gain popular approval for his nominees regardless: 

X.I).Empress Anne the August of Novellen 

AYE:

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

NAY:

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

X.II). His Holiness the High Pontiff James II PASSED

AYE:

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

NAY:

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

X.III). His Holiness the High Pontiff Pontian III PASSED

AYE:

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

NAY:

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

X.IV). Governor-General Richard de Reden REJECTED

AYE:

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

NAY:

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

X.V). Vicar Lemuel de Langford REJECTED

AYE:

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

NAY:

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

 

X.VI). Father Pius of Sutica PASSED

AYE:

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

NAY:

 

X.VII). Anton Barclay PASSED

AYE:

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

NAY:

 

XI). To beautify
XI.I). Cardinal Erasmus von Getreide of Ves

AYE:

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

NAY:

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

 

XI.II). Queen Viktoria var Ruthern of Haense [REMOVED]

-

 

 

XI.III). Krisztián Cardinalis Ves

AYE:

NAY:

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

 

XI.IV). Queen Maya of Muldav

AYE:

NAY:

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

 

XII). To beautify, and then proceed to Canonize
XII.I). Andrik ‘I’ Vydra PASSED

AYE:

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

NAY:

XII.II). John of Carnatia 

AYE:

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

NAY:

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

XII.III). Jasper of Renzfeld

AYE:

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

NAY:

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

 

XII.IV). Otto II of Haense

AYE:

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

NAY:

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

 

XIII). To Canonize, 
XIII.I). Vytenis of Luciensport

AYE:

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

NAY:

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

 

XIII.II). High Pontiff Everard II  PASSED

AYE:

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

NAY:

 

38 minutes ago, frill said:

"It is not in my right to question the divinely appointed Himself but I must question the purpose of His Holiness himself to draft laws excommunicating those questioning the legitimacy of the church mere saint's days before an inquiry into his own legitimacy led by his own curio. Why is such a severe thing as removal of communion with the Church immediate when it is in the interest of all Canonist souls to remain in communion of the faith? Why have this be something outside the realm of reconciliatory penance or judgement of ecclesiastical court? Why does this only arise so close to my own inquiry?"

 

Father Vic. queries with a raise of his porcine right pinky to the tent-top, darkly bag-framed eyes peeking past his moustache to read from the notes before him. His fork briefly clatters against the table as he sweeps through the reeves with some sceptical glare before finding his next line of query.

 

"I hasten to further question as to why a cardinal voted against the veneration of two pontiffs while voting for the veneration of two temporal politicians. What is not venerable about leading the faith but venerable about sitting in a house of politics? I would much rather an acolyte or a priest in the least-learned of parishes gain the courage to hit a politician, or even refute him, rather than that he should sit as a cardinal of the faith and venerate him over past fathers of the Church."

 

"Without any hypothetical to justify this, my hand is forced to yield."

 

"Auditor, I ask you to read the proposal more carefully. In the situation that they somehow logically lead to your interpretation as spoken, I humbly ask you to convene with me and compare the intention with the interpretation. Because I assure you, this proposal by no means shall lead to the excommunication of those that question the legitimacy of the High Pontiff alone. There are other criteria to be considered as well. Consider it a specification from just 'The Church', to 'The Church & The High Pontiff' as well. The stipulation will not, if it passes this council, lead to the blanket excommunication of dissent: or, be utilized as a weapon against individual dissenters. It is solely meant to close an ecclesiastical loophole our colleagues in the Curia claimed to have been troubled by in prior cases."

12 minutes ago, JoanOfArc said:

"Tuvyic" Dima emphasized to point out the pronunciation mistake, having a light smile on his face as he did so, "Carrion-Tuvyic."

 

Owyn III smiled back as he said "Tuvyic", before presenting the new tally.

 

I). To receive a mandate to completely overhaul the structuring & typography of the current Canon Law.

AYE:

Abbot Antonius Mihailo Visconti

Sanctitas Pontifex Maximus Owyn III

Monsignor Robert de Bourdon

Father Lajos Sandor Károly

NAY:

Otho Episcopus Valwyck

Francisco Episcopus Hyspia

Alfred Episcopus Henrikev

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

Vicary Episcopus Rochefort

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

ABSTAIN:

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Adelric Episcopus Esbec

 

II). To add a stipulation to Canon Law that makes the (Princely) Archdioceses of Providentia, Jorenus & Albarosa permanent within the Holy Mother Church, in name and in scope. 

