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I assume warriors can use chainmail now to move faster. Only the most experienced warriors [those willing to run at such a slow pace] would wear iron and diamond armor.

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Alright,

I am getting extremely dissapointed in the decision making abilities of the people in charge of the server.

I have read through this entire thread for a possible explanation of such a horribly... and I mean game-breakingly... unbalanced update to armor and weapons.

All of the admin posts have been basically "It will be fixed sometime later."

In this situation it should have never been implemented in the first place, it doesn't take a genius to know giving archers the ability to one-hit-kill people in light or no armor and then making it so that anyone in heavy armor can't ever possibly catch an archer, makes them basically god.

How about the balance considerations with NPCs? Did anyone realize that it is now impossible to run from them? It is also now impossible to dodge their attacks in melee wearing any armor that provides any worth-while damage reduction. So melees are now reduced to literally a HP race with whatever they are fighting.

All in all a very poorly thought out addition to the server.

However, on the plus side we did get a new shop plugin that has been direly needed, so kudos on that.

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Alright,

I am getting extremely dissapointed in the decision making abilities of the people in charge of the server.

I have read through this entire thread for a possible explanation of such a horribly... and I mean game-breakingly... unbalanced update to armor and weapons.

All of the admin posts have been basically "It will be fixed sometime later."

In this situation it should have never been implemented in the first place, it doesn't take a genius to know giving archers the ability to one-hit-kill people in light or no armor and then making it so that anyone in heavy armor can't ever possibly catch an archer, makes them basically god.

How about the balance considerations with NPCs? Did anyone realize that it is now impossible to run from them? It is also now impossible to dodge their attacks in melee wearing any armor that provides any worth-while damage reduction. So melees are now reduced to literally a HP race with whatever they are fighting.

All in all a very poorly thought out addition to the server.

However, on the plus side we did get a new shop plugin that has been direly needed, so kudos on that.

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Alright,

I am getting extremely dissapointed in the decision making abilities of the people in charge of the server.

I have read through this entire thread for a possible explanation of such a horribly... and I mean game-breakingly... unbalanced update to armor and weapons.

All of the admin posts have been basically "It will be fixed sometime later."

In this situation it should have never been implemented in the first place, it doesn't take a genius to know giving archers the ability to one-hit-kill people in light or no armor and then making it so that anyone in heavy armor can't ever possibly catch an archer, makes them basically god.

How about the balance considerations with NPCs? Did anyone realize that it is now impossible to run from them? It is also now impossible to dodge their attacks in melee wearing any armor that provides any worth-while damage reduction. So melees are now reduced to literally a HP race with whatever they are fighting.

All in all a very poorly thought out addition to the server.

However, on the plus side we did get a new shop plugin that has been direly needed, so kudos on that.

I am terribly sorry, that the GM team, myself included, aren't omniscient.

In the future, I hope we can be more 'professional' than just listening to the players thoughts, and be more like a super computer that can monitor everything, at any given time. And process every possible action. I now realize that giving the players the ability to effect the server is a horrible mistake. I am deeply sorry.

/Ahem/

Anyways, now to the seriousness. I think you need to realize something, the GM team is made of humans. Humans. That means we have something called a Heart, and we make somethings that are called mistakes. And we do somethings that are called Tests, and failure runs. In all honesty, we asked the players what they wanted, we asked them for their opinions, and we listened to the majority. We implemented More Physics, based on what the players wanted. Which, to be honest, is actually a better, imo, than what we had before.

This is kind of like a slap in the face, to Vaq, and to the entire GM team. And, fyi, Vaq has fixed almost all of the problems/glitches/bugs that were brought up today.

--Seventh

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I am terribly sorry, that the GM team, myself included, aren't omniscient.

In the future, I hope we can be more 'professional' than just listening to the players thoughts, and be more like a super computer that can monitor everything, at any given time. And process every possible action. I now realize that giving the players the ability to effect the server is a horrible mistake. I am deeply sorry.

/Ahem/

Anyways, now to the seriousness. I think you need to realize something, the GM team is made of humans. Humans. That means we have something called a Heart, and we make somethings that rea called mistakes. And we do somethings that are called Tests, and failure runs. In all honesty, we asked the players what they wanted, we asked them for their opinions, and we listened to the majority ,andw e implemented More Physics. Which, to be honest, is actually a better, imo, than what we had before.

This is kind of like a slap in the face, to Vaq, and to the entire GM team. And, fyi, Vaq has fixed almost all of the problems/glitches/bugs that were brought up today.

--Seventh

Thank you for responding.

You should never make a mistake this big and expect to get away with a "Sorry".

Was the modification play tested at all? I am lead to believe it wasn't since if it was the mistake wouldn't have been made in the first place.

If you are using the active server in order to play test new modifications then I would love to continue lecturing you some more for bad management.

The fact that the development team has hurried up and fixed the problems doesn't get them bonus points since the development team caused the problem in the first place. It basically equates out to self preservation.

I have another question though regarding your "Most of the player base" statement though, because I hang out on the forums quite a bit and I have never seen an official poll on this or anything before it was implemented.

I am not saying you can't change whatever you want, it's your server, I am saying that if you claim you do it for the majority of the server you better have proof to back your statement up.

This isn't to say I don't support physics, I do. However when you just add a physics modification with no thought to what the consequences might be I get quite angry because it shows just how little the development team thinks about these modifications sometimes.

