Warclaim On Malinor; The Conclave Rises

[Fid 566]

Today the Conclave has shown its true face to the people of Malinor... a face that I, along with the High Council, have seen since we discovered its conception. It is a face of greed, manipulation, and a thirst for power... and in all those things, it is the face of their so-called Justicar. He stole the land with the help of the Sky Gods and their magic regions, he built his walls and had them alter the landscape to suit his needs, and now at last he has declared war upon the Princedom of Malinor, a crime that is cursed in the eyes of any mali, regardless of creed. I would have allowed the Conclave to stay peacefully... Indeed, I was willing to let them stew in their Sky God spawned quartz houses. But this... this is a crime of high treason, disgusting and reeking of envy. This is a crime of spite, of hatred, and of disgruntled minor officials seeking an avenue to power heedless of the blood of innocent Elves.

 

((We will not be accepting or denying this warclaim until Kalameet and the Council sit down with an unbiased GM or Admin and discuss terms, location, and whatnot. You have me on Skype, start negotiating.))

[Heero 4092]

 

 

Followed by old men of the Easterners including his Uncle who was born of half Manchu hereitage in the Easterners known as Tsung Ishikawa a mixture of both the Heartland Eastern Culture and that of the Manchu sub-sect. The only sorcerer in the Ishikawa family. He finally reaches Kalameet and speaks

 

"I come back to you now at the turn of the tide."

 

 

 

Archmage Crumena descends down from the fresh emerald mountains. He comes to a halt, gazing down at the rail yet familiar visage of the age-old Ishikawa. A shudder runs through his frame as he abruptly shakes his head from side to side.

"To think that old bag of bones is still kicking..." the pale Magi grumbles to himself.

"...It seems we are going to experience yet another Kal'Karik. Except now there won't be a Cataris to cease the madness." he whines to himself.

[hosper 77]

(( I feel like you are not able to have one battle to destroy a city. Let alone the capital. You can't simply make a b-line spam click for five minutes with one War Claim and destroy a nation)))

[Lago 2572]

((Didn't know the Conclave was a nation. Looks more like a Civil War to me.))

[The Lion 736]

Suspended when they would need his military the most, Lion smokes a blunt whilst drinking brew out of a 40 ounce container on a stoop.

 

((I see a bunch of claims and ideas, so far Viros has said the only important thing OOCly. Show me the war rules, I don't want some socially agreed upon set of make belief rules from le awesome GMs, I want to see the actual war rules. Don't see why they can't come straight for our capital, it's the only settlement run by Malinor. You have the two towns which are either neutral and letting soldiers pass through or too far away to stop an army from reaching New Malinor. Poor national planning and lack of defensive structures will go down as the bane of Malinor.))

[Stag 3234]

((You could always have the first battle take place in the forest between Lenniel and Malinor.

Forests are to elves what forts are to humans))

[WuHanXianShi14 0]

((The space between Lenniel and Malinor is about 30 blocks...if not less. The battle would just bleed into Lenniel.))

[Moot 1719]

Today the Conclave has shown its true face to the people of Malinor... a face that I, along with the High Council, have seen since we discovered its conception. It is a face of greed, manipulation, and a thirst for power... and in all those things, it is the face of their so-called Justicar. He stole the land with the help of the Sky Gods and their magic regions, he built his walls and had them alter the landscape to suit his needs, and now at last he has declared war upon the Princedom of Malinor, a crime that is cursed in the eyes of any mali, regardless of creed. I would have allowed the Conclave to stay peacefully... Indeed, I was willing to let them stew in their Sky God spawned quartz houses. But this... this is a crime of high treason, disgusting and reeking of envy. This is a crime of spite, of hatred, and of disgruntled minor officials seeking an avenue to power heedless of the blood of innocent Elves.

 

((We will not be accepting or denying this warclaim until Kalameet and the Council sit down with an unbiased GM or Admin and discuss terms, location, and whatnot. You have me on Skype, start negotiating.))

((I said must earlier if you wanted to speak with me, you had my Skype. Last time I checked, High Council OOCly ex-communicated me, and removed me from all the chats. Maybe it'd be wise to, y'know, re-add me?))

"The so-called High King of Malinor seeks to call us power hungry, while he claims his family greater then all Mali; he seeks to re-write history to suit his family needs. You speak of us stealing lands, whilst I had personally spoken too, and bought the land from the King of Oren. Then Titania comes to our lands, threatening us with siege attacks and the like. No, High King; you are the greedy and corrupt, you are what must be made remove.