AYE:

Otho Episcopus Valwyck

Francisco Episcopus Hyspia

Alfred Episcopus Henrikev

Abbot Antonius Mihailo Visconti

Sanctitas Pontifex Maximus Owyn III

Monsignor Robert de Bourdon

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Father Lajos Sandor Károly

NAY:

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

Vicary Episcopus Rochefort

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Adelric Episcopus Esbec

 

III). To update the definitions in Book II, Title II. Chapter III., expanding the Curia roles currently present & outlining their tasks more concretely. This involves the addition of the new roles already granted, and to add onto the existing descriptions the de facto tasks of each curia role as well. 

AYE:

Otho Episcopus Valwyck

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

Abbot Antonius Mihailo Visconti

Sanctitas Pontifex Maximus Owyn III

Monsignor Robert de Bourdon

Father Lajos Sandor Károly

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Adelric Episcopus Esbec

NAY:

Francisco Episcopus Hyspia

Alfred Episcopus Henrikev

Vicary Episcopus Rochefort

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

 

IV). To change in Book IV, Title IV, Chapter III., that only one attributable miracle is necessary for sainthood: as not all current saints have two.

AYE:

Abbot Antonius Mihailo Visconti

Sanctitas Pontifex Maximus Owyn III

Father Lajos Sandor Károly

NAY:

Otho Episcopus Valwyck

Francisco Episcopus Hyspia

Alfred Episcopus Henrikev

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

Vicary Episcopus Rochefort

Monsignor Robert de Bourdon

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Adelric Episcopus Esbec

 

V). To add in Book V, Title II, Chapter I that inciting sedition against, questioning the legitimacy of or conspiring to harm the High Pontiff commits a crime and excommunicates himself automatically. This would involve a law stipulation that specifies what circumstances would justify such: such as disputing a legitimate election, or inciting violence against the High Pontiff as a person.

AYE:

Otho Episcopus Valwyck

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

Abbot Antonius Mihailo Visconti

Sanctitas Pontifex Maximus Owyn III

Monsignor Robert de Bourdon

Father Lajos Sandor Károly

NAY:

Francisco Episcopus Hyspia

Alfred Episcopus Henrikev

Vicary Episcopus Rochefort

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Adelric Episcopus Esbec

 

VI). To add in Book V, Title II a chapter that describes Papal Briefs. 

AYE:

Alfred Episcopus Henrikev

Francisco Episcopus Hyspia

Otho Episcopus Valwyck

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

Abbot Antonius Mihailo Visconti

Sanctitas Pontifex Maximus Owyn III

Monsignor Robert de Bourdon

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Father Lajos Sandor Károly

NAY:

Vicary Episcopus Rochefort

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Adelric Episcopus Esbec

 

VII). To overhaul Book VI, Title II. Chapter III., rendering Minor Bulls ‘Archdiocesan Decrees’ and further streamlining them with the Golden Bulls of His Holiness.

AYE:

Alfred Episcopus Henrikev

Francisco Episcopus Hyspia

Otho Episcopus Valwyck

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

Abbot Antonius Mihailo Visconti

Sanctitas Pontifex Maximus Owyn III

Monsignor Robert de Bourdon

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Father Lajos Sandor Károly

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Adelric Episcopus Esbec

NAY:

Vicary Episcopus Rochefort

 

VIII). [REMOVED]

 

IX). To add in BOOK VII, Title I, that the High Pontiff may, on his own accord, assume the role of judge within a trial, and overturn the ruling of a lesser judge with a majority of the cardinals backing such. This would require prior approval from the College of Cardinals and should principally be only used in severely important procedures. 

AYE:

Alfred Episcopus Henrikev

Francisco Episcopus Hyspia

Otho Episcopus Valwyck

Abbot Antonius Mihailo Visconti

Sanctitas Pontifex Maximus Owyn III

Monsignor Robert de Bourdon

Father Lajos Sandor Károly

NAY:

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

Vicary Episcopus Rochefort

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Adelric Episcopus Esbec

 

XIV). Basil's proposal to remove interdiction

AYE:

Adelric Episcopus Esbec

NAY:

Sanctitas Pontifex Maximus Owyn III

Father Lajos Sandor Károly

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Francisco Episcopus Hyspia

 

XV). Basil's proposal for tithes

AYE:

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Adelric Episcopus Esbec

NAY:

Sanctitas Pontifex Maximus Owyn III

Father Lajos Sandor Károly

Alfred Episcopus Henrikev

Francisco Episcopus Hyspia

 

XVI). Basil's proposal for new laws pertaining to the rebuking of the High Pontiff.

