I Am Green and I choose for you.

[Beardicuss 486]

46 minutes ago, Chimeraof1999 said:

st signed trout or

The local kind

[Chimeraof1999 1187]

1 hour ago, PrimnyaQuorum said:

I cannot find a singular treelord who has expressed this sentiment about what happened 

[PrimnyaQuorum 3999]

3 minutes ago, Chimeraof1999 said:

Yoink my cat meme now

[Slorbin 2932]

your first mistake was picking up druid. NEVER play a druid

[Rig 17580]

11 hours ago, DragonofTaters said:

So this has become a thing. I’ve got work in two hours so I’m just writing one thing. I hold no ill will towards the villains who came to get my character. I hold no ill will towards the staff who had to make calls on the fly while handling a massive CRP situation spanning 30+ players over the entirety of the village. Tree Lord is an extremely broken CA, the lore horrifically written, and the common assumptions held by the community for years going uncorrected or clarified until situations of intense, volatile conflict. Last time I witnessed this it was with the Azdrazi coming to try and pk several Tree Lords. The Tree Lords were trying to metagame and loophole their broken lore to avoid it. At the time, no trees held a sapling. They had some excuse for not taking them, but end of the day they just assumed they could refuse to do the interactions. Very bad faith rp on their part. ST at the time gave them grace for reasons unknown to me. Allowed them to grab saplings before adjusting redlines and adding this now infamous ‘Freeze Clause’. Now, they were all allowed that in spite of their blatant bad faith. No forced pks occurred. This situation, despite stemming from a similar villainy arc and poorly written redlines has the players in question being punished without any grace period for correction. It sucks for the players. It sucks that there’s inconsistency with how things are being ruled in a situation where folks were trying to be in good faith on both sides. 
 

I haven’t got answers for why the st made one call in favor of bad faith whining Druids back in the day and why now it feels the opposite. That was a different team, and different times. They had their reasons, which I’m sure pissed off the azdrazi at the time. This team has its own reasons, and now it’s the Druids’ turn to be pissed because it didn’t swing our way. We as a community have said for years that our CA was trash yet did nothing to fix it. Calls get made, verdicts get passed, but we also have blatantly sat on terrible lore and just accepted it without truly trying to change anything; save for one attempt at a rewrite from MayRndz. 
 

I am truly sorry for the loss of everyone’s characters, especially due to a situation my Druid brought to the village and to people she turned into this CA. This was not something I expected or foresaw, and I do take accountability for not taking my own initiative in regards to clarifying issues with the CA I gave to others. There is a lot of bitterness being held due to all this. I know how much time and joy goes into these characters we’ve lost. I’m with you on that. I know how much it hurts when our friends are upset, frustrated, and leave due to problems. But fueling arguments and heated back and forths isn’t going to help anyone feel better here. We can keep throwing hate and accusations, or we can do what we should’ve done years ago and fix this lore.

 

11 hours ago, Neropolitan said:

Hi. I don't post for shit usually. But I am one of the people affected by this in the end, and I ain't even this mad. I do seem to be somewhat the outlier on this that said, but at the end of the day. We did sign t he contract. We did say yes. I don't agree with half the inflammatory nonsense going on around this, and I don't think there was some conspiracy nonsense to get the victims pk'd. Quite frankly, I think we just got the short end of the stick on a not terribly consistently ruled mechanic. Its whatever. It happens. Such is life. Not everyone is out to get someone else. Those being inflammatory. Don't speak for me in the end. That's all I got. The only thing I can think to add is simply.. get the redline ammended.

 

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

The last comment I'll have on the matter is that I appreciate the both of you saying these things. There was no concerted effort by my party to report the other side and we didn't actively pursue any kind of actionable steps OOC to PK anybody. I appreciate you Taters & Neropolitan for being so polite, taking things on the chin, and actively intervening on this thread to give your opinion as people who are impacted by the ruling. The things I outline below will not be to argue with you, but are going to be generally explained for others who might still believe this is somehow a conspiracy.

 

Addressed to the conspiracy theorists however,

 

1. The only ticket I made that day was a Modreq to signify we were raiding.

2. I am not Lore Team, I had nothing to do with the verdict, nor was I involved in the Omni of locations & items by Story Team. 

3. The subject never entered Enforcement Chat. If it did, I would have been forced to recuse myself from the discussion due to personal involvement in the role-play. 

4. If I knew 4 people would be PK'd, I likely wouldn't have burned the trees and just tainted them instead. I have very strict personal rules for myself when it comes to how I treat other players.