Oh, and regarding our magical Quartz; it's sad to see when hard work is seen as trickery. West Malinor Trading Company sends it's regards, I'm sure."

 

[Cyndikate 2303]

 

 

((We will not be accepting or denying this warclaim until Kalameet and the Council sit down with an unbiased GM or Admin and discuss terms, location, and whatnot. You have me on Skype, start negotiating.))

((You are not required to accept the warclaim.))

[Lago 2572]

The New War System

 

Types of War

 

These are the different types of war that can be ‘conducted’ on the server:

 

Invasion: One nation invades another. This proceeds according to the War Mechanics section. A nation can only invade adjacent territory or territory they have permission to pass through, and they cannot invade by sea unless agreed on. An invasion only takes place in the nation being invaded. The invader has initiative.

 

After the first battle, if at any time the defender owns all of their territories, they win. This means that if the invader loses the first battle, they immediately lose the invasion. The invader cannot attack that nation for three Elven months unless that nation attacks them. They can still attack other nations, however.

 

Pillage: One nation attacks another settlement in order to sack it. This is a single battle. If won, that nation gets temporary region access to pillage the settlement. If they lose, they cannot attack that nation for one Elven month unless that nation attacks them first. They can still attack other nations, however.

 

War of Secession: One town declares itself independent or allied to another nation. The nation that owned it can immediately declare a warclaim to retake it. This is a single battle, resulting in either the recapture of a settlement or the settlement joining another nation or becoming independent.

 

Civil War: Any number of settlements within a nation can declare Civil War, splitting the nation into Rebel and Loyalist factions. All territories are Neutral save the rebel territories and the capital until they declare themselves Rebel or Loyalist, but they can turn their coats at any time without triggered a War of Secession. However, not siding with the winner may have consequences. This then proceeds according to the War Mechanics section until one faction is destroyed or peace is agreed (which may result in a nation split in two.) Initiative is determined by an open field battle.

 

This means rebel groups cannot actually do anything without controlling at least one territory.

 

Freeform War: The two factions agree on a freeform war and set the terms themselves.

 

 

 

Mechanics of War

 

The mechanics of war are how war works, and what rules must be observed during war time.

 

When two factions are at war, they take turns to ‘warclaim’ adjacent territories (forts, outposts, towns and cities). One faction has initiative, meaning they do the attacking, and they lose initiative by losing.

 

Warclaims are NOT done via a specific format, and nor are they required to be posted on the forums (although, it’s best if the later is done for organisation's sake). They are an agreement between the leaders involved in the war.

 

Prior to the war, battle terms are agreed. These determine what can be used in battles. By default, everything that is mechanically possible is allowed and everything that requires GMs or ModReqs is disallowed. All allies are allowed. This default applies to anything not specified in the terms, so be clear to specify very clearly what is allowed and what is not! Naturally, if the war involves attacking settlements, then some sort of siege weapon has to be agreed. Knowingly breaching the war terms, if proven, results in a server ban.

 

“Surprise attacks”, that is to say, attacks where one faction has allies and the other does not, are disallowed by default.

 

After the first battle has resolved, new territories cannot be built in the war area until the war is over.

 

When a Conquest Battle is won, the winner gets to appoint a new leader of that territory. This leader cannot lead any other territories in the warzone.

 

A war can be ended at any time by a peace agreement between the two factions. Otherwise, it proceeds until one faction is completely under the rule of the other.

 

If a war degenerates into OOC, then the Admin Team have the authority to stop it by majority vote, albeit in a manner incredibly unpleasant for both nation. N.B. It is extremely unlikely that this will ever occur.

 

 

 

Raids

 

Raiding parties have a four man size cap for unaffiliated raids and an eight man size cap for raids from a nation (although this counts as an attack). All raiders require 1a2a, no form of siege weapon (including ladders or grappling hooks) or ModReq access may be used.

 

This system is being put into place, and we’ll see how it goes. If it goes badly, or is detrimental to the server or to roleplay, we’ll remove it. Keep in mind however, it’s not actually us that designed this ourselves, this was designed largely (and I believe mainly) by nation leaders themselves.

 

Cheers to all the guys who worked on the system, and let’s see how well it works!

 

((You are not required to accept the warclaim.))

Their acceptance is needed for the first warclaim (as terms must be agreed), assuming you mean their acceptance is irrelevant rather than they're allowed to deny it.

[The Lion 736]

((May I have the url location of the war rules posted?))

