The New World and You: A Teaser

[James Undercroft 129]

Here's an idea. Why don't we set up polling stations in the major cities. We use books as the ballet and they are all gathered together and counted. You'd have to set up a standard ballet and voting procedure for everyone though.

I think that would be even harder to regulate then an on-line poll. What's to stop people from cheating the system and double voting or something of the sort? I think it would also be a lot of effort for the admins to do such a thing. Also not everyone can access the servers while the admins can. Hmm... I think it is a pretty good idea, but would be extremley hard to impliment in practise.

*edit* lol Garukumus, we said pretty much the same thing at almost the same time ^^

[MrZombez 35]

My idea with a livestream explanation would be for us to voice our thoughts, ideas and the like. From there we would direct people to a Forum Topic so they can voice their thoughts and opinions. Afterwards we would create a massive reply to the common comments and problems.

This isn't official, just a thought. Maybe if we can all plan a point where all Staff are accessible for a 1 hour stream.

Who knows.

[James Undercroft 129]

I like that idea sounds good.

You have my support for it ^^

Just need some clarification on a few points though...

Would the livestream happen before or after everyone voices their opinion?

Or does the live stream happen where the admins come up with ideas, then a forum topic is created where everyone discusses what was said and the admins at the end will post a super-post full of all the answers etc. ?

<Will be going to bed noa (2:04 am for me >_<) so i'll read everything in the morning. Good day my good sirs and madams>

[Robin Drake 731]

@Robin Drake I believe that the idea of selected a few players to represent the player base is really unfair. If this was the case, so many other opinions would be left out, not to mention the people selected probably would only share their own opinions rather then the wants of the whole. I do not mean to offend you here, I mean it sounds like an alright idea. But just like MrZombez pointed out with my idea about the polls, how can you regulate it to be fair for everyone? There is the possibility of it not working. (I am sounding fairly vauge here but i hope you understand me >_<)

@MrZombez I love the idea of a Livestream chat thing. That would be awesome! Just the problem of if 200+ people on at once how will anyone be able to discuss anything? Maybe the idea of select people like Robin said was a good idea after all...

Maybe something could be set up that only allowed certain people to speak at certain times? Like... people raise their hands to ask a question and get permission granted by the admins at the time?

Yea I understand that the idea of a few (maybe 10) people will not be ale to voice every opinion of a no moderator base of like 1000+ players. These people would be nominated by the community and people are likely to nominate people they believe have similar opinions, ideals etc. Though the method of how these players would be chosen is not something I have thought of yet. Perhaps a thread to ask the community for players names who they believe will be able to fairly and respectively represent the community as a whole in such a debate/Q&A session that MrZombez has suggested. This "could" then go to a poll (though apparently polls can be hacked or something) and then the community can vote on the individuals who have been suggested in the previous thread.

Once the poll is finished either the top 10 or a number of selected individuals by the GMs/Admins would be chosen to represent the community. There could also be topics of interest which players want to be brought up which can be noted down for the chosen representatives to bring up during the livestream chat.

I am not sure. Perhaps this will not work as people may suggest on personal preference than on merit. :/

[Trazier 115]

but hopefully we can have a realtime discussion with the community.

So far this is what I see. There are 3 factions here.

1: Kits. These folk believe that a reset with a kit is better, because that way everybody starts out with something, and nobody has to (re)begin all alone and with no gear or money or food.

2: Wipe everything. These folk believe that the only fair way, is for everyone to have all their items and all their money reset. The playing field is thus even (or levelled if you ask me, lol) for everybody from then on out, just like it was on day 1 when the server began, of which I myself and many others were not here for.

3: Keep stuff. These folk believe that the world could stand to have people keep their money and whatever they can carry with them to the new world. They feel there is nothing wrong with the newbie world 'as is' today, where new server applicants join with nothing, but that there is an 'established base' of players and merchants who can give these folk a helping hand, or sell them what they need to get started on their journeys, or purchase what they might've gathered in their early experiences.

I myself (if you haven't read the previous 8 pages) fall into category 3. I started with nothing, and I worked for it, and I used established shops and players to accumulate my items and such with. I'm also of the inclination that having to rebuild your house/city/shop/etc. on the new map, AND having to regather material and such to first outfit yourself before doing so, (then even MORE if you plan to build out of something that isn't dirt/cobblestone/sandstone) would needlessly compound the misery.

Not surprisingly, the majority of the people wanting a reset, don't have much, but there are exceptions. Just like those who want to keep their things, have some things worth keeping.

[Petyr 485]

So far this is what I see. There are 3 factions here.

1: Kits. These folk believe that a reset with a kit is better, because that way everybody starts out with something, and nobody has to (re)begin all alone and with no gear or money or food.

2: Wipe everything. These folk believe that the only fair way, is for everyone to have all their items and all their money reset. The playing field is thus even (or levelled if you ask me, lol) for everybody from then on out, just like it was on day 1 when the server began, of which I myself and many others were not here for.

3: Keep stuff. These folk believe that the world could stand to have people keep their money and whatever they can carry with them to the new world. They feel there is nothing wrong with the newbie world 'as is' today, where new server applicants join with nothing, but that there is an 'established base' of players and merchants who can give these folk a helping hand, or sell them what they need to get started on their journeys, or purchase what they might've gathered in their early experiences.

I myself (if you haven't read the previous 8 pages) fall into category 3. I started with nothing, and I worked for it, and I used established shops and players to accumulate my items and such with. I'm also of the inclination that having to rebuild your house/city/shop/etc. on the new map, AND having to regather material and such to first outfit yourself before doing so, (then even MORE if you plan to build out of something that isn't dirt/cobblestone/sandstone) would needlessly compound the misery.