 

I am also going to highlight this since some of the people who are upset wish to pin the blame on other people, while using the loss of their characters as an excuse to dredge up old OOC drama. It is inexcusable to create conspiracy theories surrounding players you might dislike just because they opposed you in role-play. If I wanted to, we could have not admitted half your rally due to the timer, but I told Trinn it was okay for more people to show up since I wanted an even fight. The evidence of the role-play culminating in the fight existed for weeks. I was super stressed out because a lot of the people on the other side were OOC friends or acquaintances of mine, and I hate to CRP my own friends. To claim in any way to have a window into my soul and see that I plotted the misfortune of other people through out-of-character means in this instance is frankly incorrect. Additionally, to morally posture and grandstand the subject by fabricating moral outrage by falsely trying to implicate me as having broken rules without understanding the full context of the role-play and my frustration with having to do it in the first place is also displeasing to hear about. 

 

Being CRP locked against my own friends who I believed would not be on at the time left any "victory" feeling bittersweet. I continued solely because I was locked in the role-play and wanted to finish it. As for Tav, somebody making an annoying or snarky comment a few times isn't major harassment, God forbid a gay dude has some motion. 

 

Letting you guys rally late in addition to other kindnesses I extended during the whole roleplay (which your side did reciprocate in some instances) should be proof enough of the good faith that existed in that situation. If it were solely a plot for my own advancement and I knew they'd all be PK'd in advance and had a malicious desire to see it through, would I not have simply barred the newcomers from entry, paused the RP, then logged on during the date next arranged just to kill the Soul Trees and leave?

[creamynoteblock 3256]

I control the neural network that pilots every ST member and I made this happen because I want every druid to ******* die

[Wonderland_Boy 1081]

10 hours ago, TheDrHedgehog said:

Waiter, waiter, more forum wars please!

This is Lotc, the day we stop having forum wars is the day people decide to quit the server as a whole

[MysticalWeasel 910]

4 hours ago, PrimnyaQuorum said:

Yoink my cat meme now

Yoink, thank you 

[DistantCryptid 405]

Hello, affected party here.

I won't delve into it much! Most of the points I would have to speak up on have already been made and put into the usual tug-of-war that comment sections turns into, so I will keep it as brief as I can.
 

I left on a vacation, got put into a week's worth of frozen roleplay because they wanted to attack my tree, and then a verdict retcons my character's survival of such an event a week after the fact. I was not able to be present for my character's own death. It was all done behind my back through bureaucracy.

After that, I have no wish to pursue any storylines in a server that allows for such a thing, which is well within my right to be upset over nearly two years' worth of effort going down the drain via LT retcon.

I do wish you all the best, but please do not contact me again about this server.

[The Tough Guy 4319]

I will have to change the forum warrior power rankings after this.

[NightcastorKitty 2779]

 

 

I've been pretty much quiet on this matter ever since it occurred due to a loss in my life that has been difficult to accept. While my character's soul tree was indeed a part of it as well, I had fellow ST help me through this entire ordeal given my personal situation irl to deal with. I first wish to thank those that helped me during this time, offering to roleplay my soul tree, getting ones to help, and getting an outcome done while I've been gone. For what I'm about to write, it will be in two parts. First is the side of the Treelords. The Second of Management/Mods. I hope this gives context in the end for both sides to find understanding. 

 

 

We all know how it started. An attack on Illivia with some evil droods and abunch of inferi. The target was dragonoftater's soul tree. Which was in a grotto with abunch of other soul trees there. This in and of itself treelords would already understand that there is pros and cons to doing such. Which a con then happened. With Tater's soul tree attacked and destroyed, the raid wanted to go after all trees in the grove. Soul trees, regular trees, it didn't matter but players were tired and wanted to log(from my understanding). So it ended up being CRP locked. The Treelords all involved were placed in a group chat with Raiderblue, Trinn, later Pallo(ST manager). To schedule interactions. Hopefully with all those involved there at the same time. Now at that point, none of the other soul trees were ever interacted with or begun an attack upon. Most of us were asleep or not around and were surprised with the sudden statement. Which first drew some confusion and frustration. Lore was double checked and protocol was indeed being followed in regards to how soul tree interaction works. The main frustration being the trees never interacted with at all first with getting attacked, they were just in the area itself. Which was deemed CRP locked. So a froze occurred that lasted til the next weekend, which was 1 OOC week. During that time, Tater's posted the pk post and many of us were left with not being sure on if we could RP our characters or how to RP the characters. As reactions were going on in real time for all the other druids, but for those frozen, we couldn't acknowledge or react correctly because it was still happening for us. Trinn tried helping with offering solutions to this, but in the end. It was difficult to roleplay what to do. During this time as well, while of course the usual grumblings of a freeze and that the treelords should be allowed to get a rally or something because lore wise, made sense of a treelord dropping like a fly, people want to check on their tree. At the end of the day, the redlines were clear in that regard. 

