[Feedback] Death Watch / 'exile' / Kill On Sight

[Hanrahan 2983]

Don't want to get hunted down and killed?

 

Don't stab a man in the face because you refuse to pay a 50 Minas fine. Hoollleee ****. Most of you 'I'm banned from all city waaah' types are banned BECAUSE YER BLOODY PSYCHOPATHS!

 

I mean, for a good long period of about 7 months, if you were Adunian, you couldn't show your face almost anywhere. Know what we did instead of complaining? We carved out a life for ourselves in a place no one would find us. And it worked. (Until Axl moved us for the 467th time, but that's a different story.) The world is surprisingly large. Meet at CT, gawd.

[Samson Option 9652]

 

Don't want to get hunted down and killed?

 

Don't stab a man in the face because you refuse to pay a 50 Minas fine. Hoollleee ****. Most of you 'I'm banned from all city waaah' types are banned BECAUSE YER BLOODY PSYCHOPATHS!

 

I mean, for a good long period of about 7 months, if you were Adunian, you couldn't show your face almost anywhere. Know what we did instead of complaining? We carved out a life for ourselves in a place no one would find us. And it worked. (Until Axl moved us for the 467th time, but that's a different story.) The world is surprisingly large. Meet at CT, gawd.

 

There is a reason that the incredulously daft and dubious psychopaths don't RP at the Cloud Temple. You can't do your evil and odd-ball deeds.

[Hanrahan 2983]

There is a reason that the incredulously daft and dubious psychopaths don't RP at the Cloud Temple. You can't do your evil and odd-ball deeds.

I suppose that's true... Gotta drink the blood of at least 20 corrupt oren guards a day, or else you'll get Iron deficient!

[MamaBearJade 2090]

If I am going to be used as an example, get it right.

 

Z'ress's only "crime" was not even that bad as /oren/ even took in the child at one point.

 

Z'ress was not evil, did nothing wrong (apart have spats with Willow of Leanniel)

 

All she did was have a child born of taint, and anyone who has interacted with said child /liked/ her. It is no different than how the white rose reacted to Kaila Hightower's birth. in their eyes Kaila was the exact same as a scourge born. Why? because she was different. She was half darkie.

 

But this raises the issue as to being deprived of roleplay because people want to leave you as a kill on sight.

 

Those of us who did /LITTLE/ to deserve this punishment, are being punished EXTENSIVELY.

 

I am not playing a villainous character. Zress is NOT an evil person. She was a respected Council Member of Leanniel. She fought for her clans and friends. She did everything /right/ whether she believed in them or not.

 

 

So before you say "well you did something terrible in rp so you have to take the conciquences" look above. Even if Zress didnt have a scourge born, and say, had a half OREN PRINCE (*cough Kaelys/Kaila cough*) they would still be the same.

 

 

Why do I like the white rose better than what I am going through? Because even though they hunted my character consistantly, they didnt try to BAN me from every nation.

 

/endrant

[Samson Option 9652]

If I am going to be used as an example, get it right.

 

Z'ress's only "crime" was not even that bad as /oren/ even took in the child at one point.

 

Z'ress was not evil, did nothing wrong (apart have spats with Willow of Leanniel)

 

All she did was have a child born of taint, and anyone who has interacted with said child /liked/ her. It is no different than how the white rose reacted to Kaila Hightower's birth. in their eyes Kaila was the exact same as a scourge born. Why? because she was different. She was half darkie.

 

But this raises the issue as to being deprived of roleplay because people want to leave you as a kill on sight.

 

Those of us who did /LITTLE/ to deserve this punishment, are being punished EXTENSIVELY.

 

I am not playing a villainous character. Zress is NOT an evil person. She was a respected Council Member of Leanniel. She fought for her clans and friends. She did everything /right/ whether she believed in them or not.

 

 

So before you say "well you did something terrible in rp so you have to take the conciquences" look above. Even if Zress didnt have a scourge born, and say, had a half OREN PRINCE (*cough Kaelys/Kaila cough*) they would still be the same.

 

 

Why do I like the white rose better than what I am going through? Because even though they hunted my character consistantly, they didnt try to BAN me from every nation.