AYE:

NAY:

Sanctitas Pontifex Maximus Owyn III

Father Lajos Sandor Károly

Alfred Episcopus Henrikev

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Francisco Episcopus Hyspia

Adelric Episcopus Esbec

 

XVII). Basil's proposal pertaining to indulgences.

AYE:

NAY:

Sanctitas Pontifex Maximus Owyn III

Father Lajos Sandor Károly

Alfred Episcopus Henrikev

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Francisco Episcopus Hyspia

Adelric Episcopus Esbec

----CARDINALS ONLY VOTE----

X). Although it is within the High Pontiff’s authority to venerate any Canonist at will, His Holiness seeks to gain popular approval for his nominees regardless: 

X.I).Empress Anne the August of Novellen 

AYE:

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

NAY:

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

X.II). His Holiness the High Pontiff James II PASSED

AYE:

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

NAY:

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

X.III). His Holiness the High Pontiff Pontian III PASSED

AYE:

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

NAY:

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

X.IV). Governor-General Richard de Reden REJECTED

AYE:

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

NAY:

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

X.V). Vicar Lemuel de Langford REJECTED

AYE:

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

NAY:

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

 

X.VI). Father Pius of Sutica PASSED

AYE:

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

NAY:

 

X.VII). Anton Barclay PASSED

AYE:

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

NAY:

 

XI). To beautify
XI.I). Cardinal Erasmus von Getreide of Ves

AYE:

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

NAY:

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

 

XI.II). Queen Viktoria var Ruthern of Haense [REMOVED]

-

 

 

XI.III). Krisztián Cardinalis Ves

AYE:

NAY:

 

XI.IV). Queen Maya of Muldav

AYE:

NAY:

 

XII). To beautify, and then proceed to Canonize
XII.I). Andrik ‘I’ Vydra PASSED

AYE:

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

NAY:

XII.II). John of Carnatia 

AYE:

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

NAY:

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

XII.III). Jasper of Renzfeld

AYE:

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

NAY:

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

 

XII.IV). Otto II of Haense

AYE:

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

NAY:

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

 

XIII). To Canonize, 
XIII.I). Vytenis of Luciensport

AYE:

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

NAY:

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

 

XIII.II). High Pontiff Everard II  PASSED

AYE:

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

NAY:

1 hour ago, JoanOfArc said:

Father Dima Carrion stood up to speak,

 

"While I do believe this ecumenical council to be rushed in the first 'phase' compared to that of the ecumenical coucil I attended under James II-- for what sake I do not understand-- I want to state that while it may be possible for Queen Viktoria to be a blessed, it is against Canon Law to even suggest she is. According to Canon Law, Chapter 4 §3, a Blessed must, "Have been deceased for more than five years,". While I have never met Queen Viktoria, who might I add is my aunt to show familial ties to her, to claim she is blessed is invalid as she has not passed in 1802 and it is 1804. And again, there are no stated miracles attributed to Queen Viktoria. Should you want to change the Canon Law for either of these reasons, I would be more than happy to vote, however, as of now, it is against Canon Law. So, again, I advocate for her veneration alongside the addition of Queen Maya of Muldav who is a just woman. I also call for the council to spend more time deliberating as this mistake is glaring and yet there are already votes on the issue. Do we wish for an ecumenical council to be guided by the Lord...? Then let us think before acting, brothers.

 

Dima peered into the eyes of Owyn III as he said his words, sitting down right after.

 

  Reveal hidden contents

1 - The beatification of Queen Viktoria var Ruthern is invalid because she has passed within two years opposed to the five required. She also has no miracles attributed to her. He calls for her veneration instead.

  Reveal hidden contents

§3. In order to be considered for beatification must: 

1. Have been deceased for more than five years,
2. Be a Canonist, or proven to be so after death,
3. Have lived a holy life,
4. Have one verified miracle attributed to their intercession after death 

 

 

2 - The urging for the veneration of Queen Maya of Muldav to the Cardinals.

 

3 - Allowing for the ecumenical council to have more time taken for it so that the errors made by clergy be resolved.

 

 

"I thank Father Dima Tyuvic for his attentiveness on the matter. Chamberlain Carlos @Proddy shall verify the date of her death accordingly, and shall then be removed from the list. It is for this reason exactly that we keep all documents of this council publicly."

As Round I. comes to an end, the Chamberlain @Proddyannounces the end of the commentary. Everyone is summoned to vote in this round 2. Any response from this point on that is not a vote will be counted as an abstain. Everyone is asked to see if they have already voted or not below.

