MissToni 3487 Share Posted January 20, 2023 (edited) Player(s) Involved MissToni, Flemishsupremacy, iLime__, JosifNotJoseph, ronin_champloo, PerfecltyPeachy Explanation I got brought into the clinic to treat a patient in roleplay on my character Katerina and did so (iLime__). Then once I had finished Flemish's character Cassius explained what happened in roleplay that he had found the iLime's character talking to a woman who then attacked him with long claws and teeth (vampyre). And due to this he suspected her of being a vampyre as well so we asked to test the person in roleplay and get their consent for that with some arguments in between. But she allowed it, we did the salt test and the blood fizzled. So we asked if we could cure her IRP. And she said yes to being cured IRP, but oocly she said she didn't consent to actually being cured. So we were like fine, we give you the cure and you won't be cured. Talk over. We continue the roleplay, flemish leaves when alchemist (ronin's character) arrives after having been called on via letter. He makes the potion, second person comes in to help chain up the elfess (Josif's character). But then after she has been given the cure some arguments starts oocly because we say IRP that if the cure doesn't work our characters will kill her. Arguments continue, we give her some options and also make it clear we have no ooc hate or vendetta against her. Doesn't seem to listen or care and then says they have a solution that will make both parties happy. We ask what it is and she roleplays her character dying from the physical trauma of her injuries. Peachy walks in and becomes a witness to the whole situation. We are all like "Aight..." and then she is told to /d40. But she refuses, so 1 person gets a sword and starts trying to pop them. But they log off. Relevant Material Evidence https://gyazo.com/c4dfd5f466d9c655b9dfe3548915d601https://gyazo.com/99fdca6aea313f19eb9fbd3dc6cdfab3https://gyazo.com/32051f0d9197c6eed01b150f7ab279fehttps://gyazo.com/aeb0eb3670e5227012d75176d948a1d5https://gyazo.com/1400f2d26bd032518c9da1b26219c5a8https://gyazo.com/c167591f65404d459cc4debe299034a5https://gyazo.com/299e0adbbac678adc706dcd33aa7d884https://gyazo.com/4f48222bdda33f8bf71ba2bc825cd7c6https://gyazo.com/3b6e9fce900f0f7bf9ee14c23826fb51https://gyazo.com/49bad600aa0e7bc69f37913dc60ff48ahttps://gyazo.com/b181fc8e4f7f5304c09a79a3c87a3eb3https://gyazo.com/3a36541b11faac2ef43554c3406141f4https://gyazo.com/c77f269994103bcbea3b6b31da42d5e6https://gyazo.com/21bb382f2760ecbb3f241e398893c857https://gyazo.com/a3e9d5d16aa13f337e01dd799a553568https://gyazo.com/64e33d0e8f3629e8c6bb9ff3bbaf224dhttps://gyazo.com/7203e68597caebd0f14deb4980993b3fhttps://gyazo.com/e7d94c727712f7f4704f7473242c6335https://gyazo.com/d2b98f889738d3f6b3f75b8e9fad3ec4 LOGS: (282, 84, -2225) Haense 01/20/23 Evidence of uncooperative conduct. Evidence Proof that they logged back later on after we were all gone despite having said earlier during the arguments that "They needed to go to bed soon" which are in the other screenshots. Before posting on this thread, please review the Report Rules. Edited January 20, 2023 by MissToni Added screens I got from others as well, added more proof 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellevuna 63 Share Posted January 20, 2023 There are logs of you all trying to lie to iLime__ in rp that curing with irp consent means ooc consent. When iLime__ said that they died from their wounds, someone instead of proceeding to rp search, attempted to initiate pvp without iLime__'s consent and try to pop them. That is why they logged out of confusion and panic. This could have been handled far more better for what I've seen. Not to mention the rp that conspired contained no purpose. You had already eradicated a violent vampyre. When an innocent vampyre that asks irp for a cure is killed for no reason, there is no character development. Using their ooc statement of not giving consent to fuel their death made the entire roleplay pointless. 