 

Now before I left the chats given my irl situation, there was back and forth on the touchy subject of unattunement and murdering soul trees and stuff. It was stated someone might get unattuned since the one for tater's didn't go off. So ontop of the freeze of the unknown, out of the four of us, one would get unattuned. Which unfortunately being told on a maybe didn't help the matter nor calm. Even if trying to explain and be honest. There wasn't ill will on the statement, but the stress grew with that unknown of who it would be. The rest would just be destroyed and stated if you had a sapling, you will be fine. I personally didn't care on the matter by that point. As I explained I was fine with whatever happens. I had Werewolf on standby to RP my tree and later Raiderblue helped find someone else to do it because Werewolf couldn't be there that day when the unfreeze happened. (Thank you again guys). Shortly after, I had to leave the chats as I was dealing with irl. So I don't know what else was said. 

 

So fast forward to the day of. Soul trees were roleplayed, destroyed. No one was unattuned. Everything finally finished. Saplings were used to plant elsewhere and so everything continued on. So like Feb 7th this happened, then on Feb 10th(from what I can tell with the messaging), suddenly the soul tree users were messaged by Squak that an audit happened after an enquiry from the opposing side on the saplings and determined they didn't count so the treelords got PK'd. Now, the treelords are absolutely confused and hurt. As seen here. Because they thought it was over. They thought they were also following how Saplings worked because while everyone here saw the redline in regards to what is needed to do to keep a sapling alive, every single treelord had done the sapling in chest thing at one point or another. Because the lore was so vague in that regard, it was never seen as an issue and allowed. As well as saplings always accepted and used. The treelords in the end, didn't do anything wrong as they thought they WERE following lore given the redline wasn't specified and all the soul trees did such at one point or another. 


On the side of ST Management and Moderation. This would be a pretty huge CRP situation and given the number of CAs effected, would need calls made and people on standby. The Opposing side of evil droods and inferi had a mod and an ST oversee the events and during that CRP, calls had to be made where the lore was vague. Tater's soul tree, for example, in regards to how many emotes would malflame destroy a soul tree. A call had to be made and determined for 3 emotes. Which was one short of the unattunement emote. Yet because the tree succumbed to the malflames an emote early, it was deemed a pk given all that was happening to it. Later on, Mod and Management had to deal with explaining to the treelords on the redlines of soul tree lore and trying to defuse the situation. Again, Trinn offering alternatives and trying to make the freeze situation fair for both sides. Especially in regards to how to roleplay and proceed. Pallo coming in later and explaining that management did talk over how to do the CRP because at the end of the day, this was a very unique and tricky situation. And it would be a huge task to make an individual CRP lock freeze for every single soul tree user there when its from the exact same CRP encounter. 

 

Now, as stated above on the treelord side, I left the chats given irl situation. The attack proceeded on Feb 7th, things wrapped up and all said and done. However, Raiderblue then realized there was a clause in soul tree lore regarding Saplings and keeping them alive and healthy. Now, this does happen of something missed or not thought about and it brought up to management. Management told this because well, this was already a huge task and several ST were part of this encounter soul tree side. This is standard protocol. So given the situation, Management looked into it. There wasn't a duration or specifics on how a sapling is stored or frequent hugging requirement. This was written back then with the mindset of a Druid knowing what it means. Which back then, it actually followed how awakening worked with staves. If a druid isn't feeding energies for an OOC week (or something), it would fall dormant. But Management of course didn't know that nor could even rule on that factor because nothing was stated. Squak instead gave a HUGE leeway 30 day omni log to see if saplings were interacted with or at least in druid player inventories. And as people can see the results, Management had to think on a decision here. Because while the CRP was said and done, they were also faced with what is fair for the opposing side and what is fair in the lore itself. Of following the rules of what you agreed to play. Thus it was decided, even after giving a massive leeway chance, of the saplings not counting. 

 

 

Now at the end of all this. My personal opinion on the matter is that while things could've definitely been handled better on both sides. No one is at fault or did anything wrong. The evil drood players weren't conspiring with ST to force take down so many people. The treelords weren't dodging creature mechanics or breaking lore, they were following what redlines were given and how all current and previous treelords did. It is a very unfortunate and frustrating situation. But, it should be noted that none of the sides were bad or out to get the other or avoiding mechanics. I think the PKs shouldn't have happened and an immediate amendment should've been made to fix that glaring sapling issue, but that option is one of a few. And its fair that it wasn't chosen by Management to uphold. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Laeonathan 5889]

On 2/11/2026 at 8:25 AM, RezRatKeia said:

I'd comment, but I would hate to bark up the wrong tree 

no ******* way

[DragonofTaters 920]

Fooldude, if you want to be pissed at someone then point the finger at me. I had your sapling and didn’t interact with it in the past month (just shy a couple days when Nen died. Omni wasn’t when I thought). I didn’t stash it inside my shifting grotto, fae ring, nor did I make my ogham stone ring which would’ve been a third lore structure the saplings could’ve fed off of. I could’ve made a secret safe under my tree itself. I didn’t think to do it because no one had ever said I needed to. St and soul trees I’d asked previously said stashing it in a box was fine, and carrying it soulbound murder because ‘what’s on you mechanically is on you rply’. I took those rulings from my past experiences at face value. I accepted them and went by them. When asked about it by other tree lord players or Druids, that’s what I shared.