 

I). To receive a mandate to completely overhaul the structuring & typography of the current Canon Law.

AYE:

Abbot Antonius Mihailo Visconti

Sanctitas Pontifex Maximus Owyn III

Monsignor Robert de Bourdon

Father Lajos Sandor Károly

NAY:

Otho Episcopus Valwyck

Francisco Episcopus Hyspia

Alfred Episcopus Henrikev

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

Vicary Episcopus Rochefort

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

ABSTAIN:

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Adelric Episcopus Esbec

 

II). To add a stipulation to Canon Law that makes the (Princely) Archdioceses of Providentia, Jorenus & Albarosa permanent within the Holy Mother Church, in name and in scope. 

AYE:

Otho Episcopus Valwyck

Francisco Episcopus Hyspia

Alfred Episcopus Henrikev

Abbot Antonius Mihailo Visconti

Sanctitas Pontifex Maximus Owyn III

Monsignor Robert de Bourdon

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Father Lajos Sandor Károly

NAY:

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

Vicary Episcopus Rochefort

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Adelric Episcopus Esbec

 

III). To update the definitions in Book II, Title II. Chapter III., expanding the Curia roles currently present & outlining their tasks more concretely. This involves the addition of the new roles already granted, and to add onto the existing descriptions the de facto tasks of each curia role as well. 

AYE:

Otho Episcopus Valwyck

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

Abbot Antonius Mihailo Visconti

Sanctitas Pontifex Maximus Owyn III

Monsignor Robert de Bourdon

Father Lajos Sandor Károly

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Adelric Episcopus Esbec

NAY:

Francisco Episcopus Hyspia

Alfred Episcopus Henrikev

Vicary Episcopus Rochefort

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

 

IV). To change in Book IV, Title IV, Chapter III., that only one attributable miracle is necessary for sainthood: as not all current saints have two.

AYE:

Abbot Antonius Mihailo Visconti

Sanctitas Pontifex Maximus Owyn III

Father Lajos Sandor Károly

NAY:

Otho Episcopus Valwyck

Francisco Episcopus Hyspia

Alfred Episcopus Henrikev

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

Vicary Episcopus Rochefort

Monsignor Robert de Bourdon

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Adelric Episcopus Esbec

 

V). To add in Book V, Title II, Chapter I that inciting sedition against, questioning the legitimacy of or conspiring to harm the High Pontiff commits a crime and excommunicates himself automatically. This would involve a law stipulation that specifies what circumstances would justify such: such as disputing a legitimate election, or inciting violence against the High Pontiff as a person.

AYE:

Otho Episcopus Valwyck

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

Abbot Antonius Mihailo Visconti

Sanctitas Pontifex Maximus Owyn III

Monsignor Robert de Bourdon

Father Lajos Sandor Károly

NAY:

Francisco Episcopus Hyspia

Alfred Episcopus Henrikev

Vicary Episcopus Rochefort

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Adelric Episcopus Esbec

 

VI). To add in Book V, Title II a chapter that describes Papal Briefs. 

AYE:

Alfred Episcopus Henrikev

Francisco Episcopus Hyspia

Otho Episcopus Valwyck

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

Abbot Antonius Mihailo Visconti

Sanctitas Pontifex Maximus Owyn III

Monsignor Robert de Bourdon

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Father Lajos Sandor Károly

NAY:

Vicary Episcopus Rochefort

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Adelric Episcopus Esbec

 

VII). To overhaul Book VI, Title II. Chapter III., rendering Minor Bulls ‘Archdiocesan Decrees’ and further streamlining them with the Golden Bulls of His Holiness.

AYE:

Alfred Episcopus Henrikev

Francisco Episcopus Hyspia

Otho Episcopus Valwyck

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

Abbot Antonius Mihailo Visconti

Sanctitas Pontifex Maximus Owyn III

Monsignor Robert de Bourdon

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Father Lajos Sandor Károly

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Adelric Episcopus Esbec

NAY:

Vicary Episcopus Rochefort

 

VIII). [REMOVED]

 

IX). To add in BOOK VII, Title I, that the High Pontiff may, on his own accord, assume the role of judge within a trial, and overturn the ruling of a lesser judge with a majority of the cardinals backing such. This would require prior approval from the College of Cardinals and should principally be only used in severely important procedures. 

