Sky 0 Share Posted August 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, HolyTortoise said: I fail to understand why you are shocked people raid during meetings and events. People raid meetings to disrupt them, it may affect their nation, you may be their enemy. Would it not only make sense to disrupt diplomacy meetings between your enemies or military meetings? Except it's never during diplomatic meetings or military meetings, it's done during weddings and ceremonies, balls and festivals... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jondead 260 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Just now, Sky said: Except it's never during diplomatic meetings or military meetings, it's done during weddings and ceremonies, balls and festivals... Perhaps a rule can be added to stop this, if they don't have a good enough reason to disrupt the fesvivities? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyrunner 257 Share Posted August 28, 2018 55 minutes ago, grubgoth_wud said: did the vikings have a reason to raid english coasts ? did the scots have a reason to raid northumbria ? apart from for pillage and bloodshed ? If only the raiders actually used the reason of Pillaging for their raid. Most of the time it's the latter which wasn't the reason for the Viking Raids. The Vikings wanted to increase their wealth, so they would come with the threat of raiding as a way to sweeten any trade deal they could get, but if they didn't get their trade deal they would raid. Which if mirrored on the server would further RP and the dynamic nature of the RP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archbishop 1784 Share Posted August 28, 2018 42 minutes ago, Jondead said: Perhaps a rule can be added to stop this, if they don't have a good enough reason to disrupt the fesvivities? More rules to halt rp is not what we need on this server. If you have festivals or balls you get guards to operate the gate, if you don't bother ensuring there is good defences don't ***** when you get raided. Just because you're having a peaceful festival, doesn't mean everybody else who comes has to be peaceful. For example if people are at a peaceful festival they are more likely not to be armed to defend themselves, if they are your enemies it would make perfect sense. For example why would crusaders not raid the Dominion because they are 'having a peaceful festival', they would not. They would raid regardless, even more so perhaps. You shouldn't stop people rping and raiding because you want to have a 'peaceful' festival, if you want a peaceful festival or good event in your city ensure you have the guards to defend it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jondead 260 Share Posted August 28, 2018 9 minutes ago, HolyTortoise said: More rules to halt rp is not what we need on this server. If you have festivals or balls you get guards to operate the gate, if you don't bother ensuring there is good defences don't ***** when you get raided. Just because you're having a peaceful festival, doesn't mean everybody else who comes has to be peaceful. For example if people are at a peaceful festival they are more likely not to be armed to defend themselves, if they are your enemies it would make perfect sense. For example why would crusaders not raid the Dominion because they are 'having a peaceful festival', they would not. They would raid regardless, even more so perhaps. You shouldn't stop people rping and raiding because you want to have a 'peaceful' festival, if you want a peaceful festival or good event in your city ensure you have the guards to defend it. Very true, though I am mainly meaning PvP Goons who just raid for the lolz, like if people raid they need a good roleplay reason for it I agree, and can't agree more really, it is fun to see a festival raid. If done correctly, people who just raid for PvP reasons and drops a poor excuse for it like "I wanna kill this dude lolol", like come on man, you don't need to raid for that, just walk up with a consealed dagger and then stab them in the neck, you don't need to bring your goonies to join you, in a murdering ? but back to the point I agree, but I think a rule to make sure it is a good raid before it happens will have the chance to help Dynamic Roleplay somewhat. ❤️ sorry if you took some offence man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ada 150 Share Posted August 28, 2018 1 hour ago, grubgoth_wud said: did the vikings have a reason to raid english coasts ? did the scots have a reason to raid northumbria ? apart from for pillage and bloodshed ? Because they won, you think the Vikings would've returned back to the English coast if they were easily repelled back or just obliterated by the opposing force? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enlightenment 2300 Share Posted August 28, 2018 I've got a few problems with raiding 1. How restricted the raiding side is. 2. When the defending side is blatantly permitted to meta rally. If these two problems could be improved or fixed I'm sure enjoyable roleplay will and can be created from raids, even if the end result is PVP between both sides. Though I know at the end of the day it'll still likely just end up with the defending side whining OOCly as usual. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkee 7369 Share Posted August 28, 2018 just stop already lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky 0 Share Posted August 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Aeldrin said: just stop already lol Stop making suggestions to the community for ways to improve a system a lot of people enjoy? The OP isn't saying to stop raiding, just stating issues with it and wanting to come to ideas as to fix these things. A lot of people are simply looking at the title then making assumptions because the person posting is a dominion elf. Read the actual original post, there is nothing stating they want to disallow raids, nor is she even bringing up anything to restrict raids. Literally all is being stated is universal truths, that these things are issues with raids. Kneejerk reactions, and five word responses just come out as silly, and unproductive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novastral 582 Share Posted August 28, 2018 If you don't want to get raided then join a server that doesn't allow it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky 0 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Just now, Novastral said: If you don't want to get raided then join a server that doesn't allow it. If you don't want to role-play fight then join a server that doesn't support it. If you don't like slice-of-life role-play then join a server that doesn't have it. I could go on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Elrith_ 4525 Share Posted August 28, 2018 As a person who raids every once in a while for a varying assortment of reasons, I'm never going to raid a settlement during their peak hours with how current raid restrictions. The first point you made in your post is very flawed, the other two have solid ground. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterblessing 1800 Share Posted August 28, 2018 If you have justifiable evidence that these players are only raiding at these certain times to kill roleplay and personally target players, then make a player report on them. A lot of time on this server people complain about stuff like this but then do nothing to act on it. Secondly, though, raids are an essential part of what is keeping the server alive. It adds to roleplay and allows for character development. Although this is a roleplay server at it's roots, it is undeniable that we have part of the server who would prefer mechanics combat. We have to ensure that both communities are welcome on the server. Truth is, the roleplay-defaulters need the mechanics-defaulters as much as vice versa. I, as well as various other players in my close friend group migrated to LOTC after the previous roleplay server we were on closed down. The problem there was that this server too heavily favoured the roleplay defaulters and left the mechanics players in the dust. Aside from absolutely killing the server's numbers when the PvPers left, it also left the roleplayers with a sour taste in their mouths. Roleplaying wasn't as fun anymore if there was no combat or conflict to help heighten it. I wouldn't want this to be a repeat of the server I came from. PvPers have been restricted enough and been thrown several rule amendments that don't really mean anything in the grand scheme of things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducklingator 795 Share Posted August 28, 2018 ive been on this server for like two and a half years now and not once have i either helped raid a place or been in a place getting raided, and had fun in the process. and that just indicates that the current raiding system with passive-aggressive nonsense rules that force people to act a very specific way irp isn't working, and that the community itself is stupid and needs to be babyfed basic manners with a spoon because people wouldn't figure out that constantly harassing a playerbase with raids is, in fact, rude and meaningless but who cares about my opinion yknow. im an elf haha xd uwu Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamer124 339 Share Posted August 28, 2018 ok so let me break down your points: point 1.) you don’t like the time you’re getting raided? sucks to suck I guess. It’s anti dynamic roleplay to actually enforce raid time windows (lol) point 2.) you’re mad about toxicity and memes? the fact that shitty shitposts like “dominion shall soon fall” and whatnot offend you is saddening. Also: 4 hours ago, Pun said: Possibly the fact the raids currently are at ungodly hours Weren’t you just saying raids were occurring at peak times? Point 3.) I’m sorry you don’t like people’s reasons to raid. This is a moot concern. In short, this thread is pretty much useless and just another example of a carebear player not wanted their faction getting raided and whining about pvp in general, offering invalid solutions in regards to raiding. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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