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13 hours ago, Unwillingly said:

So me and someone else were discussing the topic of racial buffs. YouΒ know, the thing that gives certain races buffs Β in PVP? With nexusΒ on Axios, elves did more damage with arrows, golems did 4 hearts of damage, orcs get some bloodlust thing yada yadaΒ yadaΒ all in PvP.

Honestly as I see it, it would provide a great deal of balance between PvP and RP. Because lets be real, why would you RPly attack a golem that can do 4 hearts of damage if they call PVP? Same for every other race and ****.Β  I’ m genuinely curious and I wanna know what some people think about racial buffs.ο»Ώ

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I think the main reason racial buff’s never worked was with how they are set up and what it’s standards were of providing the buff. While many enjoyed the buff a lot loved to complain about it even if they were contradictory or in Orc buff’s case, they were whitewashes abusing the buff and then complaining that you could do so even considering they were doing it.

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I find a large problem with it had to do with it’s distribution. Any persona that is created an Orc is automatically given through the player-process and the same goes with every other buffed race. This creation process is the first thing you enter upon the server so the buff is provided to the newest of fresh-blood players to work with, which if you think about it is kind of an overkill. I have explained to several people though that I find that it could be possible to just replace Racial Buffs with the Magic Plugin to make things simpler and the buff more unique. I am most relative withΒ Orcs and Shamans so I will provide the example for their magic buff.

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Magic users of communities are more often the most devoted and veteran of the server to their specific community. A Farseer Shaman has the ability to provide a mass evokation upon the Spirit’s of Shamanic people. If a Farseer Shaman did a blessing it could provide a large group of people with strength and allow the Magic User to provide the buff instead of giving it to every individual player that makes the race. It could work similarly with other magic groups obviously in their own kindred way.Β 

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((I also find that it could solve a lot of problems between RP Combat Magic. The plugin was meant to put Magic on par with PVP, since it’s so easily powergamed it was actually meant to be avoided being used in RP combat.))

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7 hours ago, SuperDuckyGamer said:

but right now there’s like, an actual boatload of naz folks who exist for no reason and i feel that giving pvpers any reason to wanna become a super pvp demon would be unwise to say the least

Currently, all inferis applications have been put on hold.

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5 hours ago, Suxals said:

People will create characters of that race to get the buffs (Remember all the goons playing necrolytes?)

A version of Necrolyte currently exists. It gives waterbreathing, but in turn has aΒ very slowΒ health regen.

Edit: And I almost forgot to add that you have no saturation, but you dont have to eat either.

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10 hours ago, Tofuus said:

Name:Β  Generic PvP Goon 434
Race: Olog
Description: ((actually a human I just want the buff))
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Pretty sure you should contact a GM if you see a persona like this, as it violates this server rule: β€œΒ§3.16Β Β Β Β  Information on your persona card must match your character.”

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6 minutes ago, PosidonX7 said:

A version of Necrolyte currently exists. It gives waterbreathing, but in turn has aΒ very slowΒ health regen.

Edit: And I almost forgot to add that you have no saturation, but you dont have to eat eitherο»Ώο»Ώ.

I am aware, but back with nexus they had more health and speed buff.

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Yes.

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I miss being a Spectre so I could literally decimate people with ease and kill 15 people despite having no skill with PvP. Reimplement racial buffs immediately, I want my Kenyan sprint back on my Dark Elf paladin. I demand these buffs to supplement my PvP with poorly constructed roleplay magic abilities now!

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2 hours ago, Tox said:

I think this quote alone shows that you’re on the wrong server.

ok magic man

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1 hour ago, PosidonX7 said:

Currently, all inferis applications have been put on hold.

one way or another pvpgoons.exe find a way to abuse the system when you implement racial buffs, I remember back when dark elves literally got speed II and I lost every single chase when any bandit who knew how to select β€œdark elf” on race selection could pvp-bait then run you down effortlessly. there’s exactly one foolproof way to get past that problem and that’s just, NOT implementing racial buffs

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2 hours ago, PosidonX7 said:

Pretty sure you should contact a GM if you see a persona like this, as it violates this server rule: β€œΒ§3.16Β Β Β Β  Information on your persona card must match your character.”

Jokes on you I just made my characters actually that race but still ran with my group.

I.e. my snow elf in Norland last map.

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36 minutes ago, SuperDuckyGamer said:

there’s exactly one foolproof way to get past that problem and that’s just, NOT implementing racial buffs

IfΒ you know a way, then I suggest speaking it aloud.

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never resort to mechanics when you fail to compensate in roleplay. we neverΒ needed mechanical buffs to races and we never should get them again

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On 12/21/2018 at 4:47 PM, KeatonUnbeaten said:

Literally, GM’s moderate so much already I’m sure they can moderate players playing one race for the buff while RP’ing another.

You see, each race had its racial buff removed . . . except humans. Humans have a buff that isn’t mechanical, but social; everyone plays humans. Humans have by far the most numbers on the server, and with nothing to entice people to play orcs, dwarves, elves, golems, etc. like racial buffs those races are falling out of favour.Β 

If you need a mechanical buff to keep your race active, there’s either something wrong with your race, or your community. Humans are active because they consistently remained active, and offer roleplay. Orcs didn’t go inactive because they lost their damage boost. They remained active long after it was removed, and you’re not going to tell me that the only thing keeping the orcs together was being able to eat expired food and that charge thing? The incentive to play a race should come from it’s interesting lore and friendly community, not from giving you an advantage in mineman clicking.
Not to mention, they used to have a pvp buff in the form of a damage boost if they’re in bigger numbers.

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Moved to The Great Library. It shall be sorted into the appropriate category shortly.

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If you feel this is a mistake, please contact myself or any FM and we'll restore it.Β 

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