 

I was wrong. Didn’t know it, but I was. Druids have a nasty habit of falling into a sense of security about our lore and redlines. Taking old players (hi that’s me now) at face value instead of asking staff. You knew how janky soul tree lore was. You started rewriting it before you ever got it because it was so bad. Yet you wanted it. You asked for it. I did warn you oocly Nen was a walking target. You decided Illivira was still safer than elsewhere cause you feared Kurai Kuni more than Nenar’s enemies. 
 

Looking around trying to accuse people of schemes against you is way out of line. Using a screenshot I gave you 2 minutes after messaging Pallo to show you I had done what you asked me to as proof that he ‘didn’t respond’ is wild. Accusing Tav of conspiring because the guy likes to shitpost is insane when you do the exact same thing. I know you commented on Cryptid’s app. I know you’ve commented on the apps of other students I’ve picked up. You can’t go around accusing everyone but those you call friends of having it out for you. I guarantee you, most people on this server couldn’t give a shit about most other folks. And the ones who do have beef aren’t conspiring, they’re just waiting for forum wars to jump in on. That’s as far as that goes. 
 

You have spent months in my dms talking about how one group or another is out to get you, me, the Druid community, etc. Your fears on that are founded only in pure paranoia and happenstance. Taking any little instance of action against your character or those of your friends to back up those claims is taking it to an extreme. This is an rp server. RP is based on storytelling. Stories survive and thrive off conflict in one manner or another. You will drive yourself crazy if you keep this up. More than that, you’re going to alienate everyone around you. People don’t have it out for you. But if you keep making wild accusations and throwing hate left and right, you’re going to end up making them hate you. It’s a self fulfilling prophecy, my guy. You need to stop. For your sake, for the sake of your friendships, and if you want to be able to have healthy interaction with the server and roleplay.

 

Eli, Raider, and their gang of rp hooligans were nothing but pleasant and patient with me during and after all that rp. Yes there were some moments that brought questions up, but at the end of the day they explained everything they’d done and we are chill. I enjoyed (as much as one can) the rp they afforded me. For a character like Nenar, that was just about as good an ending as I could’ve asked for her, story wise. I’ve had no issues with what happened until now. And even if that malflame call had gone my way, Nen would still be dead. Because my sapling was with Sasha’s. So no issues for me. Until choices I made, and beliefs I held, got three characters I loved killed. 3 people I call friends and only want to see having a good time upset and hurt.

Could the st have chosen to be lenient and warned folks rather than forced a pk? Yeah. The ‘bad guys’ werent gunning for more blood. They got what they wanted from Nen’s death. But that decision was with management not the attackers. And they chose to draw a hard line. Hard, but in some ways very needed. We as a playerbase need to take accountability for our lore, our rp, and the lack of effort we put into certain areas of it. The ST here chose a wake up call for us. A harsh one, yes. But a necessary one. I can guarantee you this won’t happen again now. They’re not the bad guys.

 

I made your tree. I made all of your trees. I made that grotto, and designed the areas. I made the call not to act on ooc knowledge to change my layout and prevent people entering, because my character wouldn’t know it. And she wouldn’t change her home without knowing. I made the call to put your sapling where I did. And I made the choice to not return to it as frequently as I should have. If you’re going to throw hate and anger, throw it where it belongs. 

 

All that said and done, I am sorry. To you, to Cryptid, to Nero, Delmo, and Alex. For the stress you’ve had to deal with. For the frozen rp and complications. I’m sorry for the characters you’ve lost through my negligence and my choices. I am sorry to the Illivira community, for the stress and heartache. The Druids as well. The staff, for having to try and deal with this shitshow. And Tav, for all the crap he has gotten and continues to get just because he rps an ******* and makes comments oocly that everyone else makes too. Y’all need to lay off him. He’s not the supreme source of evil. He’s just a guy, and literally every single one of us is just as capable of being an ******* as he is. Can guarantee he’s got more than enough reasons to shit on all of us, including myself.

[NightcastorKitty 2779]

@DragonofTaters I'm only going to say this once. 

 

Don't apologize. Seriously. And anyone saying it is your fault can go ---- themselves and get a life. 

[trinn 5128]

tav defence in the big 2026 

the world is healing