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tasty_cheesecake 915 Share Posted January 20, 2023 (edited) posting on behalf of ronin_champloo: There's a bit of misrepresentation of what was said concerning what ellevuna has said. We weren't saying that OOC = IRP, as seen from these logs here (There are time-stamps just so you know that there's nothing cut out) -- we were talking about how the RP has happened even without OOC consent. The RP would show the effects/consequences of taking the cure, the aftermath of it, how it'd fail (since OOC consent wasn't given) and that our characters would have to deal with it IRP. Spoiler When they decided to just make RP go to their character unexpectedly dying, we decided to inform them that'd be a /d40. Furthermore, it's pretty bad faith, as the rule itself states which only led to more arguments, hence why I decided to pop them along with the prior rudeness that you can see from the RP. As for the latter argument, if there's a dark creature that cannot be cured. There's no reason for them to be let out IRP, free to roam the lands. Our characters decided that killing them would be the best move (We informed them that it didn't need to be PK, and could just be monk) but they refused that as well. This, however, can be cemented to a difference of views of RP and shouldn't be counted as an argument in the report, though. Edited January 20, 2023 by tasty_cheesecake 20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellevuna 63 Share Posted January 20, 2023 4 hours ago, tasty_cheesecake said: posting on behalf of ronin_champloo: There's a bit of misrepresentation of what was said concerning what ellevuna has said. We weren't saying that OOC = IRP, as seen from these logs here (There are time-stamps just so you know that there's nothing cut out) -- we were talking about how the RP has happened even without OOC consent. The RP would show the effects/consequences of taking the cure, the aftermath of it, how it'd fail (since OOC consent wasn't given) and that our characters would have to deal with it IRP. Reveal hidden contents When they decided to just make RP go to their character unexpectedly dying, we decided to inform them that'd be a /d40. Furthermore, it's pretty bad faith, as the rule itself states which only led to more arguments, hence why I decided to pop them along with the prior rudeness that you can see from the RP. As for the latter argument, if there's a dark creature that cannot be cured. There's no reason for them to be let out IRP, free to roam the lands. Our characters decided that killing them would be the best move (We informed them that it didn't need to be PK, and could just be monk) but they refused that as well. This, however, can be cemented to a difference of views of RP and shouldn't be counted as an argument in the report, though. They were literally trying to gaslight iLime__ that when they said irp consent would be final and they would be cured. As you can see in logs, iLime__ argued that ooc consent does not = irp consent which is common knowledge to many spooks, yet tried to force iLime__ to state that her character was cured. Also in roleplay, you would not know if the cure worked or not unless you full on metagamed their ooc consent statement. The reason I argue for this statement is because iLime__ would have proceeded on with the cure irp if you all hadn't gaslit her, as well as created an ooc problem filled with untrue statements. It was clear that iLime__ was uncomfortable with the situation becoming an OOC situation and proceeded to kill off her character as shown via physical injuries. The bad faith wasn't "bad faith". You left a third degree burn victim to rot, chained up, as well as doing a salt test on her THIRD DEGREE burns. "But when faced with large or deep burns, it can overreact, often making the injury more severe and harming the heart, lungs, blood vessels, kidneys, and other organ systems. During this inflammatory response, there is fluid loss that can cause a sharp and potentially deadly drop in blood pressure known as shock." 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
excited 10833 Share Posted January 20, 2023 Very clear-cut case. iLime__ died from her subsequent wounds after the RP and will respawn at CT. Subsequently, iLime__'s non-soulbound inventory will be turned over to the party that killed her. This will be a warning to iLime__ not to combat log again. This will be a warning to the killers not to pop a player when they refuse to D40, as that is constituted as a Non RP Kill. If you have more to add, DM themotleyfool#6001 at Discord. Report closed. 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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