Skippy 2466 Share Posted December 3, 2012 I like it, Mogroka. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aren Whitestorm 65 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Hrm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
imjoebaker 40 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Although I wish not to take anything away from this post, it is most likely well needed and needs to be discussed. However, I just feel that it should be common practice. "Treat others as you wish to be treated" is a fundamental rule of the world. It should be practiced and exercised. It should not only encouraged but enforced. Given, everyone slips up. You get in outdated with work and you get a bit short or snappy with someone, It happens. Should that ever be the case, a sorry can go a long way. With all the potential negative things to happen to lotc recently I only wish it to learn from its mistakes and if anything this all should bring everyone together. - Joe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temp 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2012 I'm cool with the proposed plan, and once the playerbase gets to know the staff, they will begin to respect and trust them much more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TornadoWatch 364 Share Posted December 3, 2012 One thing I'd like to see is the concept of one or more staff members going 'Undercover'. What would this mean? It would be a staff member fundamentally becoming a new player again. They would obtain a new MC account, a voice modifier for Teamspeak if needed, and they would start from square one. Preferably, not even the other staff would know who this person was, and in turn the undercover individual would not be allowed to talk to the staff/go into their channels as their undercover persona. This person would have to start from the beginning; they would have to make an application, get accepted to the server, and just go from there. Act like a -normal- player; no getting special preference from GM's for /modreqs, no spawned items, etc. I feel like this would help give the staff insight into what it is like for the players, even moreso when they join a guild and get their opinions on things. This is a pretty outlandish idea, and I can hardly see it working, however. Maybe in a far off, distant world where admins and GM's have time on their hands. Mogroka has the right idea, as usual, but interaction with players and staff is the most important thing. If you don't talk then you don't -understand-, and that is what is important. However, again, the idea of getting hostility and hatred away from the staff and player relationship is a great one; I've heard many stories about the whole 'You disagree with me, thusly you disrespect me, thusly you're banned.' issue; I'd so as far to say that staff who have done this excessively in the past should be demoted... But I don't know enough about it to make an actual judgment, that's just what I think if the stories are true. There's a few other things I have on my mind, as well; players should -generally- be given the benefit of the doubt in regard to bans. The word of a GM or Admin alone should absolutely NEVER be enough to get a player banned. Evidence must be present. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
imjoebaker 40 Share Posted December 3, 2012 -snip- Shift has done this a few times in the past. It didn't work out :P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TornadoWatch 364 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Shift has done this a few times in the past. It didn't work out :P It could, potentially, but I see a lot of issues with it. Decided to add more to the post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secret Lizard President 313 Share Posted December 3, 2012 I don't believe staff should be forced to spend time in TS channels that they don't want to be in. You can open up a private text chat with them; use it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enyahs V. 173 Share Posted December 3, 2012 I do not believe that you have to respect staff, but only speak to them respectfully there's a difference I believe. What do you think? Yes that is how it should be. When the staff does something the player does not like they should send in a complaint in a nice respectful manner, instead of makinga thread raging as has been done in the past. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salamandra 1136 Share Posted December 3, 2012 I don't use TS anyhow, and I really don't mind that part :P I have good relations with very few staff members, and these people I have most likely RPed with before, or talked to in skype. I liked the proposed plan, and hope the staff follows through. The part of this plan I would like to see happen most is having the staff members RP with us more ^_^ I realize they are busy with many other things, including modreqs, but the only GMs I've actually seen RPing are Haelphon and Sir Wyvernos. I'd like to see moar! :3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebanamana 410 Share Posted December 3, 2012 I am cool with it. Just tell the staff to loosen up a bit, it is a game not a job and they should treat it like a hobby. Too many times I have seen people have a differing opinion from a staff member and be treated as if they were being aggressive and argumentative towards the Admin/GM something I think could be attributed to staff over-stressing what they are doing and feeling like they are being victimized/potentially victimized at every turn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redbaron™ 690 Share Posted December 3, 2012 if im being honest.. i dont like you mog, i dont like the way you RP'ed some things, i dont like the way you have treated some people, i dont like hwo you assumed command of both the orcs and the humans with very little IC promotion. all in all i think the server would be better off without your kind fo roleplay, becuase you have lead both of these groups who have a large population your brand of RP has spread ebcuase well, "follow the leader", i honeslty feel the server would be better off without you as an admin, as a GM even i think you should return to the role of a regular player. PS. i still respect some of the things you have done but i dont respect the way you have treated some people. ~Tailion Eh... there was lots of RP when he became the leader. I've never seen people inside of Oren complain about Mog because frankly he's a very nice person. I talk to him on TS, have conversations with him, all that. People just seem to like to hate on the biggest nation, in turn that usually falls on Mog. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 5'th Friar~ 29 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Hrm. I agree completely! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sultan 3953 Author Share Posted December 3, 2012 if im being honest.. i dont like you mog, i dont like the way you RP'ed some things, i dont like the way you have treated some people, i dont like hwo you assumed command of both the orcs and the humans with very little IC promotion. all in all i think the server would be better off without your kind fo roleplay, becuase you have lead both of these groups who have a large population your brand of RP has spread ebcuase well, "follow the leader", i honeslty feel the server would be better off without you as an admin, as a GM even i think you should return to the role of a regular player. PS. i still respect some of the things you have done but i dont respect the way you have treated some people. ~Tailion You have a right, to think or feel how you like about me, I well not force you to respect me or require you to do so. But I wish to correct you on the fact that I controlled both the Humans/Orcs with little rp, First off when I took over the Orcs I was not an Admin, second when I took over Renatus I never took over all the Humans, I did do weeks of Rp until all the nobles recognized my Claim to Rule over Renatus, and then I worked from there to rule all the Humans there was no instantly take over humans. Also I never controlled both nations at the same time when I became King of the Renatus I already had stepped down from being Rex. I do not know what are you basing your opinion off of because I am quite sure you were inactive at that time. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lym 849 Share Posted December 3, 2012 I don't believe staff should be forced to spend time in TS channels that they don't want to be in. You can open up a private text chat with them; use it. Staff members are basically the customer service center of LoTC. They may do not get money, but a customer service worker can't go "Nope, I am not going to talk to this guy because I am busy drinking coffee with my friends at work." This is a job, a job staff members volunteer for. Treat it as such. If you need a break, log off or mark yourself as afk/busy, maybe even put a tiny description into your name that says you are busy, whatever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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