 

/endrant

You do not seem to realize the gravitas of having a Scourge-born. I actually understand why people are playing their characters as horridly shocked at the sight. You are attempting to dress something that has been increasingly foreboding and sinister in frill and lace. Doesn't work honestly, especially when the Scourge has preyed upon the superstitions of folks - folks fear the Scourge-born as devils trying to throw people off from the inside.

[MamaBearJade 2090]

You do not seem to realize the gravitas of having a Scourge-born. I actually understand why people are playing their characters as horridly shocked at the sight. You are attempting to dress something that has been increasingly foreboding and sinister in frill and lace. Doesn't work honestly, especially when the Scourge has preyed upon the superstitions of folks - folks fear the Scourge-born as devils trying to throw people off from the inside.

Again, I can understand some of this. But the fact goes, other than /that/ I have not done ANYTHING that I was charged for.

Murder - Zress never murdered anyone (except 1 but that was comepletely secluded and would be META to know)

Handing over Leanniel to the Scourge - Ummm, I believe you had me captured Gaius.

Aiding the Scourge - Last I checked, I hated scourge and tried to kill Elad's scourge, i tried to be nice to them but that never worked out

Having a Scourge - Again admitted to that, which is fine. But does this SINGLE thing permit them to have me a KILL ON SIGHT in every dang nation?

My beef was I am being punished over falsified crimes. Even having the scourge born doesnt warrent it. Oren was fine with Dhaun'che. Leanniel and Conclave loved her. But...

Why is Z'ress, a character who has dont LITTLE wrong in her life, being punished EXTENSIVELY?

If I wanted a villainous char, I would play one. This issue doesnt just affect my roleplay. But also my friends. I am HOPING something can be done about their stupid "kill on sight" consistantly rule. Knowing Z'ress would be revived by monks is metagaming. Z'ress went in willing to die to save her family. What did she get? No trial. No chance of EVER being able to redeem herself. She loses EVERYTHING because of it.

I busted my butt to make a char that would live up to her name, instead, I get thrown a curve ball all because she made 1 mistake in her life. She got tainted and had a scourge born. A complete fluke that created new rp not just for me, but for other people.

[PtahWithin 1320]

Jade, is it not possible to hide your identity?

[Cjmate 1270]

You do not seem to realize the gravitas of having a Scourge-born. I actually understand why people are playing their characters as horridly shocked at the sight. You are attempting to dress something that has been increasingly foreboding and sinister in frill and lace. Doesn't work honestly, especially when the Scourge has preyed upon the superstitions of folks - folks fear the Scourge-born as devils trying to throw people off from the inside.

I believe that people have every right to respond to Z'ress in a negative way rply; however, I think there are certain ooc issues that spring up. When the entire world dislikes you, you cannot roleplay anywhere.

 

I do not think that automatic kill on sight is fair in her case because it detracts from the entirety of her roleplay, especially when she has not committed any crime herself. Z'ress icly dislikes, or at least has issues accepting, her children.

 

She has kill on sight with both Oren and Conclave, which means she can only roleplay normally in the spawn area. That is a bit overkill. She has been killed multiple times, and it eventually becomes the point where you are 'forced' to pk your character because it is aggravating. 

 

I don't want it to be an ooc issue, but I think people should strive to make fun, not roleplay.

[Samson Option 9652]

I believe that people have every right to respond to Z'ress in a negative way rply; however, I think there are certain ooc issues that spring up. When the entire world dislikes you, you cannot roleplay anywhere.

 

I do not think that automatic kill on sight is fair in her case because it detracts from the entirety of her roleplay, especially when she has not committed any crime herself. Z'ress icly dislikes, or at least has issues accepting, her children.

 

She has kill on sight with both Oren and Conclave, which means she can only roleplay normally in the spawn area. That is a bit overkill. She has been killed multiple times, and it eventually becomes the point where you are 'forced' to pk your character because it is aggravating. 

 

I don't want it to be an ooc issue, but I think people should strive to make fun, not roleplay.

