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The Inventory Fallout - Friday April 1st

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22 minutes ago, Shalashask said:

If you are taking full responsibility for this don't you think you should be banned as well? Or at least removed from the GM team for your incompetence? 

Cut this **** out. Things happen, it was also bad coding from what I can tell. He came out and he has accepted the responsibility for his actions and from what I can tell, he's on the ball with this. People acting like white middle aged soccer moms demanding to talk to someones manager. A staff position is basically a customer service position and the staff is only human. Treat people how you would want to be treated, so if you want to make mistake and have someone crawl up your ass and make a home for a nuclear family of four and their dog, then go right ahead.

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24 minutes ago, Jaeden said:

It's not entirely his fault. You can also fault his superiors for not addressing all commands when he's added (Which is silly), and even the devs for not removing / editing the command.
But we don't, because that's silly.
He made a mistake, he's admitted, he'll receive immense public backlash. Psure that's enough punishment in itself, to be honest.

I just think it's bent that when GM's make huge errors they can just come on the forums and make some feigned apology. He says he is taking full responsibility for it yet someone else is being banned.
It is very easy to come out and own up to something when someone else is taking the fall for you.

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1 minute ago, Shalashask said:

I just think it's bent that when GM's make huge errors they can just come on the forums and make some feigned apology. He says he is taking full responsibility for it yet someone else is being banned.

I believe you don't think you appreciate the whole situation here. The banned party did this out of malice, the GM here had no idea that the code would cause this, it was an accident. I don't know why you can't see this.

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3 minutes ago, Shalashask said:

I just think it's bent that when GM's make huge errors they can just come on the forums and make some feigned apology. He says he is taking full responsibility for it yet someone else is being banned.

I mean, would you prefer the individual who has purposefully went out of their way, to attempt to harm the server banned? Or the individual who I can say right now, devotes the vast majority of his day attempting to make this server better for everyone. Consider the work that's been done on the Wiki, amongst other things. Personaly I think it'd be a lapse of judgment, and an utter waste.

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Shalashask he made a mistake, stop prancing about on a high horse like it's some massive personal deal. As much as I take the piss of tommo here it's an accident and nobody should be punished for one error.

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I hope this isn't swept under the rug as "It was an honest mistake". Some punishment has to derive, or it will set a very, very very bad precedent.

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38 minutes ago, Shalashask said:

If you are taking full responsibility for this don't you think you should be banned as well? Or at least removed from the GM team for your incompetence? 

It's actually because he's technically over competent, or rather over confident. 

 

Player shouldn't be banned for this (but it's priceflash who is already banned) if the Gm isn't taking any fall, but that's not what's happening.

 

This type of command is not one that anyone should even have access to. It was a mistake that no one in their right mind will pvrposefully make. Punishing people because a button was accidentally pressed serves absolutely no pvrpose. We don't exist as a server to be some arbiter of virtue and sin that passes judgement on mortal souls. Vindictive bans are pointless.

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2 minutes ago, Cʜᴀᴏᴛɪᴋᴀʟ said:

I hope this isn't swept under the rug as "It was an honest mistake". Some punishment has to derive, or it will set a very, very very bad precedent.

Punishment was the trickster party (the player who cheated Tahmas into using the command) is banned. Tahmas is deeply sorry, and its clear by a mile he means no harm, since you know. One of the main contributors to a reasonable size of the OOC content provided to us (WIKI)

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5 minutes ago, Cʜᴀᴏᴛɪᴋᴀʟ said:

I hope this isn't swept under the rug as "It was an honest mistake". Some punishment has to derive, or it will set a very, very very bad precedent.

Not every accident or incident requires punishment. No one was hurt, pixels were lost, people are being compensated. Anyone who ever has had managerial experience realizes that every mistake made doesn't require a punishment and it doesn't set some bad precedent. It shows that we're all aware we're human and that we all make mistakes. To all the people saying that Tahmas should be banned as well, you all have no concept of how to run an organization and I question your warped moralities on the issue. I have made my stance known though and I would consider it a failing on the part of the staff if Tahmas was banned or removed. People in training make mistakes.

 

I hope all of you calling for his head can take a moment and reflect on this and consider what it would be like for you to be in this position and I pray that you never are in an environment where people want your blood. Grow up quickly, kids, the real world is right around the corner.

 

 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Equinox said:

Punishment was the trickster party (the player who cheated Tahmas into using the command) is banned. Tahmas is deeply sorry, and its clear by a mile he means no harm, since you know. One of the main contributors to a reasonable size of the OOC content provided to us (WIKI)

Tahmas did not write the entire Wiki, wtf are you on about. He merely organized it, as did many other GMs, one who was banned for also abusing a command. Tahmas' credibility is shattered in my opinion. And there has to be a punishment derived so he works his way up, either him to go back to wiki team and reapply for trial in a few months, or another form of equal punishment. The deed is done, he wiped an entire server's inventory, a server which is very stiff in handing out items. Your endearing comments striving for sympathy strike no side with me. I'm looking at this from a cold standpoint, no bias whatsoever. And in this context, Tahmas has to be punished. Because of the horseshoe, the war was lost. Honest mistakes that carry over a bad precedent.

 

Oh, and "Pixels were lost" Yeah, and pixels are most of what this server's infrastructure is composed of. Of course noone died. But then if I no-rp someone, that person doesn't ACTUALLY get hurt, and they just got some pixels lost, no biggy so why is it bannable?

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What a s h i t April fools yoke. 

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Well, that's a lesson to all players that they should stick to roleplay standards and stop running around with full equ, as It would be impossible and unrealistic in most cases :troll:

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