Just because people ask for something does not mean you give it to them either. The average age of players on the server is barley hitting puberty, let alone knows how to balance and maintain a game system, their minds still run on what's cool and not on what actually works.

So in closing, please, at least run the numbers before changing something like this.

Thank you for reading my post.

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Hmm, how can wheat and a bucket become milk..?

Maybe a bucket of water and wheat?

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Thank you for responding.

You should never make a mistake this big and expect to get away with a "Sorry".

Was the modification play tested at all? I am lead to believe it wasn't since if it was the mistake wouldn't have been made in the first place.

If you are using the active server in order to play test new modifications then I would love to continue lecturing you some more for bad management.

The fact that the development team has hurried up and fixed the problems doesn't get them bonus points since the development team caused the problem in the first place. It basically equates out to self preservation.

I have another question though regarding your "Most of the player base" statement though, because I hang out on the forums quite a bit and I have never seen an official poll on this or anything before it was implemented.

I am not saying you can't change whatever you want, it's your server, I am saying that if you claim you do it for the majority of the server you better have proof to back your statement up.

This isn't to say I don't support physics, I do. However when you just add a physics modification with no thought to what the consequences might be I get quite angry because it shows just how little the development team thinks about these modifications sometimes.

Just because people ask for something does not mean you give it to them either. The average age of players on the server is barley hitting puberty, let alone knows how to balance and maintain a game system, their minds still run on what's cool and not on what actually works.

So in closing, please, at least run the numbers before changing something like this.

Thank you for reading my post.

You have got to be kidding me. You aren't being serious are you?

The majority of players: http://www.lordofthecraft.net/?p=2809#more-2809

I don't know what rock you've been living under. I was not appologizing to you, at all, I was being sarcastic. Honestly, I wouldn't appologize over this, at all, the players wanted it, they got it.

I am a bit Aggrivated because of the fact that the players voted on a positive addition for More Physics, and now it seems as though it's the Staff's fault because we don't know how to 'manage'.

Right.

--Seventh

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Thank you for responding.

You should never make a mistake this big and expect to get away with a "Sorry".

Was the modification play tested at all? I am lead to believe it wasn't since if it was the mistake wouldn't have been made in the first place.

If you are using the active server in order to play test new modifications then I would love to continue lecturing you some more for bad management.

The fact that the development team has hurried up and fixed the problems doesn't get them bonus points since the development team caused the problem in the first place. It basically equates out to self preservation.

I have another question though regarding your "Most of the player base" statement though, because I hang out on the forums quite a bit and I have never seen an official poll on this or anything before it was implemented.

I am not saying you can't change whatever you want, it's your server, I am saying that if you claim you do it for the majority of the server you better have proof to back your statement up.

This isn't to say I don't support physics, I do. However when you just add a physics modification with no thought to what the consequences might be I get quite angry because it shows just how little the development team thinks about these modifications sometimes.

Just because people ask for something does not mean you give it to them either. The average age of players on the server is barley hitting puberty, let alone knows how to balance and maintain a game system, their minds still run on what's cool and not on what actually works.

So in closing, please, at least run the numbers before changing something like this.

Thank you for reading my post.

There was an official poll on the main page and these plugins greatly improve rp people can no longer sprint with a full set of diamond or swim away and if you looked at the poll that was on the main page you would see the majority of the players voted for these plugins to be implemented and please respect our hard working staff members they do have lives ok so just chill out bro and live with it.

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Thank you for responding.

You should never make a mistake this big and expect to get away with a "Sorry".

Was the modification play tested at all? I am lead to believe it wasn't since if it was the mistake wouldn't have been made in the first place.

If you are using the active server in order to play test new modifications then I would love to continue lecturing you some more for bad management.

The fact that the development team has hurried up and fixed the problems doesn't get them bonus points since the development team caused the problem in the first place. It basically equates out to self preservation.

I have another question though regarding your "Most of the player base" statement though, because I hang out on the forums quite a bit and I have never seen an official poll on this or anything before it was implemented.

I am not saying you can't change whatever you want, it's your server, I am saying that if you claim you do it for the majority of the server you better have proof to back your statement up.

This isn't to say I don't support physics, I do. However when you just add a physics modification with no thought to what the consequences might be I get quite angry because it shows just how little the development team thinks about these modifications sometimes.

Just because people ask for something does not mean you give it to them either. The average age of players on the server is barley hitting puberty, let alone knows how to balance and maintain a game system, their minds still run on what's cool and not on what actually works.

So in closing, please, at least run the numbers before changing something like this.

Thank you for reading my post.

I'd like to remind you that the whole staff team volunteers their time. They have -no- obligation to make you happy. They made a small mistake. Everyone makes mistakes.

Majority of the playerbase has not yet hit puberty? Are you kidding me? More than half of the server are 14-18, so why don't you go get your numbers straight.

Please show some respect to the staff that makes this whole server even possible.

If you treat people like this over the internet, I dare not wonder how you treat people in real life.

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Nice now my character can finally run away since she has no combat skills whatsoever without being chased by thugs in iron armor

Though lightning does still appear to cause fires or at least it set my house on fire earlier

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Hmm, how can wheat and a bucket become milk..?Maybe a bucket of water and wheat?

Wheat is like barley and it does not make "milk" it makes "ale". Imagination required.

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