You forgot the Dwarves. You forgot the Orcs. You forgot even considering joining up with the big bad guys whom you had a child on behalf of?

Hell, I played an equally hated elf during the White Rose period where I became a guerrilla fighter and got as far as assassinating one of their leaders. Instead of looking at it from the perspective of "oh my, please leave me be". Get down and dirty, become a tiger in the jungle or at least try to disguise. I also played a libertine bandit that assassinated Kings of Oren, Arcane Delvers, and etc. and got the same treatment roughly [i dont want to quantify it and turn this into a pissing match]. I played a wanted man and got smart and outwitted the f*ck out of folks.

[SodaiKamikaze 652]

 

She has kill on sight with both Oren and Conclave, which means she can only roleplay normally in the spawn area. That is a bit overkill. She has been killed multiple times, and it eventually becomes the point where you are 'forced' to pk your character because it is aggravating. 

 

 

Why does everyone seem to be ignoring the existance of Kal'Ithrun.

[MamaBearJade 2090]

Why does everyone seem to be ignoring the existance of Kal'Ithrun.

Bad memories....baaaaad memories...

And there is some issue with the dwarves thanks to another OOC issue. Not getting into that one.

And the orcs, well....i dont fancy playing their little slave right at the moment. (kinda their slave on 2 chars now XD)

[Samson Option 9652]

Bad memories....baaaaad memories...

And there is some issue with the dwarves thanks to another OOC issue. Not getting into that one.

And the orcs, well....i dont fancy playing their little slave right at the moment. (kinda their slave on 2 chars now XD)

I am sure that Zezimus is mature enough to help you out with that "issue".

 

You forgot my third suggested group.

[Lago 2572]

All she did was have a child born of taint

 

Oren and the Conclave lie at the borders of the North.

Who knows how many countless soldiers have died fighting these frosted demons that slaughter them like insects? How many have watched their friends die impaled like dartboards on the frosted spears of the Harbingers, how many hopes, dreams, homes and children have gone up in the caustic flames of Drakaarfire? How many bodies lie face down in the soil of Lenfarthing and the northern snows? How many people have been struck down by the charred bones of their own siblings? Imagine, for a moment, the horror of fighting the Scourge, and imagine the hatred held by the northern kingdoms hold deep in their hearts for their demonic enemies. Imagine the hatred, and imagine the fear.

Someone then gives birth to one.

To the Conclave and Oren, this Z'ress is a mother of demons. One of them.

The nations with KOS exile warrants on Z'ress aren't singling you out as part of an OOC vendetta.

They're staying in character.

[Neri 3590]

Lago sums up my thoughts perfectly well. Just because you're blazé about being literally the wife of the devil and the bearer of his children doesn't mean others will be too.

 

Same reason why I dislike IC'ly seeing scourge in the Sanctuary, it'd be like Lucifer socializing inside the Vatican.

[John Ivory 4546]

Bad memories....baaaaad memories...

And there is some issue with the dwarves thanks to another OOC issue. Not getting into that one.

And the orcs, well....i dont fancy playing their little slave right at the moment. (kinda their slave on 2 chars now XD)

If you have both in-character and out-of-character issues with all four of the nations, I cannot help but disagree that this is the fault of the nations and not yourself.

My men and I, including all four of the nations in Anthos, have fought for hours (in total) now the Black Scourge, a group that you have decided to align yourself with after having Z'ress tainted and having a Scourge-born. You claim that at heart Z'ress means no harm and that she is not inherently evil and a true Black Scourge, but I will present to you this.

Are the Black Scourge objectively evil? Yes.

Are the Black Scourge kill-on-sight in virtually every nation? Yes.

Are Harbingers kill-on-sight in virtually every nation? Yes.

Are cultists kill-on-sight in virtually every nation? Yes.

Are servants of Setherien kill-on-sight in virtually every nation? Yes.

Your character Z'ress is no different than any other character which aligns themselves to Setherien. I understand that in fact Z'ress might not be chaotically evil, but she has chosen her alignment and she will feel the punishment for doing so. Do not blame this the fault of the denizens of Anthos, for the fault lies on yourself.