The New World and You: A Teaser

[char615 41]

Meh, this reminds me of my old pokemon game, I was so into it I never saved and when your mom/dad says to turn it off and you are in a battle with a boss.

You simply lose everything and start anew, until it happens again and I literally say '**** this, I ain't starting again!' and leave the game for about a year...

[James Undercroft 129]

I came up with this idea last night just before I went to sleep. Such a great time to come up with ideas I knwo >_<

What ever the reason is that everyone migrates out of the country, there would have to be a forced evacuation that probably no one could have forseen. During the scramble to escape people would grab all that they could and get the hell out of there. Now what I am saying here is it would be neigh impossible (from an RP perspective) that someome would be able to take ALL their items and money with them. The items they would carry with them would probably be what ever they were carrying plus maybe some valubles from their easy to access chests. On the note of money, it would be what ever they could physically carry with them. Now in the real world, do you ever see anyone lugging around $300,000? Probably not. Unless it's one of those suitcases with the handcuff attached... (sorry getting a litle off topic there)What I am trying to say is, I believe that people if they are allowed to keep their minas would only be able to carry a certain amount. To make it even fairer, i say a random number be generated (I have no troubles creating a simple program that can generate random numbers, i am fairly sure a lot of people here can) and that number represents a percentage or amount to be deducted from their total amount. But here's the thing, the more money you have the harsher the fee.

This would NOT even out the curreny, not at all. All it means is someone with 300,000 would have roughly the same amount as someone with around 50,000 after deduction, BUT would still have a LOT more then someone who only had say 5,000.

Let me just give you an example so you can get your head around it.

(for this example m = minas)

100,000m+ = (50% to 80% deduction)

50,000m - 99,999m (30% to 49% deduction)

10,000m - 49,999m (10% to 29% deduction)

<10,000m (5% to 9% deduction)

(Maybe less then 5k get to keep it all?)

So let's see how this works:

Starting Value 300,000m

Randomly generated number: 67

300,000 * 67% = 201,000

300,000 - 201,000 = 99,000m

Now this does not necessarily have to be the resulting money. It can be, but say the person whom the money is being calculated for is a Rainbow donator or something. They paid A LOT OF MONEY. Well... donated is a better word. And Because of this they got all these benefits and that 40k cash injection. I say they keep them all.

99,000m + 40,000 = 139000m

This is JUST A SUGGESTION! This can be changed as much as the admins wants providing they think this is a good idea of course.

This keeps the rich rich, the poor poor but the rich not as rich as before.

Just a suggestion, please guys tell me what you think!

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[MrZombez 35]

Imagine doing that for EVERY player in the game. It would be tough to regulate, and time consuming for those of use on Staff. Even creating a plugin could cause problems, whose to say it isn't exploitable? Or bugged, and people have no money.

This is why I stand strong on the Kit solution. People receive fair items and minas, and we can run it smoothly with very little error. There are plenty of fully working Kit plugins, I am sure. Especially if we can come up with a system that is balanced and Class based. If ANY players have suggestions/lists of what they consider fair Kits, I urge they PM me about it. Do not, however, PM me about how keeping things is better, or how it is unfair to lose them, please.

[James Undercroft 129]

I really should have read this entire forum discussion before posting >_<

I agree with the Kits idea. It seems really fair to me :P

Maybe we should have a poll? Come up with all the ideas and vote on it and which ever gets the highest will be implimented?

(Lol! I just noticed that the ads on the top of the page (The Download / Play ones) keep changing as they figure out ones which resemble the style of the website. So far they have failed 3 times XD Keep up the good work! :mrgreen: )

[MrZombez 35]

The problem with the polls on this site, they can be messed with, and votes can be changed. So I worry about the fairness. I will speak with others on Staff about having a poll, but hopefully we can have a realtime discussion with the community.

[Robin Drake 731]

The problem with the polls on this site, they can be messed with, and votes can be changed. So I worry about the fairness. I will speak with others on Staff about having a poll, but hopefully we can have a realtime discussion with the community.

perhaps have the community vote to select a certain number of well respected players to represent the rest of the general user base. This would allow for a much more organised realtime discusion than have everyone trying to express their views at once.

[MrZombez 35]

I didn't mean like that. I was suggesting a livestream where we attempt to argue one point, then allow players to post their feelings on a specified forum topic.

However I like your idea as well, and while it may not be implemented, I implore that you try and organize such a thing. I don't have time, I just pop on to reply to posts here, but anything that well known players can do will be a great help.

[Baisha 8]

On another note, This is radical idea that many will oppose but I am hoping and praying someone will give me a better solution. The problem I see is the lack of people playing certain races IE the Orcs mostly.... I walked through Sanjezal earlier today and noticed there was no one there.... I /shout'd the whole way through with "no one hears you" messaged all the way from the outer gate to the thrown room.....I'm an elf... I'm not even supposed to be able to reach it without incurring death...How can you defend your lands if no one is there to defend it. I would propose that only so many characters be allowed to be created under each race. If we can not, we would be better served having Iblees or some other force eliminating there bloodline. They do not deserve to hold a city as large as Sanjezal if they don't have the membership to maintain it. It only discourages people who go there excited only to be disappointed when there are no orcs to roleplay.

