Hold the leash tighter next time.

[Reece Nolan 639]

As you all can likely see, I just went on a huge rant in several discords regarding the unfairness of the current end of the map event. So if I’m going down, I’m taking those responsible with me. I came back to this server for god knows what reason, and I am constantly reminded why I left, seeing toxic actions taken by players and LOTC’s various teams. I’m not going to beat around the bush, so let’s get right into it. 

 

The Inferni event has been a big question mark for a lot of us, I can say that with confidence. Whether it be the fact that the guidelines for the event were written in the middle of the event, or the fact that those heading it seem to have a complete and utter disregard for the players participating in it. A bit of context as to what I mean, this picture right here https://image.prntscr.com/image/d7asQ2D9TDO9se-cETwpjw.png is the limit of the dwarven defenses, meaning nobody at that camp can go beyond the red border there. Now, there is an exception to this, that being the fleet that has been positioned outside the dwarven gate on the coast since the start of the event. I came home from my overnight shift at work to hear that an inactive landmass owned by goons was forked over to the ST for the event as seen in this image here 

Normally, this wouldn't be a problem, as the fleet is right there and can see them if they try to move out of their new land, I’m fine if they have land that is inactive, the goons shouldn't even have a say whether or not the ST get it anyways because they don’t play. Now our problem arises in the fact that I have been informed via VC that an elephant with the hammer of urguan WALKED RIGHT PAST OUR FLEET AND UP NEXT TO THE SKULL ignoring the entire fleet. This is further backed up if you simply observe that the ST spearheading this event have been playing CIV as of late, and while this may seem insignificant at first, you begin to realize that they are treating this as a turn based game of CIV, which is even further backed by the fact that every week the nations make their actions, and afterwards the demons do theirs, back and forth. LOTC is not a turn based game in case you weren’t aware. Anyone who plays this server would know that, it’s one of the first things you see upon launching the website even. LOTC is an RP server, people didn’t go to a game store and buy LOTC to play a turn based war simulator, they got on mineman and began to play  for free on an RP server.

To address this, upon joining the leadership chat in the Inferi Alliance discord, I scrolled up quite a ways to see if there were any bits of information that I would need in order to play the game that Dingo has laid out halfway into the event. (The logistics you can see here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BAdLi5p8DQ7_TKBKtzAP6s3DXmrh9xjoyLoyfTGevos/mobilebasic) 

This here is a blatant lie, these ships were formed prior to him writing the logistics above and have been there since the start of the event, and scrolling up quite a ways in leadership chat shows no signs of dingo ever asking anything about the dwarven fleet (unless he asked at the very start of the event, which even then would be strange because if something were that important you would want to keep pestering people until you get the answer so you can, y’know, properly lead an event.) As well as at the time, there would've been no need to consult dingo as he again, waited until halfway through the event to actually write the rules for the event.

Then there’s the whole “Mass PK if nobody participates in my event” thing that I’m not even going to dig into, that’s a whole other mess entirely.

 

To those who know me, I don’t take too kindly to being lied to, let alone in an attempt to discredit me. To this, I bring the title of this post. I ask that moderation and administration hold the leash a little tighter, as to not allow one of your own branches to needlessly anger/run off part of your own playerbase, things like this can be avoided with honesty and being accepting of criticism, or something as simple as asking for feedback before doing. In simpler terms, think before you do.

 

And it is not just me sharing in this frustration as I am sure dingo is plentifully aware of, as I spoke with him prior about people disregarding his event. Dingo is already VERY aware of the fact that people have been displeased with his event and his “Act first ask later” tactics, to which his response appears to have simply been “I will PK basically everyone that participated in this event” should they not do anything because they aren’t enjoying the event.

 

Simply put, the lesson to be learned here is to carefully plan out things like this. Large map ending events should not be made as they are being played out, nor should they be based off of the mechanics of a game with an entirely different set of mechanics. Things like these should be handled by people mature enough to take on such a task and have it ready from the get go. If you cannot handle the criticism and feedback of a community telling you they aren’t enjoying your event, chances are you shouldn’t be the one handling the event.

 

So this brings me to the last part. The consequence of ignoring your player base so that you can run a movie.
https://www.lordofthecraft.net/forums/topic/190137-im-tired/

I’m sure many of you have seen and known what this post is, and I reference it because I am leaving again. Clearly in my time apart from LOTC things have sadly gotten worse, and as much as I love the playerbase and the rich mechanics, the diversity and the potential to do so much, it is in those who turn the cogs of the server that I share my despair with. Is it simply too much to ask for a server that is not subject to the whims of those clearly not capable of fulfilling their position?

With that said, I am going to be of the first to leave because of this event, and I have no doubt there will be plenty of others that jump ship once they realize they are being forced to PK for an event they had zero control over.