AYE:

Alfred Episcopus Henrikev

Francisco Episcopus Hyspia

Otho Episcopus Valwyck

Abbot Antonius Mihailo Visconti

Sanctitas Pontifex Maximus Owyn III

Monsignor Robert de Bourdon

Father Lajos Sandor Károly

NAY:

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

Vicary Episcopus Rochefort

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Adelric Episcopus Esbec

 

XIV). Basil's proposal to remove interdiction

AYE:

Adelric Episcopus Esbec

NAY:

Sanctitas Pontifex Maximus Owyn III

Father Lajos Sandor Károly

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Francisco Episcopus Hyspia

 

XV). Basil's proposal for tithes

AYE:

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Adelric Episcopus Esbec

NAY:

Sanctitas Pontifex Maximus Owyn III

Father Lajos Sandor Károly

Alfred Episcopus Henrikev

Francisco Episcopus Hyspia

 

XVI). Basil's proposal for new laws pertaining to the rebuking of the High Pontiff.

AYE:

NAY:

Sanctitas Pontifex Maximus Owyn III

Father Lajos Sandor Károly

Alfred Episcopus Henrikev

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Francisco Episcopus Hyspia

Adelric Episcopus Esbec

 

XVII). Basil's proposal pertaining to indulgences.

AYE:

NAY:

Sanctitas Pontifex Maximus Owyn III

Father Lajos Sandor Károly

Alfred Episcopus Henrikev

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Francisco Episcopus Hyspia

Adelric Episcopus Esbec

----CARDINALS ONLY VOTE----

X). Although it is within the High Pontiff’s authority to venerate any Canonist at will, His Holiness seeks to gain popular approval for his nominees regardless: 

X.I).Empress Anne the August of Novellen 

AYE:

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

NAY:

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

X.II). His Holiness the High Pontiff James II PASSED

AYE:

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

NAY:

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

X.III). His Holiness the High Pontiff Pontian III PASSED

AYE:

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

NAY:

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

X.IV). Governor-General Richard de Reden REJECTED

AYE:

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

NAY:

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

X.V). Vicar Lemuel de Langford REJECTED

AYE:

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

NAY:

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

 

X.VI). Father Pius of Sutica PASSED

AYE:

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

NAY:

 

X.VII). Anton Barclay PASSED

AYE:

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

NAY:

 

XI). To beautify
XI.I). Cardinal Erasmus von Getreide of Ves

AYE:

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

NAY:

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

 

XI.II). Queen Viktoria var Ruthern of Haense

AYE:

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

NAY:

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

 

XI.III). Krisztián Cardinalis Ves

AYE:

NAY:

 

XI.IV). Queen Maya of Muldav

AYE:

NAY:

 

XII). To beautify, and then proceed to Canonize
XII.I). Andrik ‘I’ Vydra PASSED

AYE:

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

NAY:

XII.II). John of Carnatia 

AYE:

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

NAY:

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

XII.III). Jasper of Renzfeld

AYE:

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

NAY:

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

 

XII.IV). Otto II of Haense

AYE:

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

NAY:

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

 

XIII). To Canonize, 
XIII.I). Vytenis of Luciensport

AYE:

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

NAY:

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

 

XIII.II). High Pontiff Everard II  PASSED

AYE:

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar

Manfried Cardinalis Providentia

NAY:

 

[!] All ashtrays would be filled with cigarettes, as the fatigued nuns would scurry about to deliver the updated list of proposals from His Holiness. The Chamberlain @Proddywould speak shortly before the clergy gathered: 

 

"His Holiness has added the given petitions to the list and has, on the basis of your concerns, elaborated upon other points. I wish to remind everyone that you may not vote in Round I yet, and that only Cardinals can vote on the topic of canonizations, beatifications & venerations alone. On the new document, every edit is written in this colour." Padre Carlos would then proceed to show the green text to the room. 

 

THE CURRENT TALLY FOR CANONIZATIONS, BEATIFICATIONS & VENERATIONS: 

 

 

VENERATIONS:

Empress Anne the August of Novellen 

AYE:

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

NAY:

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

 

 

His Holiness the High Pontiff James II

AYE:

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

NAY:

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

 

 

His Holiness the High Pontiff Pontian III

AYE:

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

NAY:

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

 

 

Governor-General Richard de Reden

AYE:

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

NAY:

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

 

 

Vicar Lemuel de Langford

AYE:

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

NAY:

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

 

 

Father Pius of Sutica

AYE:

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

NAY:

 

Cardinal Anton Barclay of Reinmar

AYE:

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

NAY:

 

 

BEATIFICATIONS: 

Cardinal Erasmus von Gertreide of Ves

AYE:

