OOC, Roleplay, and You(r view)

[xo31 4014]

i personally hate roleplay

[Seva 624]

I've not played on the server seriously in quite some time, but I feel as though the thoughts expressed in this article are surprisingly interlaced with my own. I feel like Roleplay hasn't been the priority in a long time, and I often return to the server trying to write good stories only to be roped into Wars or interactions that are fueled based on OOC politics or just generally people's OOC dispositions towards how we should interact with the world. It's in large part due to this that I end up leaving on Hiatus so often, as I feel like my character isn't able to grow when everyone's narrative is already pre-written.

This is definitely a step in the right direction. I would welcome any changes focused on making things more about Roleplay. I miss the days when Diplomacy was real, I miss even older when I would roleplay supply routes for wars, for creating forward camps and making sure our food stocks were high by roleplaying with citizenry to provide more farm stock. There's so much ripe Roleplay to be had that we're squandering. I can't wait to see what comes of this!

[Karina 1901]

I hope that some of these updated rules include harsher punishments for issues such as power & metagaming. Bad faith rp is prevalent at times in part because the consequences rarely seem to be severe. To spend the time putting a report together only for them to get a slap on the wrist is almost worse then them not getting punished at all. 

[lemonke 6014]

Thank you, Squak. I look forward to seeing the changes too! In the end, I just want to roleplay like any other. It's starting to get silly watching all the NLS scheming in the background, getting into staff only to help their groups, or other stuff to mess with people(consequently ruining their enjoyment of roleplay and the server) and so on.

 

Like Minecraft roleplay. That's all there is to it. People need to calm down a little. But yeah, great post!

[Unwillingly 18133]

1 hour ago, squakhawk said:

In fact, most NLs not only endorsed The Spirit of Roleplay, but encouraged it go further than that to be a proper, enforceable guideline rather than an honorbound contract.

I think it's interesting how OOC plotting or metaplay is universally hated and anyone you ask will tell you that it's undesirable when asked upfront, yet remains so prevalent and lasting on the server and these same groups will proceed to participate in it/enable it. but I don't at all think this can be attributed to hypocrisy or people just trying to save face, even though it certainly might be true for some people, but instead the fact that actually adhering to the spirit of RP puts you at a significant disadvantage. you're roleplaying and fostering narratives while your enemies are getting the upper hand over you in their private chats, scheming with each other in vc for 3 hours while you're online engaging with people. you cannot keep up with the game unless you stoop to their level. were this not an issue I think we'd see a lot more sincere interactions between community leaders

 

I can also attest to there being some situations where people will forgo RP if it means you won't acknowledge them OOCly. I've had people try to reach out to me through unnecessary discord means, and when I defer them to contact me in-RP, they never follow up with it. if they cannot talk to you on discord they will not talk to you at all lol

[MysticalWeasel 915]

I am a new player to the server. And I can see a glaring issue there is no point in fighting or having conflict with other nations. As there is no gain that is noticeable outside of land. I feel like if the server had a bigger resource issue it would allow nation leaders to stimulate themselves and their nation more with needing to make strategic alliances and resource pacts with other nations. Driving more interaction and self stimulating rp to other nations and their leaders.



 

[AlternisJ 381]

I'm a rather new NL to all of this, though I thank the admin team for listening to me and discussing. Ever since I taken over NL of this mess called Lurin, The change was very blatant for me, from time to time ooc stuff to basically everyday there was something OOC. The push back to roleplay and in game activites is amazing for me.

On a entire different topic, please replace Amethyst I beg. Make a Resource island item.

[satin 7600]

Deferring to RP over Discord diplomacy places you in a direct disadvantage over competitors engaging in metaplay. I’m all for the influence of OOC being swept away, but any rules that want to do that will actively need to incentivise RP interactions - probably by punishing people who engage in Discord diplomacy far more harshly than is done now.

 

 

[Smmer 2441]

NL pk clause pls

[AndrewTech 3334]

An excellent proposal that will go a long way to fix many of the server’s systemic issues regarding the degradation of roleplay dynamicism. Though I think more needs to be done to remedy this among the average player (public discord regulation / limitation, roleplay first moderation policies, etc), this is a good start to change things at the top. Thank you sincerely for trying to address this problem, Squak. 

[Laeonathan 5891]

1 minute ago, satinkira said:

Deferring to RP over Discord diplomacy places you in a direct disadvantage over competitors engaging in metaplay. I’m all for the influence of OOC being swept away, but any rules that want to do that will actively need to incentivise RP interactions - probably by punishing people who engage in Discord diplomacy far more harshly than is done now.

Exactly that. Very few people actually want discord bullshit, but nobody want to die to discord bullshit so they do discord bullshit as well - it's what most NLs told me... and I understand the attitude. Hence we need strict rules.

[NotEvilAtAll 10906]

An easy solution is to abolish realms and bring back Freebuild :^).

 

No PRO, no problem!

[Malta 2811]

yes but how will I destroy my ooc minecraft enemies if I can't scheme against them 

I agree with most of the sentiments in this post, and think this is probably a good direction for the server to go in at this point. 

[SethWolf 2340]

 

 

im not going to write a club-sized paragraph that will beat this dead horse any further than it already has been, but here are my thoughts in a nutshell:

other people are right. if you be the good guy and stick to a strict roleplay only policy as an NL, you are willingly playing with both hands tied behind your back. You cannot reasonably organize a proper response in the time needed when shit hits the fan through a 2/3 hour long council meeting, meanwhilst the other side hammered out everything you just did in a 15 minute phone call.

 

if you really want to stop it, staff need to start swinging on the leadership of the server. start punishing people for making discord chats, ban ooc plotting, DESTROY discord. Ofcourse, this will effectively force a massive cultural change on the server and make it by far more infuriating to actually organise things on, but it will create the change you seek in that ooc plotting will be cut down.

 

[don dada 579]

woo good one sand