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I don't see that as valid reasoning, it's a fallacy to assume that because A cybers that B C D and E will all cyber because they are in a brothel

Brothels being ban hubs isn't a logical deduction, it's a repeated empirical observation.

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The issue server rules face on censoring are the same that movies do. They have to be somewhat ambiguous to keep open the possibilities for things that fly close to the line. However with movies they are censored before they are released, wheras you do not have such control. So I would like to say that gratuitous violence would be anything that involves the insides of a person. So you punch someone and there's bone crunching, that's all good for PG-13. But you slice someone and their stomach ruptures leaking stomach acids onto their other organs, that isn't.

 

For violence: when it involves the insides of someone or interacting with body parts that have been removed from the whole (or anything post-mortem which should go without saying) the less detailed you are the safer you'll be.

For sexual things: Once you've gone inside of clothing and are talking about any places that are usually covered by underwear you should surrender all your details. And if you are inside of clothing you should watch out for breaking server policy anyway.

 

 

EDIT: according to the Motion Picture Association of America...

The violence in a G-rated film must be cartoonish in nature and/or minimal in quantity. If the violence is little more than minimal, it requires a PG rating. If the violence is stronger than mild, it requires a PG-13 rating. If the violence is too rough and persistent, it requires an R rating.

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Exactly as Falkor says above.

Because if what you say is true, Elindor.
Then there is a massive ban list awaiting..
And every. single. psychopath should be removed if so.

So I do have the feeling that that statement of yours is quite incorrect.
Considering that well.. there would be.. near to no true evil anymore then.

So yes please a VERY clear example if possible..

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Exactly as Falkor says above.

Because if what you say is true, Elindor.

Then there is a massive ban list awaiting..

And every. single. psychopath should be removed if so.

So I do have the feeling that that statement of yours is quite incorrect.

Considering that well.. there would be.. near to no true evil anymore then.

So yes please a VERY clear example if possible..

Its not to say things can't be done. But once you've cut someone open you should know your audience and ensure that all within ear shot are of maturity and willing to ramp it up to an R rating by asking them. Otherwise all explanations should be kept "cartoony" as the Motion Picture Association says. So you just take out the stomach and pour gunpowder in it, lighting the fuse and plugging fingers in your ears. You can get the same ideas across without having to delve into grotesque details.

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That is what I in general already do, Elindor.

The real question at hand is if it will be scouted just as Cybering was done.
Will they search for gory words and if you used them will they report you.
That is what I am afraid off, not the public.

I always ask age and if they wish to delve into it.

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Exactly as Falkor says above.

Because if what you say is true, Elindor.

Then there is a massive ban list awaiting..

And every. single. psychopath should be removed if so.

So I do have the feeling that that statement of yours is quite incorrect.

Considering that well.. there would be.. near to no true evil anymore then.

So yes please a VERY clear example if possible..

On the old thread it was described as gratutious gore. Given the majority of server psychopaths don't get complaints I'd wager it's only when you go completely over the top and are gory for the sake of being gory. Generally if you don't go further than you need to you'll be fine.

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I honestly do not believe it is against the law in the United States for minors to view graphic material on the internet unless it is pornography. I really cannot find a law. ESRB ratings are not law, and they do not make ratings for online play.

 

Regardless of opinions on the subject, I think the true legal matter should really be looked into. 

 

 

EDIT: With more studies, laws in the United States that used ESRB ratings to decide who could buy video games were actually found to be unconstitutional. Stores only follow the codes out of courtesy, and are not forced to by law.

 '948.11 Exposing a child to harmful material or harmful descriptions or narrations, Class I Felony. 

948.11(1)(ag) 

(ag) "Harmful description or narrative account" means any explicit and detailed description or narrative account of sexual excitement, sexually explicit conduct, sadomasochistic abuse, physical torture or brutality that, taken as a whole, is harmful to children.'

 

This is according to Wisconsin's law I believe.

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On the old thread it was described as gratutious gore. Given the majority of server psychopaths don't get complaints I'd wager it's only when you go completely over the top and are gory for the sake of being gory. Generally if you don't go further than you need to you'll be fine.

 

Fine with me ! :)

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I don't think we need to make a list of all the little gore-y things you can and can't do. 

 

Imagine you have a 13 year old kid, What would you want them to image as they role play? What would you want them to read or be around? 

 

LoTC tries to be a place where everyone can RP, The truth is we can't be that. We have boundaries for the protection of the server AND for the protection of our players. If you don't agree with them thats fine, follow them or find the door.

 

Its the harsh truth in this, If you NEED to be cybering or really sexual to enjoy your RP... This isn't the server for you. If you need to be overly descriptive when killing and torturing people to enjoy your RP... This isn't the server for you. 

 

Now I'm not saying leave the server, Im saying tone it down or do it on skype. We don't care if you like these things, liking them doesn't make you a bad person... the human mind is a strange beast... but they don't belong here, on this server. 

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I actually have a cannibal character who has great potential to be gory. Yet, I never emote this out. I would much rather *FTB* in a violent way. It takes place a few hours later with me polishing the bones and displaying them, or I do as I please. If at any point, you find yourself cringing, smiling, or in the case of cybering, feel slightly...well you know....you've gone too far. It's a game, would you play this in front of your role models or family? No? Then why would you do it here?

 

Just take it easy, don't be uncomfortable just to be that way.

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Well when a post like this is needed for basic rules, no not even rules just common sense and respect for others. That everyone already knows maybe something bigger need to be done about the community as a whole than just a post as a "reminder". Now that we have this out what about trying to deal with the poor attitude that has driven people away from lotc. ON both the server and forums its hard to find a single topic now with out harassment towards one player or group

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