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

NAY:

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

 

 

Queen Viktoria var Ruthern of Haense

AYE:

NAY:

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

 

BEATIFICATIONS FOLLOWED BY CANONIZATIONS:

Andrik 'I' Vydra

AYE:

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

NAY:

 

 

John of Carnatia

AYE:

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

NAY:

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

 

 

Jasper of Renzfeld

AYE:

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

NAY:

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

 

 

Otto II of Haense

AYE:

NAY:

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

 

 

 

CANONIZATIONS: 

Vytenis of Luciensport

AYE:

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

NAY:

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

 

 

High Pontiff Everard II

AYE:

Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus

Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa

NAY:

 

@argonian@Caranthir_@Piov@GoldWolfGaming@Julio ツ

 

In response to Monsignor Armas @frill, His Holiness would address the individual points mentioned.

 

"The construct of this council is lacking and its content outrageous. It is the nature of an ecumenical council to have quorum of three-quarters of the priesthood and we have severely restricted the presence to five cardinals of the septarchy and five bishops. To be both binding by the laws of the faith and keeping in harmony enough that the bishops are both aware of and accepting of the laws they expect their own flocks to follow, you must allow them to be present among us."

 

Such is allowed.

 

"No -I see no reason to call an ecumenical council to change the font or aesthetics of script of the current codices."

 

This council overlaps two procedures: that of Diets as we have witnessed in Helena, and that of econumical councils that we have witnessed in Providence. Henceforth, proposals such as these belong here as well.

 

"No - Both Jorenus and Providentia are states ruled by a Canonist monarch so fulfil the criteria of prince-archdiocese. The only defining extent documents for Albarosa do not qualify it as such."

 

Only Albarosa is a Prince-Archdiocese, the rest are not: this stipulation would make their existence and jurisdictions permanent, so that a future High Pontiff cannot weaken or strengthen one over the other without assent from his clergy.

 

"No - This proposition is dangerously vague and I cannot assent to it without exhaustive clarification of what is to be modified, to the exact wording."

 

The Prelate of the Sisterhood currently is not mentioned in Canon Law, neither is our Pontifical Legate. This is outdated and needs an update: you are looking into this wrong, Episcopus.

 

"No - It is the nature of those blessed by the church to be responsible for one miracle. It is not the criteria for sainthood but the sainthood of these individuals that must be redressed."

 

Sure.

 

"No - There are already provisions for those inciting contempt of or sedition against the Church. It is the first crime against virtue in Canon law. Refusing communion for those that express doubt will turn the faith into fools and dogmatists as even the most pious and reverent question things. I am at all impasses against enshrining contemporary politics into law and see this as nothing more than a will for the Pontiff to expedite the removal of dissenting voices from the fair courts of the Mother Church. To increase what penalty there is from a hearing of the ecclesiastical court to excommunication ad initio is a folly that will send every acolyte out of the faith within weeks of them joining it. Only fools do not have doubts and we do not want to be a faith of fools, the tools of the faith allow us to mediate and find right penance for those questioning the legitimacy of any organ of the church. Excommunication does not meet that healing end and simply removes them from communion and the eye, a sweeping under the rug."

 

Fair, although you have misunderstood this stipulation. We have seen that the definitions as perscribed in Canon Law are vague. When His Holiness, the entire Synod and Curia, all Archdioceses & dioceses agree that two individuals were schismatic -- but due to a technicality in wording, we could not declare them such, we should feel the need to resolve the stipulations that led to this ecclesiastically legal limbo. No, this would not mean that when someone signs a petition or disagrees with my policy, as you are now, would be excommunicated. It would however mean that if someone acts schismatic, but only targets His Holiness and not the institution as a whole, we can still prosecute him accordingly: or declare him as excommunicated, which a schismatic de facto is until penance.

 

"No - The canon law already outlines and clarifies the purpose of pontifical letters. To refer to them as breve is a description of their nature; they are brief and subsequently not as solemn as bullae."

 

There is no issue that I can foresee by including this new method of communication in Canon Law that describes all other methods of ecclesiastical correspondence. 

 

"No - Book VI, Title II. Chapter III is explicit in its reference to the purpose of minor bullae as those issued by provincial pastors for their provinces for matters that may not supersede or conflict with canon law or golden bullae. They are minor in their nature due to being promulgated by a pastor instead of the pontiff himself, so the name minor bull must remain and be used in writing."

 

I refer you to the words of the wise Monsignor de Bourdon. 

