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[Free The Hobbits 859]

15 minutes ago, Telanir said:

 

Keyword, time is the most precious resource in development and we need lots of it to do our job.

We've given you lots of time Telanir. You ignored the cries from us to remove nexus, you ignored us asking for balanced pvp, and you ignore us on every other issue because you're an obtuse person. If I thought I was as high and mighty as you did my parents would beat the **** out of me.

[Telanir 6975]

3 minutes ago, Birdnerdy said:

Honestly, removing posts never worked out well for anyone 

 

Neither did primitive rabble rousing.

 

Just now, Free The Hobbits said:

We've given you lots of time Telanir. You ignored the cries from us to remove nexus, you ignored us asking for balanced pvp, and you ignore us on every other issue because you're an obtuse person. If I thought I was as high and mighty as you did my parents would beat the **** out of me.

 

Yes I have heard the `cries to remove Nexus`, and I did not ignore them. When it suits your narrative you conveniently forget the fact that Obelisk exists and is in development in full force—this is not how you earn my support. It is rich hearing from you that I need to get off a high horse, do some research.

Ignored requests to balance PvP and any other issue?

Are you to suggest I haven't been responding to feedback regarding PvP the past few weeks, am I to assume you are being purposefully ignorant of my replies?

 

I have a deep respect for members of this community who take the time to make thoughtful criticisms, however I am nothing but disappointed when people like you ignore every response along with the progress I have made thus far.

[LatzMomo 2088]

Telanir, Baby :) Who's in charge of combat if you're not? why aren't they the one replying to the feedback on combat? I know lots of people think it's terrible, I'd even be willing to go out on a limb and say most people think it's awful.

 

To the person in charge of combat:

 

Why does it seem like our feedback isn't being listened to? Are you going to work to be more transparent?

 

why weren't the Orcs even approached regarding their massive nerf that was released with the 1.9 updates?

 

Do you even know what you're doing with combat? Do you think you're the best person suited for this task? and if no, would you be open to allowing someone else to head the development of combat?

 

Edit: Can we expect the removal of the luck mechanic any time soon? or swing timers? you say you can't ignore a minority of the server, yet you're actually ignoring a larger portion of the server by doing this, Telanir, you say you won't work on combat, but it's time someone stepped in and cleaned up this mess, I have full confidence that you'd be able to sit down with a few people from every nation and find out how to fix it, because I can name a few people who knows what need to be done, I'm tired of getting a new arrow every time we complain about how bad PvP is. . .

[Vamoose 265]

LOTC: Lackluster Operations of Tyrannical Charlatans

[Mj. 697]

I'm going to be brutally honest here, if you remove and hide a post by anyone that criticizes you, you're **** at what you do and should be removed. (Not necessarily directed towards telanir)

[Glasiconas 111]

39 minutes ago, Vamoose said:

LOTC: Lackluster Operations of Charlatans

Aren't you missing something there?

 

But seriously, admin tyranny has always been a thing, the only option is to wait it out, power trips get boring after a while. 

[Vamoose 265]

3 minutes ago, Trebuchery said:

Aren't you missing something there?

 

But seriously, admin tyranny has always been a thing, the only option is to wait it out, power trips get boring after a while. 

good shout

[Kanrath 190]

  Seeing a lot of attacks but very little reasoning or honest discussion. I'd suggest someone start removing attack posts because as they are I am really tempted to write a angry rant attacking every little thing wrong with the posts by so many players before mine but I am going to control myself for now and just say a few things.

 

  1: As a vampire demanding the sun hides itself so are those of you who demand the return to 1.8 pvp or the total nerfing of 1.9 pvp to something exactly like 1.8. You demand the impossible from a force beyond your control, my control and to a point the staff's control and yet you rage and demean when your demands are not met. Please stop, Telanir already explained why things are as they are with pvp and until things change with how the coding in 1.9 is chances are pvp will remain as it is with slight tweaks here and there.

 

  2: Pvpers are not the majority, in fact many pvpers are considerably inactive unless a war or battle is occurring ((thus the massive influx of people during battles who tend to all vanish within an hour or so after the battle)).

 

 3: Staff are not all knowing immortal untiring gods nor are they infallible, things happen beyond our knowledge or scope of vision and thus often we assume the worst and use this assumption to accuse the staff of something that could be all but a blatant lie. Please stop that and take the time to consider how you would want someone to address you and show them the same courtesy. Rant/flame bait posts deserve to be removed no matter how valid you assume they are nor how much you just want a reason to scream at staff to get your way. We are not infants unable to use our words, civil discussion is one of the greatest acts a human can partake in and yet so many of you have abandoned that art for the ways of the barbarian and thug.

 

So I ask, before you continue your attacks against Telanir and the staff think. After all we were all taught as kids ((At least I hope so)) to think before we speak or act, and a message on the forums is no different.

 

In short, don't be like Trump.

[Mj. 697]

17 minutes ago, Kanrath said:

  Seeing a lot of attacks but very little reasoning or honest discussion. I'd suggest someone start removing attack posts because as they are I am really tempted to write a angry rant attacking every little thing wrong with the posts by so many players before mine but I am going to control myself for now and just say a few things.

 

  1: As a vampire demanding the sun hides itself so are those of you who demand the return to 1.8 pvp or the total nerfing of 1.9 pvp to something exactly like 1.8. You demand the impossible from a force beyond your control, my control and to a point the staff's control and yet you rage and demean when your demands are not met. Please stop, Telanir already explained why things are as they are with pvp and until things change with how the coding in 1.9 is chances are pvp will remain as it is with slight tweaks here and there.

