πΎπππππππ Β Β 2451 Share Posted December 21, 2018 13 hours ago, Unwillingly said: So me and someone else were discussing the topic of racial buffs. YouΒ know, the thing that gives certain races buffs Β in PVP? With nexusΒ on Axios, elves did more damage with arrows, golems did 4 hearts of damage, orcs get some bloodlust thing yada yadaΒ yadaΒ all in PvP. Honestly as I see it, it would provide a great deal of balance between PvP and RP. Because lets be real, why would you RPly attack a golem that can do 4 hearts of damage if they call PVP? Same for every other race and ****.Β Iβ m genuinely curious and I wanna know what some people think about racial buffs.ο»Ώremember to like comment and subscruibeΒ Β Β I think the main reason racial buffβs never worked was with how they are set up and what itβs standards were of providing the buff. While many enjoyed the buff a lot loved to complain about it even if they were contradictory or in Orc buffβs case, they were whitewashes abusing the buff and then complaining that you could do so even considering they were doing it. Β I find a large problem with it had to do with itβs distribution. Any persona that is created an Orc is automatically given through the player-process and the same goes with every other buffed race. This creation process is the first thing you enter upon the server so the buff is provided to the newest of fresh-blood players to work with, which if you think about it is kind of an overkill. I have explained to several people though that I find that it could be possible to just replace Racial Buffs with the Magic Plugin to make things simpler and the buff more unique. I am most relative withΒ Orcs and Shamans so I will provide the example for their magic buff. Β Magic users of communities are more often the most devoted and veteran of the server to their specific community. A Farseer Shaman has the ability to provide a mass evokation upon the Spiritβs of Shamanic people. If a Farseer Shaman did a blessing it could provide a large group of people with strength and allow the Magic User to provide the buff instead of giving it to every individual player that makes the race. It could work similarly with other magic groups obviously in their own kindred way.Β Β ((I also find that it could solve a lot of problems between RP Combat Magic. The plugin was meant to put Magic on par with PVP, since itβs so easily powergamed it was actually meant to be avoided being used in RP combat.)) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PosidonX7 Β Β 269 Share Posted December 21, 2018 7 hours ago, SuperDuckyGamer said: but right now thereβs like, an actual boatload of naz folks who exist for no reason and i feel that giving pvpers any reason to wanna become a super pvp demon would be unwise to say the least Currently, all inferis applications have been put on hold. Β 5 hours ago, Suxals said: People will create characters of that race to get the buffs (Remember all the goons playing necrolytes?) A version of Necrolyte currently exists. It gives waterbreathing, but in turn has aΒ very slowΒ health regen. Edit: And I almost forgot to add that you have no saturation, but you dont have to eat either. Β 10 hours ago, Tofuus said: Name:Β Generic PvP Goon 434Race: OlogDescription: ((actually a human I just want the buff))Click for more... Pretty sure you should contact a GM if you see a persona like this, as it violates this server rule: βΒ§3.16Β Β Β Β Information on your persona card must match your character.β Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suxals Β Β 529 Share Posted December 21, 2018 6 minutes ago, PosidonX7 said: A version of Necrolyte currently exists. It gives waterbreathing, but in turn has aΒ very slowΒ health regen. Edit: And I almost forgot to add that you have no saturation, but you dont have to eat eitherο»Ώο»Ώ. I am aware, but back with nexus they had more health and speed buff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Β Β Share Posted December 21, 2018 Yes. Β I miss being a Spectre so I could literally decimate people with ease and kill 15 people despite having no skill with PvP. Reimplement racial buffs immediately, I want my Kenyan sprint back on my Dark Elf paladin. I demand these buffs to supplement my PvP with poorly constructed roleplay magic abilities now! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeatonUnbeaten Β Β 1103 Share Posted December 21, 2018 2 hours ago, Tox said: I think this quote alone shows that youβre on the wrong server. ok magic man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducklingator Β Β 795 Share Posted December 21, 2018 1 hour ago, PosidonX7 said: Currently, all inferis applications have been put on hold. one way or another pvpgoons.exe find a way to abuse the system when you implement racial buffs, I remember back when dark elves literally got speed II and I lost every single chase when any bandit who knew how to select βdark elfβ on race selection could pvp-bait then run you down effortlessly. thereβs exactly one foolproof way to get past that problem and thatβs just, NOT implementing racial buffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rukio Β Β 8924 Share Posted December 21, 2018 2 hours ago, PosidonX7 said: Pretty sure you should contact a GM if you see a persona like this, as it violates this server rule: βΒ§3.16Β Β Β Β Information on your persona card must match your character.β Jokes on you I just made my characters actually that race but still ran with my group. I.e. my snow elf in Norland last map. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PosidonX7 Β Β 269 Share Posted December 21, 2018 36 minutes ago, SuperDuckyGamer said: thereβs exactly one foolproof way to get past that problem and thatβs just, NOT implementing racial buffs IfΒ you know a way, then I suggest speaking it aloud. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harri Β Β 4815 Share Posted December 21, 2018 stop Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treshure Β Β 5817 Share Posted December 21, 2018 never resort to mechanics when you fail to compensate in roleplay. we neverΒ needed mechanical buffs to races and we never should get them again Β Β Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CombatRolePlay Β Β 1863 Share Posted December 22, 2018 But how will the Non-RPers beat strong races now ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlemishSupremacy Β Β 6115 Share Posted December 30, 2018 On 12/21/2018 at 4:47 PM, KeatonUnbeaten said: Literally, GMβs moderate so much already Iβm sure they can moderate players playing one race for the buff while RPβing another. You see, each race had its racial buff removed . . . except humans. Humans have a buff that isnβt mechanical, but social; everyone plays humans. Humans have by far the most numbers on the server, and with nothing to entice people to play orcs, dwarves, elves, golems, etc. like racial buffs those races are falling out of favour.Β If you need a mechanical buff to keep your race active, thereβs either something wrong with your race, or your community. Humans are active because they consistently remained active, and offer roleplay. Orcs didnβt go inactive because they lost their damage boost. They remained active long after it was removed, and youβre not going to tell me that the only thing keeping the orcs together was being able to eat expired food and that charge thing? The incentive to play a race should come from itβs interesting lore and friendly community, not from giving you an advantage in mineman clicking. Not to mention, they used to have a pvp buff in the form of a damage boost if theyβre in bigger numbers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zacho Β Β 2177 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Moved to The Great Library. It shall be sorted into the appropriate category shortly. Β If you feel this is a mistake, please contact myself or any FM and we'll restore it.Β Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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