 

"No - Richard Reden and Lemuel Lengford, whoever these men may be, have no record of active worship nor interacting with the faith so I would struggle to acknowledge them as possessing virtue more than the average man. In the case of your friend Lengford, would pity what fool who prays for the intercession of a politician through prayer. Veneration is final and may not be revoked unless there are factual errors at play, to use it as a folly and political reward to your Everardine political era peers is a stain on the escutcheon of this pontificate. I understand that you may have longing for nations of yore and a love of old homes, but the church is not a tool of personal reward for old peers. Do not sully the realm of the spiritual with rewards for your temporal friends and venerate those worthy of veneration instead."

 

As for Richard de Reden, I again refer you to the words of the wise Monsignor de Bourdon.

 

As for Lemuel de Langford, he was the Vicar of Ves under my tenure as Prince-Archbishop of Albarosa & Erasmus' tenure as the Bishop of Ves. He aided greatly in the expansion of the Kaedreni clergy and ensured that the young Ministry of Justice honored ecclesiastical interests. He was the chief figure to normalize relations between these two institutions after the Károly trial, and during his tenure in the House of Commons he staunchly defended Canonist interests. 

 

I will tolerate your implicit jabs towards my integrity in the spirit of free discourse Auditor, but I implore you to inquire better about my relationships to these folk before tainting our discussions with weak presumptions on motive and character. Let us share a good drink and Hyspian meal after this. 

 

"No - you ascribe no miracles to these people, just a list of names. There is far more to sainthood than being a name alone. Should these become private petitions that the curia may work over, investigate and vote upon, then that will be a worthwhile cause, but it is a fool’s errand to busy an ecumenical council with matters so spurious, vague and severe. Those interested in beatification or canonisation of these individuals may make individual petitions that elucidate their merit but it is not the place of an ecumenical council to expedite them so."

 

 

For everyone besides John of Carnatia, we have received petitions and private letters outlining their miracles and histories: something you have had access to as well. In the case of John of Carnatia, we are awaiting for the author's petition to arrive: which should be well within the duration of this council. 

THE FIRST ECUMENICAL COUNCIL OF ALBAROSA
IN THE DIOCESE OF HYSPIA, OSANORA

 

 

The citizens of Hyspia looked confused, as carriages upon carriages would park around the bustling Sutican city of Osanora. With candles and oil lamps lighting up various sections of the large desert: the crews would work to install one grandiose tent rivaling the size of palaces. Jokingly, this monstrosity of a tent would be called ‘Fort Hyspia’. It was placed in the desert to serve as a neutral ground between all dioceses.

 

‘Fort Hyspia’ in the desert besides the City of Osanora, 1804

 

As the framework of the tent began to take shape, crewmen & caterers would work to prepare the interiors: lavishly decorating the walls with silken curtains, the tables with crystal glasses and ashtrays. Carriages carrying barrels of water and other beverages were brought, as a separate tent functioning as the kitchen was constructed besides it. There, the local cuisine of each delegation would be made: in hopes to make this five-day stay bearable.

 

It would take a day before everything was finished, for the esteemed papal delegations from all dioceses to arrive. His Holiness, flanked by his Monsignors & Chamberlain Carlos, would slowly walk towards his throne within the tent. After taking off his Roche-bans and placing his cane against the table, he would beckon for all attendees to sit down. 

 

The nuns then hurried to bring the documents to every delegation, while the hired caterers poured a variety of local drinks all around. The Pontifical Chamberlain @Proddy took this opportunity to read out the guest list, asking if they were present: 

 

DELEGATION FROM PROVIDENTIA 
His Eminence Manfried Cardinalis Providentia @GoldWolfGaming
His Eminence Amadeus Cardinalis Nescia @Caranthir_

 

His Excellency the Apostle-General Armande-Philippe Episcopus Metz, @LithiumSedai

 

DELEGATION FROM JORENUS
His Eminence Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus @Piov
His Eminence Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar @argonian

 

The Right Reverend Alfred Episcopus Henrikev @repl1ca
The Right Reverend Otho Episcopus Valwyck @Drumoldth

 

DELEGATION FROM ALBAROSA
His Eminence Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa @Julio ツ

 

The Right Reverend Francisco Episcopus Hyspia @Timer5011
The Right Reverend Vicary Episcopus Rochefort @frill

The Right Reverend Adelric Episcopus Esbec @MadOne

 

OBSERVERS [Can participate, but cannot vote].
The Esteemed Monsignor Robert de Bourdon @Tiresiam
The Esteemed Monsignor Edmund Myre @Old Man Boiendl
The Esteemed Monsignor Fiske Vanir @Sander

 

After all delegates were accounted for, His Holiness would rise from his throne to address the delegations: 

 

“Dearly beloved, 

 

Our High Pontificate has shown a continuous effort to reform the Holy Mother Church into an institution that can compete with the rampant secularization of our congregation’s governments. We have achieved historical levels of inter-diocesan cooperation and the expansion of our faith. 

