Inside the GM & Admin Teams

[blago 1602]

Before I start off into this - Know I’ve never been completely innocent of anything here, and that I’ve had my faults in my tenure as GM Trainer where I was emotionally dull with my verdicts as I saw most situations in a stern way. Apologies to Chuckaboo and iMattyz as they’ve probably witnessed this in it’s most severity where following the coercing of Ioannis and some Admins in certain situations, I kept my foot down to remove players that were often discussed in the GM chats as unwanted, etc. I’d also like to apologize to the rest of the player base that may be disappointed by the GM Team as though I wrote systems and reforms, I didn’t push anything that really benefited the server in whole as what was and is really needed is staff transparency, as well as productive change for the server to be enjoyable. Anyways, here I’ll rant blindly about what I’ve been thinking about LoTC, about what I know.

To kick-off, the GM Team and Administration which is actually active and involved in the GM Chat is as clique based as you all already seem to know. The fault in it is that they live in this world where everything going on around the server is just some need for the community to be entertained, creating drama with no real case to be amused. It’s that viewpoint that plagues and causes the stagnation of the server the most, the; “They’re having a riot again just to be entertained.” Ignoring that the reason the community is upset is actually because of the failure delivered by those meant to actually manage and develop the server to be better. The worst part is that one of the people who spoke this the most was 501, an Admin. Though you’ve obviously seen that in faint example already, to my memory he brings much more depth into how typical and false all the many outcries were in his mind. Admins and GMs alike believe that all this chaos is usually just a fit because of their title, because of the LoTC culture. Don’t get it wrong though, and spare the few of them that actually see it for what it is unlike those whose egos feed them to live in their own idea so they don’t need to concern themselves with actually changing everything that is wrong - The lack of systems, and those which are broken. The corruption and abuse, bias, all things I’ll get into more which are the main reason that everything has been going downhill. Those in the biggest spots for power are so lazy and ill-driven, those that actually approve, and cause change. This obviously doesn’t apply to Flamboyant, but both Fireheart and 501, those designated to help the server are both people who live in the viewpoint I previously listed, those that aren’t creating the big change needed to reinterest the server while bettering it.

 

What upset me most, even being part of it, was the sub-style of bullying to players in the GM chat. Maybe it was because they felt they were all being attacked, maybe the power, but as many of the leaks exposed you can see yourself how it was just a gathering of bashing on players for getting upset, expressing opinions, etc. Private messages meant to be professional being used as some sort of starter for jokes. The players seemed to unwanted as they were unliked by some or most GMs, tolled on. Now part of me sees it as it just being mineman, something stupid that shouldn’t be taken seriously, but GMs and Admins are tasked to be overseeing a community of hundreds - Hundreds of people who come on to have a break, some to escape. How is that fair that those meant to make that experience better to actually be the ones worsening it as they target, insult, and sit in their incompetence of not fixing anything or causing change. So many GMs on the current Team, but so little who actually know the commands, who do the difficult tickets, so little of those who actually bother to fix the systems or construct them. But I suppose the quota system is good, right? Just continue to allow GMs take simple tickets from their friend while keeping their powers to feed their boastful ego.

I can’t even get started with how corrupt, and two-faced the Team is. Fireheart for example, what happened to everything you said about Murlocs? I mean, those opinions would make me think he wouldn’t ever become a GM Manager, which by the way is basically reversing the progress the GM Team had made. People like 501 ‘leaking’ chats to those applying for GM, acting like he supported them while in clear logs of the GM Trainer chat, he was the very person pushing for them to not get it. What sort of manipulation is that, what’s the goal even? The most morally breaking thing about being on the Team is just the general behaviour in this area - Not only was it GMs basically talking to players and offering help while turning to their fellow GMs and laughing, providing nothing as they would also just keep deferring player GM to GM. Which was a meme by the way -  I apologize to every player who really needed help but was denied by those actually meant to help them, having a goof as they would just keep directing them to another GM leaving them with nothing. It’s all a political mineman game, the fact I had to find that someone I thought was a good friend, Ioannis, actually have said in the GM Trainer chat very awful things about me before I was a Trainer was a bit soul breaking. The same with Fireheart logs, though that was a bit more expected considering what I’ve heard him say about fellow GMs, and players.

 

Either way, back to point. You get a smile from a GM, though stern and fake which is usually obvious, and as they turn it’s only to spend the rest of their time actually avoiding helping you, most holding up this fake personality that they’re productive and ready to serve you like Mr.Handy, but genuinely just won’t do anything and hope in time it’s forgotten. The emotional drama isn’t relevant though, what I find more concerning is the abuse and corruption that consumes the higher-staff. One of the things that actually makes me feel guilty is having been part of both Admins and Moderators focusing on specific players they’ve seen as unwanted on the server. One that’s most famous would be iMattyz, who I can’t even count the number of times has been spat on in the GM chat while refused an unbiased ear to listen to his side of whatever story. There’s situations where a GM does a false ban on accident, but it’ll likely never come down as not only is evidence rarely checked into, it’s held down to ensure the Teams don’t look at fault. Though there’s plenty more, I’ve not enough time to type of every situation I remember. One of the situations that made me most guilty was when I was part of a player’s permaban which clearly should’ve been just a warning for a skin - When I asked two Admins to look into it, one of the Admins who were even part of the targeting, not oddly enough the request was ignored or just simply pushed over. To add, there’s also all those who applied and were denied because of personal relations. DsDevil for example, slandered out of trial when I remember him close to being accepted. All the others. You may think it’d make sense for their competency and promise to be in play, but it really isn’t. If you’ve ever flaunted any dissent to the GMs and they took it personally, you likely will never make it on as a Trainer or Manager has a big play on you being accepted. As someone who was among them, most of them take it to heart.