 

  2: Pvpers are not the majority, in fact many pvpers are considerably inactive unless a war or battle is occurring ((thus the massive influx of people during battles who tend to all vanish within an hour or so after the battle)).

 

 3: Staff are not all knowing immortal untiring gods nor are they infallible, things happen beyond our knowledge or scope of vision and thus often we assume the worst and use this assumption to accuse the staff of something that could be all but a blatant lie. Please stop that and take the time to consider how you would want someone to address you and show them the same courtesy. Rant/flame bait posts deserve to be removed no matter how valid you assume they are nor how much you just want a reason to scream at staff to get your way. We are not infants unable to use our words, civil discussion is one of the greatest acts a human can partake in and yet so many of you have abandoned that art for the ways of the barbarian and thug.

 

So I ask, before you continue your attacks against Telanir and the staff think. After all we were all taught as kids ((At least I hope so)) to think before we speak or act, and a message on the forums is no different.

 

In short, don't be like Trump. ((JK))

1. You are right, pvpers might not be the majority. But guess what, pvpers PVP DUMMY! If all the pvpers want 1.8 type pvp and we are the ones who use it, it makes sense for us to choose the pvp.

 

2. The only time the server is truly active and interesting (in my opinion and the opinion of MANY others) is during a time of war or some friction between major powers. Other than that, CT (and perhaps high elves?) are the only active areas for RP. Unless you also include groups of 2-3 ppl in the middle of the wilderness.

 

3. Many staff are known to be sneaky snakey people, and they have given themselves that reputation. On top of this, time and time again major staff powers have shown bias, abuse, and other activities that are not what staff should be doing. Due to this, they have gained this label of being people who can't be trusted, especially with power.

[Kanrath 190]

 

Mj. you can't just assume the people who use pvp the most are the only people with important opinions. We all know pvp effects everyone including those who would rather avoid it if they can but can't because their city got raided or such or others like me who enjoy it in moderation.

 

 As for attacking the staff with generalizations even though staff have changed dozens of times and defining them by the mistakes and decisions of a few is like saying all PVPers are a scourge on the server when in truth only small group tends to be. Or saying the server is only interesting when there is war based conflict or large scale conflicts between nations((because personal conflict, story based conflict and all other forms are invalid and boring simply because he assumes all people prefer to avoid them))

 

 

[Harri 4815]

4 minutes ago, Kanrath said:

 

The last two posts being perfect examples of what I was talking about when I said don't be Trump. Attack posts like Salvo's define what is wrong with a lot of forum topics people whine about being deleted and what is wrong with some people on this server/forum. And then we have Mj. declaring the world is flat because they assume the people who use pvp the most are the only people with important opinions, though we all know pvp effects everyone including those who would rather avoid it if they can but can't because their city got raided or such or others like me who enjoy it in moderation.

 

  Or attacking the staff with generalizations even though staff have changed dozens of times and defining them by the mistakes and decisions of a few is like saying all PVPers are a scourge on the server when in truth only small group tends to be. Or saying the server is only interesting when there is war based conflict or large scale conflicts between nations((because personal conflict, story based conflict and all other forms are invalid and boring simply because he assumes all people prefer to avoid them))

 

I can keep bringing folks to school if they keep asking for it, Order Up!

No need to answer toxicity/rude opinions with toxicity/rude opinions, just an FYI.

 

Also, the reason a lot of people prefer 1.8- PvP is because it is fundamentally a better functioning system that promotes more fun and fits the hectic, 100v100 warclaims that we have here on LoTC and no where else.

[BonesOfTheEarth 2252]

All this hate. TBH most people are overreacting about it- there are only two things that seem to piss people off. Those being lag and 1.9 pvp. Like wow.

 

 

Chill the **** out guys.

[Kanrath 190]

  True perhaps not the best reply I've done, but by far not nearly as toxic as most of the posts so far have been ((and I went back and fixed some of the toxicity because you were right)) Honestly though my issue with people wanting 1.8 combat back does not lie in the fact its 1.8 combat but instead int he fact we already had this discussion and it was explained why we won't be going back to 1.8 minecraft and why if we tried to change 1.9 combat to 1.8 style combat it would imbalance so much of minecraft.

 

  I used to pvp a lot more back in Ageis before I changed to my current character and personally I like 1.9 combat more because its more detailed and engaging then clicking ever was but yes 1.8 was easier to use in large 100v100 battles but that was because its like a car with 1 gear, so little to break or to go wrong compared to 1.9 which is like a standard car with 6 gears. Sure in those highly convoluted roads that don't let you go fast the one gear car may be easier to drive, but when you hit that straight road the 6 gear one is going to give you so much more enjoyment. And the truth is 100v100 war battles are a rare form of pvp on here, just look at war claims over the last 6 months, you get sudden bursts of them and then for the next few months you get 1 or none a month. Most pvp occurs in the smaller raid fights or 10v10 or so battles in which 1.9 combat can and should be more engaging. Unfortunately like all new things 1.9 is kind of like breaking in a new horse, there are issues to be fixed and changes to be made but I think if we give it time people will find it to be more engaging.

 

((its almost a pitty we cant just use a temp side server set to mc 1.8 for large scale war battles and then leave the main server 1.9. But that would cost a quite a bit due to the number of people accessing the server even if it was only like 500 blocks by 500 blocks map wise.))

[Cjmate 1270]

Cut the sophistry and get to the point. You lost me on the first paragraph. I'd respect you more if you'd just be like, "Yo guys, I hear what you're saying, here's what I want to do about it. What do you think?" You write like a politician, but you need to be a community leader. Don't distance yourself from the playerbase. I don't think many people care about long winded speeches, or want to read them. Simple direct actions are best.

[SomberSalad 63]

SNIP