[Stag 3234]

((The space between Lenniel and Malinor is about 30 blocks...if not less. The battle would just bleed into Lenniel.))

 

((You can choose to not be in a war but unless you wall your town you can't prevent fighting from travelling through the town. Caught in the crossfire.))

[Sky 0]

Today the Conclave has shown its true face to the people of Malinor... a face that I, along with the High Council, have seen since we discovered its conception. It is a face of greed, manipulation, and a thirst for power... and in all those things, it is the face of their so-called Justicar. He stole the land with the help of the Sky Gods and their magic regions, he built his walls and had them alter the landscape to suit his needs, and now at last he has declared war upon the Princedom of Malinor, a crime that is cursed in the eyes of any mali, regardless of creed. I would have allowed the Conclave to stay peacefully... Indeed, I was willing to let them stew in their Sky God spawned quartz houses. But this... this is a crime of high treason, disgusting and reeking of envy. This is a crime of spite, of hatred, and of disgruntled minor officials seeking an avenue to power heedless of the blood of innocent Elves.

 

((We will not be accepting or denying this warclaim until Kalameet and the Council sit down with an unbiased GM or Admin and discuss terms, location, and whatnot. You have me on Skype, start negotiating.))

((

 

I would like to ask that you don't be passive aggressive with responses.

 

Especially, when you are taking OOC claims into RP . . .

 

They were actually never given the region, the region was there previously, before new Malinor was even considered.

 

As well as the apparent spawned quartz houses, they had zero help from the team.

 

So please, stop accusing them of cheating, especially when you accuse them of OOC cheating through RP.

 

On the topic of the sit down, with Kalameet and the council, with an unbiased GM or admin . . .

 

I, Sky, will happily attend.

 

))

[ski_king3 0]

Feanor hears of the speech of Eleron, his lips curling into a frown. He was surprised to find that the elf was not only a deviant from Malin's path, but also one of malicious intent. "It appears Kalameet was right in his claims of the High Prince's character. It is sad that a few innocents must pay the penance for his failure, but with luck, the monks shall heal all but the least worthy. Nonetheless, my blade shall be with those who have a dream for a better realm of elves."

 

((To clarify, the vast majority of the quartz was gathered by myself and those who work for me in the West Malinor Trading Company. If you wish, I can show you the tunnel I've used to mine, which parts I've mined quartz from specifically and how long the tunnel is (I've probably mined 1000+ blocks in a 4x4 tunnel at least). Likewise, I've bought quite a bit of quartz from the auction houses, whenever I see it at relatively cheap prices, because hey, we need quartz, and I made a butt ton of money that I made the conscious decision to spend. I know Lima also purchased us some quartz, as has Kalameet. I'd appreciate if our diligence was not met with claims of abuse and bias.

 
Likewise, the region was there ages ago. If we'd made it recently, we wouldn't have named it "greatlake" but instead something like "TheConclave"))

[Cyndikate 2303]

Today the Conclave has shown its true face to the people of Malinor... a face that I, along with the High Council, have seen since we discovered its conception. It is a face of greed, manipulation, and a thirst for power... and in all those things, it is the face of their so-called Justicar. He stole the land with the help of the Sky Gods and their magic regions, he built his walls and had them alter the landscape to suit his needs, and now at last he has declared war upon the Princedom of Malinor, a crime that is cursed in the eyes of any mali, regardless of creed. I would have allowed the Conclave to stay peacefully... Indeed, I was willing to let them stew in their Sky God spawned quartz houses. But this... this is a crime of high treason, disgusting and reeking of envy. This is a crime of spite, of hatred, and of disgruntled minor officials seeking an avenue to power heedless of the blood of innocent Elves.

 

((We will not be accepting or denying this warclaim until Kalameet and the Council sit down with an unbiased GM or Admin and discuss terms, location, and whatnot. You have me on Skype, start negotiating.))

((First of all, you are not required to accept the warclaim. Either roll with it, or lose your land. If you attempt to deny it, you're already putting a bad image on you and your Malinor playerbase, when your reputation is already bad as it is.

 

Second of all, your attitude is uncalled for. And let's be blunt, aggressive IC into OOC is the very reason for Malinor's bad reputation. You are a nation leader, how about you set an OOC example for your players? Take it in RP without resorting to unnecessary bitching.

 

Kalameet had this land for months, do not accuse him or anyone else for getting GM help. The houses were built by hand. Your comments are very uncalled for.

 

))