So while summing just a random bundle of opinions, the main focus here is that I’d like to bring light to some concern on the two teams important to LoTC. Obviously not all GMs or Admins are bad, though it’s a majority plagued by this insensitive, lazy, ego-filled personality blend. Admins who told me after revealing evidence of pedophilia that you can’t trust girls, which if anyone is curious can feel free to request the logs on my discord. Those that forced me to be their authoritative runman for their corruptive shingles. You have these Admins sitting in high places but also being the least productive, not concerned with the general wants of the server, but their own as they get to reel in the attention of the position. Don’t get me wrong, I know it’s silly to complain about this all, but I’m invested in the community as this is where a good chunk of very beautiful souls I’ve connected with are - This is a place I’d like to be best for them, and for them to be fully aware. You have moderators living in a meme where they couldn’t be doing anything wrong, having this blind opinion that any single outcry is just typical lotc nature, being insensitive to everyone being bullied or preyed upon, even by their fellow GMs. As those in charge to moderate a community mostly of children, especially so large, I think it’s important that it’s kept to them being competent, and serious. Where competence itself is needed is that this sticking to the quota needs to be pushed higher because no GM is going to get better if they get by the brim of the needed ticket percentage. More than just one moderator should be concerned about creating reforms to all the unfinished, broken systems. Sensitivity and serious morals need to be brought into play, all this bias causing them to target and protect those that are literal criminals as well needs to be brought to attention and controlled.

I was asked to write and post this, there’s not much of a main directive aside from just how there’s a lot of bad going on. I felt it was needed that someone actually involved in it gives a faint glimpse, though this is only a quarter of it all. There’s plenty of logs I have saved, but to avoid being banned for whatever silly reason, I’ll just ask that anyone intrigued come talk to me in my PMs. Stay groovy.

[L0rdLawyer 2272]

I'm not in a clique... I take offense to this. Anyways I'll read up on all this later and make a post tonight.

[luv 3469]

F E E D B A C K N O T E D. 

[_Elrith_ 4525]

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Edit: Third. Will respond later.

[blago 1602]

2 minutes ago, Elrith said:

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[Guest]

The server is an absolutely pathetic state and the admins are delusional and have been quoted and recorded over the past few days saying how much of angood state the server is in - no progress will be made whatsoever while the admins remain incharge because they don’t see the root of the issue because they’re delusional and blind to all of the issues and would rather contest and whine than actually agree and try to resolve.

 

Eventually LOTC will be dethroned by another server because it’s getting to the point the Admins are pushing the playerbase too far.

[WuHanXianShi14 0]

Haha the peasant rabble is at it again, waving their pitchforks and torches at us because that's how they get their rocks off! How quaint.

[Wendigo 786]

Sigh

[User 366]

4 minutes ago, Dewper said:

The server is an absolutely pathetic state and the admins are delusional and have been quoted and recorded over the past few days saying how much of angood state the server is in - no progress will be made whatsoever while the admins remain incharge because they don’t see the root of the issue because they’re delusional and blind to all of the issues and would rather contest and whine than actually agree and try to resolve.

 

Eventually LOTC will be dethroned by another server because it’s getting to the point the Admins are pushing the playerbase too far.

Honestly it doesn't help that there's two dudes with ultimate authority just sitting there above everything @Telanir @Tythus. Severs usually only progress when the owner is actually passionate about what's going on within the community.

[Sky 0]

Isn't it sad that I know several members of staff who literally say "I would like to post on that thread, but I don't want to be removed from the team.", really makes you think...

[Man of Respect 5471]

You know, I think that we should have a community meeting to address all the issues. I've propposed this multiple times to multiple staff, but...

 

Like, have two meetings, one at maybe tomorrow and then another one three days from that day to say all the progress that has been made on the subject. I feel like that if you can use your voice to talk to people, you can literally look into their eyes, even if its on the internet. There are a lot of things we don't want to hear, but we will need to listen, and how we react depends on how it turns out or not. 

 

Comunity meeting when? You don't need ADMIN or GM support for this, break the ******* system and take actions without permission for something so simple. A thread that gathers feedback won't get anywhere.

[Wendigo 786]

It's really a shame because not everyone is bad on these teams, it's just a few bad apples...

[blago 1602]

1 minute ago, Wendigo said:

It's really a shame because not everyone is bad on these teams, it's just a few bad apples...

Though those apples tend to be the ones holding on to the higher management. That's why I did make sure to specify that not every one of them are bad, but there is very little leeway to bring a better change when the effort leaves with you being quickly put out since it's kind of hard to argue against authoritative positions. 

[Burnsy 437]

Hello again,
Just a reminder to keep things civil.
Thank you. 

[Wendigo 786]

Just now, Blago said:

it's kind of hard to argue against authoritative positions. 

Exactly, I've known a lot of people through the years as I'm sure you have who have been afraid to speak up because they'll lose their position or worse.