 

Cy@

[Cheezzy_Garlik 502]

YO, i 100% second this, i think this is complete BS and i will say, i will not force pk my characters in this event, unless i deem it a good reason, but for somethin like this Nah homie. i aint doin that

Reece has done so much for UrgUAN, for this event line, he has spent HOURS of his time to make this event more fun and then someone went and screwed him over. if he is leaving then i am leaving too. this is utter bullshit. idc if yall ban me from this i am speakin my mind, and backin up my boy.

[ScreamingDingo 17473]

i just got done with a 50 rep thread I really don’t need to do another

[mateolog 1552]

1 minute ago, ScreamingDingo said:

i just got done with a 50 rep thread I really don’t need to do another

good for you? People are just letting out their grievances here. 

[JokerLow 1189]

cannot wait for demons to come and steal my goats

[Reece Nolan 639]

5 minutes ago, ScreamingDingo said:

i just got done with a 50 rep thread I really don’t need to do another

Shoulda thought about that while you were declaring you’d PK half the server if nobody participated. Yikes

[ScreamingDingo 17473]

Just now, Reece742 said:

Shoulda thought about that while you were declaring you’d PK half the server if nobody participated. Yikes

 

 

cough

 

[Gamma 591]

Hold the hammer tighter next time.

[Reece Nolan 639]

Doesnt matter if you change your mind, shouldnt have been declared in the first place. Half of the server still thinks thats a thing.
You do realize that once you kind of, tell the entire server you’re going to try and kill them, that tends to spread like wildfire. The entire thing can’t just be undone with a single ping in a discord with less than a tenth of the server in it.

[Reece Nolan 639]

4 minutes ago, Gamma said:

Hold the hammer tighter next time.

Dont know if you can hold it tighter than soulbound, but, go off

 

There was already a big thing that happened when ST forcibly took the hammer which was soulbound off of beamon so...

[HurferDurfer1 2607]

soulbound doesnt mean it cant be taken in rp soft head, soulbinding is for popping

[Nooblius 5820]

ah **** here we go again.

I’m gonna say that Urguan is immaculate of any guilt whatsoever as to why this happened, I mean from what I heard Joel says that our fleet was in the waters of aeg. There’s definitely a level of miscommunication here, idk who exactly that’s on.

There’s definitely a certain animosity between staff and players at this point, I think rooted in miscommunication, overly convoluted and complex systems just to participate, as well as the staff being a bit out of touch with how players feel, although I suppose that’s just another form of miscommunication.  Yelling at staff and screaming bloody murder at people volunteering trying to make server more fun is no way to resolve issues, however certainly neither is mocking players who show discontent.

Dingo, man, i get you put a LOT of effort into this eventline and such, and I know all the problems, hell even most of the problems are not your fault. But please, do NOT be surprised that when ST mock playerbases that those playerbases will get frustrated with ST.

And my fellow players, my fellow minemen, remember that this is minecraft, people are trying to make a story here. Even if in your eyes an event is ****, at least understand people are trying their best and don’t have that much true animosity against any playerbase.

and @Gamma a dude walking around not paying attention is not playing a protag. He had it on him as he was told by staff that the safest place to keep a relic was on a soulbound, not an ender chest. If anything fault him for the 30 min argument following the event, but can’t mock a dude for just tryna keep a relic safe.

[Xx_BloodStalk_xX 2173]

2 minutes ago, Noobli said:

And my fellow players, my fellow minemen, remember that this is minecraft, people are trying to make a story here. Even if in your eyes an event is ****, at least understand people are trying their best and don’t have that much true animosity against any playerbase.

thank you 

[mateolog 1552]

9 minutes ago, Noobli said:

ah **** here we go again.

I’m gonna say that Urguan is immaculate of any guilt whatsoever as to why this happened, I mean from what I heard Joel says that our fleet was in the waters of aeg. There’s definitely a level of miscommunication here, idk who exactly that’s on.

There’s definitely a certain animosity between staff and players at this point, I think rooted in miscommunication, overly convoluted and complex systems just to participate, as well as the staff being a bit out of touch with how players feel, although I suppose that’s just another form of miscommunication.  Yelling at staff and screaming bloody murder at people volunteering trying to make server more fun is no way to resolve issues, however certainly neither is mocking players who show discontent.

Dingo, man, i get you put a LOT of effort into this eventline and such, and I know all the problems, hell even most of the problems are not your fault. But please, do NOT be surprised that when ST mock playerbases that those playerbases will get frustrated with ST.

And my fellow players, my fellow minemen, remember that this is minecraft, people are trying to make a story here. Even if in your eyes an event is ****, at least understand people are trying their best and don’t have that much true animosity against any playerbase.

and @Gamma a dude walking around not paying attention is not playing a protag. He had it on him as he was told by staff that the safest place to keep a relic was on a soulbound, not an ender chest. If anything fault him for the 30 min argument following the event, but can’t mock a dude for just tryna keep a relic safe.

The Clergy lies and wants to steal your children.

[Gemini 1639]

I urge everyone participating in this topic to keep the tone civil and considerate of others.