 

Today, this council is summoned to set forward the direction of our Holy Mother Church. With our petitions, proposals & reforms together: we shall chart a course of great importance in our fight for humanity’s soul. I ask of all my esteemed Eminences & Reverends to put the faith and wellbeing of your congregations first, and to vote in absence of temporal influences and allegiances. 

 

In this first round, we shall discuss and organize all petitions, proposals & reforms that we wish to vote on in this council. Then, in the second round, we shall provide them in a listed fashion for all attendees to vote on. Let me now begin this week’s affair by introducing a document outlining my own.”

 

His Holiness would nod towards the clerical staff, who would quickly pass on the papers around the tables. In the meantime, delegations were busy sorting their own proposals: awaiting their turn to speak. Once the attendees received the document, it would look like this:

 

 

 

"To the esteemed attendees of the first ECUNEMICAL COUNCIL OF ALBAROSA; 
Do find the listed proposals of SANCTITAS PONTIFEX MAXIMUS OWYN III below.

 

I). To receive a mandate to completely overhaul the structuring & typography of the current Canon Law.

 

II). To add a stipulation to Canon Law that makes the (Princely) Archdioceses of Providentia, Jorenus & Albarosa permanent within the Holy Mother Church, in name and in scope. 

 

III). To update the definitions in Book II, Title II. Chapter III., expanding the Curia roles currently present & outlining their tasks more concretely. This involves the addition of the new roles already granted, and to add onto the existing descriptions the de facto tasks of each curia role as well. 

 

IV). To change in Book IV, Title IV, Chapter III., that only one attributable miracle is necessary for sainthood: as not all current saints have two.

 

V). To add in Book V, Title II, Chapter I that inciting sedition against, questioning the legitimacy of or conspiring to harm the High Pontiff commits a crime and excommunicates himself automatically. This would involve a law stipulation that specifies what circumstances would justify such: such as disputing a legitimate election, or inciting violence against the High Pontiff as a person.

 

VI). To add in Book V, Title II a chapter that describes Papal Briefs. 

 

VII). To overhaul Book VI, Title II. Chapter III., rendering Minor Bulls ‘Archdiocesan Decrees’ and further streamlining them with the Golden Bulls of His Holiness.

 

VIII). [REMOVED]

 

IX). To add in BOOK VII, Title I, that the High Pontiff may, on his own accord, assume the role of judge within a trial, and overturn the ruling of a lesser judge with a majority of the cardinals backing such. This would require prior approval from the College of Cardinals and should principally be only used in severely important procedures. 

 

X). Although it is within the High Pontiff’s authority to venerate any Canonist at will, His Holiness seeks to gain popular approval for his nominees regardless: 

X.I).Empress Anne the August of Novellen 
X.II). His Holiness the High Pontiff James II
X.III). His Holiness the High Pontiff Pontian III
X.IV). Governor-General Richard de Reden
X.V). Vicar Lemuel de Langford

X.VI). Father Pius of Sutica

X.VII). Anton Barclay

 

XI). To beautify
XI.I). Cardinal Erasmus von Getreide of Ves

XI.II). Queen Viktoria var Ruthern of Haense

 

XII). To beautify, and then proceed to Canonize
XII.I). Andrik ‘I’ Vydra 
XII.II). John of Carnatia 
XII.III). Jasper of Renzfeld

XII.IV). Otto II of Haense

 

XIII). To Canonize, 
XIII.I). Vytenis of Luciensport
XIII.II). High Pontiff Everard II

 

Te Deum.

 

GODANI JEST WIELKI 

 

PONTIFEX MAXIMUS
OWYN III"

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[ONLY MEMBERS OF THE CLERGY MIGHT COMMENT OR ROLEPLAY TO HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF THE DISCUSSIONS IN THIS MEETING]

[ROUND I. - Collecting proposals, reforms & petitions]

[If you have nothing to propose yourself, say so on the thread].
[ROUND II. - Voting list formed, vote on each point].

 

ROUND I. 

ALL ATTENDEES ARE INVITED TO SPEAK ON THEIR OWN PROPOSALS, PETITIONS & REFORMS.