While we may not have as many members as the other races, we do have our fair share, but we could certainly use more players. Honestly, you cant expect us to all be on at once. Also, Sanjezal is under major construction, and the only people you could expect to see there currently are myself and maybe one or two others, but usually just me. There are signs in front of the gate for a reason. I do agree we are a bit stretched out though. If you want to see Orcs, you should go to Sanhar.

One other thing, is how long do all the donators feel they are entitled to those minas? You're telling me if you got the minas in May/June you haven't spent them? Does being a donor entitle you to a certain amount of minas at all times regardless of the circumstances? It should be more like a one and done. It seems like some people, if they went bankrupt tomorrow, would argue they should be given their donator minas again.

@Golden, you've done a great, and certainly impressive thing, but surely you can see that allowing people to bring over all that wealth would cause far more problems than the personal comfort it would provide. I do however, agree that donators should get their plots.

What do I see happening if people are allowed their minas and items? A new Dawn's bakery would be established rather quickly and people would go and sit in it, chit-chatting and nothing much would change, and we'd probably be left with a horrible economy (save the few awesome merchants who actually role play their job-- looking at you Nowari! (sorry forgot your exact name :( )). The only groups I actively see out trying to do things en masse are the T.O. and the Orcs.

What is wrong with having to mine and such again? I mean, hell, you could even have one large, rich public mine that could be controlled by a race, thus creating racial tensions and certainly creating some fun RP experiences/battles as people fight to control said mine.

You -donated- because you love the -server-, or so I hope. Before anyone jumps down my throat, yes, I do plan on donating.

[Robin Drake 731]

I didn't mean like that. I was suggesting a livestream where we attempt to argue one point, then allow players to post their feelings on a specified forum topic.

However I like your idea as well, and while it may not be implemented, I implore that you try and organize such a thing. I don't have time, I just pop on to reply to posts here, but anything that well known players can do will be a great help.

Ah, I see. I must have slightly misunderstood you a bit.

I will look into a way to select players who are well known, respectable and fairly active in game, on the forums and in the teamspeak. Perhaps I will make a thread on this when I get home.

[Baisha 8]

How do you make sure the group you select will be an honest representation, and not just the most popular players on the server who may or may not have the best interests of the people/server in mind? I don't write this to belittle the idea, but instead to get an idea of how you plan on going about this.

[MrZombez 35]

I had an idea a while back, and while this is just that, an idea, I feel it might help with cluttered worlds.

Originally, we had it so you got a Lordship if you donated $100+, however that was because we didn't expect many people to donate. After a while it got out of hand, so we removed the perk.

So I figure, why not bring it back, but in a neutral form? I thought instead of "plots", we could give Lord's Manors to players who donate $100+ in the capital of their choice. Essentially you would receive a pretty house, in a Rich District, instead of having a blank plot.

HOWEVER

This would be a fix for those donators who cannot build to match Lore, those who can(Prove themselves as well), can receive a plot in a designated area, assuming it matches Lore and does not overwhelm the area it is in ex/ Too big, extensive underground areas, places that look more like cubes than houses.

This is just my thoughts though, I understand if I sound like I want to dramatic change, however doing a 5 minute flyover today, and seeing how the world has changed for the worse, I think this could fix the cluttered world.

[Baisha 8]

@Zombez I feel like that would be a better solution. By doing so, you would greatly reduce the number of ghost-towns/forts/random massive structures out in the countryside. IMO a player should have to have proven their construction capabilities/ability to keep their structure in line with lore and receive an admin's (or 2) blessing before doing so.

As it is, there are too many mega towns/forts that do nothing other than spread out the population more than it should be.

[James Undercroft 129]

@Robin Drake I believe that the idea of selected a few players to represent the player base is really unfair. If this was the case, so many other opinions would be left out, not to mention the people selected probably would only share their own opinions rather then the wants of the whole. I do not mean to offend you here, I mean it sounds like an alright idea. But just like MrZombez pointed out with my idea about the polls, how can you regulate it to be fair for everyone? There is the possibility of it not working. (I am sounding fairly vauge here but i hope you understand me >_<)

@MrZombez I love the idea of a Livestream chat thing. That would be awesome! Just the problem of if 200+ people on at once how will anyone be able to discuss anything? Maybe the idea of select people like Robin said was a good idea after all...

Maybe something could be set up that only allowed certain people to speak at certain times? Like... people raise their hands to ask a question and get permission granted by the admins at the time?

[Alderium 20]

Here's an idea. Why don't we set up polling stations in the major cities. We use books as the ballet and they are all gathered together and counted. You'd have to set up a standard ballet and voting procedure for everyone though.

[Garukumus 81]

Here's an idea. Why don't we set up polling stations in the major cities. We use books as the ballet and they are all gathered together and counted. You'd have to set up a standard ballet and voting procedure for everyone though.

That would be incredibly hard to set up.......People could make more than one ballot, there are different timezones.....