Not surprisingly, the majority of the people wanting a reset, don't have much, but there are exceptions. Just like those who want to keep their things, have some things worth keeping.

     

“It is good to have an end to journey toward; but it is the journey that matters, in the end”

I still believe that the climb is what's fun and memorable, personally.

[Juvens 199]

Just to point out:

If we can keep an inventory full of items and stuff I'd bring:

-2 Stacks of Diamondblocks ((you never know, could be some war :P))

-2 Stacks of Iron Blocks (( you can never have enough iron!))

-5 Stacks of Bread((Always needed))

-10 Stacks of Cobble((Yeah to build something fancy))

-And maybe a stack of Coal.

So now tell me what's the point of bringing a full inventory? ((I really have these stuff btw and i WOULD bring them if we could))

And all those who say, if people run away from their home they take everything. That is NOT true. They grab as much as they can and run for their lifes. Same situation is when a house burns down. You simply take your family, your pets and yourself and get out...I'd maybe take my laptop aswell, but that isn't the point here.

Okay next point:

Minas.

Tell me now how you would carry 100 000 1 Euro/50 Cent/A coin of your choice. They have a weight.

Just as example:

A 1 euro coin weights 7.5 Gramms.

If you take 100 000 of those coins You get 750000 Gramms that divided by 1000 to get the Kilogramm amount is 750.

So you want to tell me you can carry 750 Kilogramms? And that are just the Coins...See the list above. I'd guess a Iron block is rather heavy aswell ;)

Greetings

[domainoft 191]

It all depends on "how" the world ends. If your house burns down you have very little time to grab anything if any time at all. If there is a huge hurricane headed your way you might have days to plan. And you might not be able to carry 100,000 minas in your pocket but you can surely get large bills and carry it most easily. I am all for a the Kit idea, a wipe clean slate. But see the value of letting donors who recently donated keep some if not all there mina's. I agree with the comment that people who purchased mina's a long time ago probably spent them. If they didn't they probably weren't going to anyway. But if you donated just last week before hearing word of a map reset, going off the previous post that no such thing could happen It would be might unfair to not thank you for your donation. In the end the free players make the server great and the paid players keep the server running and make it great.

@mrzombies I love your idea that giving $100 should get you a fancy home in a capital city, but would rather see it slightly changed so that each person would meet with an appointed architect where they could decide from a list of homes to have built for them, and possibly still make minor changes to suit them. This way everyone can still have a slightly unique home, feel like they put some work into building it, and also match the lore of the city. There are plenty of people that would volunteer for building projects like this, perhaps someone would even start a guild for it, if they haven't already.

[Garukumus 81]

Juvens, how do you carry that around with you normally, its no different.

[Acornlad 206]

2 QuestionsIs the map going to be wiped around the release of 1.9?

Is the map seed going to be changed? If it is, it would add a lot better feel to the world.

[Petyr 485]

2 QuestionsIs the map going to be wiped around the release of 1.9?

Is the map seed going to be changed? If it is, it would add a lot better feel to the world.

Two affirmatives. We need a new seed for the biomes, and our map is corrupted, destined to die at some point.

[V0idsoldier 1139]

Ok, although my opinion is worthless, I want to add what I think in. Please give comments on if you think this is true or not.

1: If you were a rich, popular/powerful, character before the wiper, I guarantee you, you will still become rich popular and powerful again. This is because you are already known ooc and icly, on top of that you clearly have skills at the game, or at least enough to become rich. Although newbies will still be newbies, the alpha dogs will reclaim their thrown guarantee.

2: If you are on this server for the material factors, aka diamonds, money, swords/armor, and not thinking of the epic role play the biggest event of the server will bring, your doing it wrong. Although I am not the richest, but I do not care about losing items, in fact that's a side-note, I haven't thought once about them, I can only think about how awesome the new world will be and as petyr said, the climb is what matters most, I agree. If you cry over your lost items you will be missing out on all the good things to come. What the change will do is give newer/poorer people, who are smart, a chance to make a name for themselves. Take advantage of the sure to rise racial tensions and the confusion of landing on foreign land.

Anyways thats my two cents, not the best merely a opinion.

[James Undercroft 129]

I think Angelos made a lot of sense with what he (she?) said there ^^

I'd just like to point something out though...1.9 is NEVER going to be released. Just 1.9 pre-releases until Minecraft 1.0 is released. You can read that here: http://notch.tumblr.com/

Up untill then, instead of trying to squeeze in another real release, we’re going to do weekly (or so) pre releases, aimed at advanced players. We release these via twitter, so make sure to follow me (@notch) and Jens (@jeb_) if you’re interested in those.

*Edit: Didn't want to double post*

Juvens, how do you carry that around with you normally, its no different.

That may be the case, but the money is not a physical item. I get you could say that it would be the same for escaping but this is an RP server. We PRETEND to be things we aren't. Just like we PRETEND to be carrying around money when we actually do not. Say in an Rp you go to a market, you have a total amount of 100,000 minas. Would you carry ALL of your money to the market? OF COURSE NOT! Not only does it not make sense to be carrying that much money, but there is no point! (Unless your aim is to buy EVERYTHING you possibly can in the marketplace...)

[Trazier 115]

Re:the coins, i'm sure we're not all carrying thousands upon thousands of individual coins. I'm sure minas have more denominations than 'one' in the game.

[James Undercroft 129]

Coinage systems used to all be based around gold.

So I guess yeash, there would be more denominations BUT even with the highest denomination, say 100 (because a coin worth 1000 minas would be extremely unrealistic) and you have 1000 of them. That's stil a LOT of weight.